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Psychogeography and Folk

GUEST,Suibhne Astray 24 Nov 10 - 11:41 AM
glueman 24 Nov 10 - 12:42 PM
raymond greenoaken 24 Nov 10 - 02:14 PM
glueman 24 Nov 10 - 02:20 PM
GUEST 24 Nov 10 - 02:30 PM
GUEST,glueman 10 Dec 10 - 10:49 AM
GUEST,glueman 10 Dec 10 - 10:53 AM
Art Thieme 10 Dec 10 - 03:17 PM
GUEST,glueman 10 Dec 10 - 05:42 PM
GUEST,parkeru 11 Dec 10 - 02:11 PM
GUEST,glueman 11 Dec 10 - 02:20 PM
GUEST,glueman 13 Dec 10 - 02:35 AM
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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 11:41 AM

Cross Post!


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: glueman
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 12:42 PM

The indoor water closet is a child of decadence. Hemorrhoids were virtually unknown until their advent, now some (ok, mine) resemble a suburban library. In fact I once had acquaintance with a girl whose father was a classics teacher who quite literally installed shelving in the bog to support his books.

A swift, Pliny-free visit into the psychogeographic realm of the back yard is sufficient for all but the most stubborn movement.


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: raymond greenoaken
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 02:14 PM

"We had a designated receptacle under the bed for such business."

Ah, you mean a gazzunda.

....

Indeed I do not. We called it a piss pot, pal. Other cultures may have had their own appelations, but we preferred our own picturesque demotic.

Incidentally, as I recall, our receptacle bore an azure crest of hippogriffs rampant surmounted by the legend: Ye Ancient Order of St George Gongfermour – a Tyneside branch of the Knights Templar famed for their pious devotion to the principles of domestic hygeine. This is why natives of Tyneside are known to this day as Geordies.

You can read more about this in Col. Killingworth-Jones' unpublished Popular Antiquities Of Northumbria, vol. 2, available for viewing at The Literary And Philosophical Society Of Newcastle Upon Tyne. (Speak the secret password "Pontifex" at the reception desk.)

I probably shouldn't be telling you this...


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: glueman
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 02:20 PM

It was always a 'jerry' in our house. Perhaps from the German helmet?


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 02:30 PM

In my Nans house there was only an outdoors loo, but there was a commode for great Nanna that used to fascinate me when small (ooh a furry chair with a secret toilet inside! probably no less brilliant in my mind than a car that was secretly a robot would have been) and I was even allowed to use the magical object when very small, but lost the right to do so once I'd grown out of being very little. I seem to recall feeling deprived of an interesting privilege. - cs


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 10:49 AM

The Cutting of the Holly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZSoRyffhpE

My records don't show who's performing. I'm happy to credit them if they tell me.


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 10:53 AM

bloomin' links holly


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: Art Thieme
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 03:17 PM

I thought this was a serious music thread i.e. my post above. Well, whatever.


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 05:42 PM

The thread went off stream for a while but the question was meant as a valid folk issue. Is there a sense of place beyond sentimentality and does it emerge in music and other art forms. Does the psychogeography of a valley for example, inform the artistic products of its inhabitants.

Perhaps the thread should have died and begun afresh in the future.


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: GUEST,parkeru
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 02:11 PM

I live near a mountain that has a town on top of it, and a town at the bottom of it. The sun rises first on top of the mountain, and the people there are sunnier, happier, and more helpful to each other. The people in the valley, where the sun shines less, are more suspicious of each other, and it's harder to make friends there. I know this because I had a job in each of those towns.


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 02:20 PM

That's interesting Parkeru. I live in a valley, though not at the bottom and when I told a work colleague where I was moving he said 'beware of valley-itis". I had to get him to explain and he said it's the condition of irritability and depression brought on by lack of daylight.

I was discussing this recently with a chap who was brought up in Todmorden, a steep sided mill town valley and he said there was one particular area of it that was deprived of light by the hillsides and tall mills to the extent that the sun never showed in the sky in winter and the children had a reputation for being withdrawn. I don't know how much was a local joke based on the topography and what was fact.


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Subject: RE: Psychogeography and Folk
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 02:35 AM

An excellent programme, 'Ventures and Adventures in Topography' has some interesting anecdotes about old ballad singers being moved out of pubs in the early C20th.

The Fringe of London


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