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BS: CV6 (Carrier USS Enterprise)

Louie Roy 15 Nov 10 - 10:59 AM
Little Hawk 15 Nov 10 - 11:10 PM
Louie Roy 16 Nov 10 - 11:12 AM
Little Hawk 16 Nov 10 - 03:55 PM
Louie Roy 16 Nov 10 - 04:12 PM
Little Hawk 16 Nov 10 - 04:18 PM
gnu 16 Nov 10 - 04:18 PM
GUEST,999 16 Nov 10 - 04:30 PM
McGrath of Harlow 16 Nov 10 - 05:08 PM
Little Hawk 16 Nov 10 - 05:37 PM
Louie Roy 16 Nov 10 - 08:02 PM
Little Hawk 17 Nov 10 - 01:11 AM
Jack the Sailor 17 Nov 10 - 10:30 AM
Louie Roy 17 Nov 10 - 10:54 AM
Little Hawk 17 Nov 10 - 11:02 AM
Louie Roy 17 Nov 10 - 11:28 AM
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Subject: BS: CV6
From: Louie Roy
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 10:59 AM

Are there any USS Enterprise CV6 crew Mudcatters or does anyone know of any? I know there isn't to many alive due to the fact the ship was moth balled in 1946 or 1947 and then scrapped


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 11:10 PM

Wow! What a great subject. I knew the moment I saw "CV6" that it had to be a thread about the Enterprise, the most decorated aircraft carrier of the war. Only the Enterprise and the Saratoga survived out of the big 6 carriers the USA had when the war began. That ship should never have been scrapped, but should have been preserved, and never mind the cost.

The Japanese battleship Nagato and the German cruiser Prinz Eugen should also have been preserved, but there was never any chance of that happening. Ships on the losing side do not get preserved after a war. On the British side, they should have preserved the battleship Warspite. Alas, they are all gone.


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Louie Roy
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 11:12 AM

Little Hak I agree with everything you said the Enterprise should have been made a memorial and no one will evr know how many crew members of the big "E" cried when the idiots in WDC scrapped her


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 03:55 PM

I surely would have wept if I'd served on her...or been on the many other brave ships that served beside her and had their bacon saved by the "Big E".

* Doolittle Raid
* Midway
* Eastern Solomons
* Santa Cruz
* Phillipine Sea
* Leyte Gulf
* Iwo Jima
* Okinawa


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Louie Roy
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 04:12 PM

Little Hawk what the american public doesn't know but the entire Pacific Naval battles fought the Enterprise was in 21 of them out of 22 and the only one she missed was when she escorted the USS Hornet with Doolittle and his B-25 bomber squadron on it bombing raid on Tokio in April 1942 a very risky mission with a bunch of very dedicated USS Army Air Corp pilots whish even today I give a silent salute for their bravery and on that day when I saw them launched I said a farwell prayer for I'd bet the farm none of them would survive


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 04:18 PM

That was one hell of a risky mission. I take it that that escort mission for the Hornet on the Doolittle raid was what caused the Enterprise and Hornet not to be available in time for Coral Sea? Is that correct?


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: gnu
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 04:18 PM

Gosh... interesting history.


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 04:30 PM

Timeline results for uss enterprise

Google the above as is. Good site about the old gal.


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 05:08 PM

That where Star Trek took the name?


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 05:37 PM

Yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Louie Roy
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 08:02 PM

Littlle Hawk in regards to your question yes it was damn scarry due to the fact we were suppose to get within 250 miles of Tokio and then launch Doolittle but we ran into a group of fishing vessels when we still 500 miles away from Tokio and we had no choice but to sink them and ask Doolittle what he wanted to do and he and his crew all said launch aircraft which we did and ran like hell in the other direction and that why I said I didn't think any of them would survive and yes Little Hawk that's why we were not in the battle of the Coral Sea


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 01:11 AM

Hmm. Well, it was certainly good luck for the Zuikaku and the Shokaku that you didn't make it to Coral Sea. They'd have been outnumbered.... 4 large American carriers against only 2 large Japanese carriers and a really small one (the Shoho, which got sunk anyway by the Devastator torpedo bombers). I doubt it would have gone well for the 2 big Japanese carriers if the Enterprise and Hornet had also been there. As it was, the Japanese carriers managed to sink the Lexington, damage the Yorktown fairly badly, and both survive themselves (although Shokaku also took fairly heavy bomb damage from the SBDs).

Coral Sea was history's first carrier vs carrier battle...a big learning experience for both sides...and the first sea battle where the ships on opposing sides never saw each other at all, since the airplanes did all the attacking.

I gather you were serving on the Hornet, Louie Roy? That was another great ship with a fine fighting record. Too bad her luck ran out at Santa Cruz (fighting the tenacious Shokaku and Zuikaku yet again). Were you onboard for the Hornet's last battle?


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 10:30 AM

>>>That where Star Trek took the name? <<

Not entirely Enterprise is a venerated name in the US and Royal Navies and in commercial sailing. A number of ships have carried that name. Note that when Star Trek was conceived The USS Enterprise CVN 65 was the mightiest and most technologically advanced ship in the world.

# HMS Enterprise, any of fifteen ships of the British Royal Navy (four others did not use the HMS prefix)
# USS Enterprise any of several ships of the United States Navy.
# Enterprise (1776), a ship of the Continental Navy during the American Revolution
Enterprize (1829), Melbourne's tall ship
# ‎Enterprise (1855)‎, a 19th century steamer on the Columbia and Fraser Rivers
# Enterprise (1862), pioneer stern wheeler on the upper Fraser River
# Enterprise, a sailing ship caught in a storm off St. Ives, Cornwall in 1903


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Louie Roy
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 10:54 AM

No Little Hawk I was a proud Big "E" CV6 Sailor


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 11:02 AM

Well, it sort of gives me chills to talk to you, Louie, because I've been studying the history of those ships and the planes that flew off them pretty well all my life. You must be about my Dad's age...he drove an M5A1 tank in Europe from Normandy to the end of the war. Congratulations for serving on the mighty Enterprise. She'll never be forgotten.


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Louie Roy
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 11:28 AM

Thanks Little Hawk for your kind words and the only reason I started this thread was maybe one of the mudcatter would maybe know someone who served on the Big "E" and I could contact them for I know there are not to many of us left


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 11:29 AM

What did you do on the ship Louie?


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Subject: RE: BS: CV6
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 11:33 AM

http://www.cv6.org/company/register.htm

http://www.cv6.org/site/association.htm

You probaly have these, but others might not.


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