mudcat.org: BS: Language Pet Peeves
Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe

Post to this Thread - Printer Friendly - Home
Page: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]


BS: Language Pet Peeves

John MacKenzie 06 Oct 10 - 04:18 AM
MGM∑Lion 06 Oct 10 - 02:50 AM
Ed T 05 Oct 10 - 08:07 PM
Bill D 05 Oct 10 - 06:53 PM
Wesley S 05 Oct 10 - 06:48 PM
Steve Shaw 05 Oct 10 - 06:26 PM
Bill D 05 Oct 10 - 05:19 PM
Anne Lister 05 Oct 10 - 05:04 PM
Bill D 05 Oct 10 - 05:04 PM
John MacKenzie 05 Oct 10 - 04:53 PM
GUEST,Songbob 05 Oct 10 - 04:34 PM
GUEST,DŠithŪ 05 Oct 10 - 09:19 AM
GUEST,Patsy 05 Oct 10 - 08:10 AM
Steve Shaw 05 Oct 10 - 08:00 AM
MGM∑Lion 05 Oct 10 - 07:50 AM
Steve Shaw 05 Oct 10 - 06:42 AM
MGM∑Lion 05 Oct 10 - 04:04 AM
GUEST,Songbob 05 Oct 10 - 12:56 AM
Ed T 05 Oct 10 - 12:30 AM
Sandy Mc Lean 04 Oct 10 - 11:26 PM
Uncle_DaveO 04 Oct 10 - 07:59 PM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 07:18 PM
GUEST,Bert 04 Oct 10 - 06:49 PM
artbrooks 04 Oct 10 - 06:10 PM
Liz the Squeak 04 Oct 10 - 05:58 PM
Joe_F 04 Oct 10 - 05:40 PM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 05:18 PM
Bill D 04 Oct 10 - 04:43 PM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 01:57 PM
McGrath of Harlow 04 Oct 10 - 01:44 PM
Howard Jones 04 Oct 10 - 01:43 PM
s&r 04 Oct 10 - 01:38 PM
Penny S. 04 Oct 10 - 01:34 PM
McGrath of Harlow 04 Oct 10 - 01:28 PM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:52 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:46 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:42 AM
MGM∑Lion 04 Oct 10 - 11:41 AM
Manitas_at_home 04 Oct 10 - 11:39 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:35 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:29 AM
Richard Bridge 04 Oct 10 - 11:29 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:28 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:26 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:18 AM
Steve Shaw 04 Oct 10 - 11:13 AM
GUEST,leeneia 04 Oct 10 - 11:11 AM
GUEST,CrazyEddie 04 Oct 10 - 10:51 AM
s&r 04 Oct 10 - 10:45 AM
Penny S. 04 Oct 10 - 10:36 AM
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:






Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 04:18 AM

The cafť across the way from me, has paninis on the menu !!!!

Man went to see his doctor. He said, "Doctor, I've got a 'orrible 'eadache"
The doctor said, "I suggest you take a couple of aspirates"


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: MGM∑Lion
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 02:50 AM

The use of "anyone?" ~~ as in, "Let's have a thread about language. Pet-peeves, anyone?"

~Michael~


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 08:07 PM

Stores that advertise fresh products....only to find they were "previously frozen", or "freshened", whatever that means. Fresh does not mean anything anymore?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 06:53 PM

affect & effect....if you do not know the difference, please look it up. Like insure & ensure,it is NOT irrelevant.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Wesley S
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 06:48 PM

Any establishment that offers "homemade" food. Unless the person who made the apple pie lives there it's not "homemade".


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 06:26 PM

Gosh yes, beg the question. Awful. Unfortunately, the sense in which it is now commonly used, to raise the question (why can't people just say that!), is so prevalent that it is now recognised as acceptable by certain authorities. Degradation rules OK...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 05:19 PM

and.... it's **wreak havoc, not 'wreck' havoc.......arrrggghhhhh

(you want fun? Ask folks to provide the present tense of 'wrought'.
The are 2, depending on whether it's about God or material ...(wrought iron)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Anne Lister
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 05:04 PM

I'm another wincer every time someone confuses few and less ... but the other irritant, which has me reaching for something to throw at the radio (which tends to be where I hear it most) is the phrase "mitigate against". Must be confusion with "militate against" but it makes no sense at all.
Oh, and the almost universal misuse of the phrase "beg the question".


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 05:04 PM

Both my 'on-the-fly' spell checker and the one in my Opera browser allow ME to add words to their list, so I don't get 'beeped' at when I decide to type thru instead of through.

As to UK spelling vs. American...we in the colonies are fairly thrifty, and so many of our spellings are shorter....(leaving out that 'u' must save...oh...tons (not tonnes)..of printing ink and megabytes of HD space every year...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 04:53 PM

I hate the phrase
ONE HUNDRED!"!!!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: GUEST,Songbob
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 04:34 PM

If I'm not mistaken, some software packages allow the user to choose 'British English' vs. 'American English' for their documents. But what I haven't seen so far is an Operating System with the same choices. Perhaps those choices are there when you install the damned thing, I don't know. In any case, you could type 'colour' in Word and have it right, but in a chat room (or on the Mudcat, for that matter) it gets flagged as incorrect.

Someone needs to invent a universal "universe setting," that applies language rules to all the content, no matter the source. Now that would be handy!

Bob


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: GUEST,DŠithŪ
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 09:19 AM

My current pet hate...

refute when they mean deny... and from journalists, usually1
D


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 08:10 AM

Any automated telephone message especially the 'your call is important to us' aaaah!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 08:00 AM

It wasn't directed at anyone. Just something I've occasionally mused over for some time.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: MGM∑Lion
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 07:50 AM

Steve ~~ If that was addressed to me or Sandy McLean, one of whose points I was developing, I would point out that neither of us was in any way 'berating' the American system; merely querying the logic of spellchecks which mark our own spelling [which I am sure you will agree at least remains a viable option] as incorrectly spelt when we have opted for the UnionJack rather than the OldGlory logo in the computer toolbar. That seems to be a piece of poor programing at  HQ to me! And an implied beratement on THEIR part of OUR perfectly acceptable system.

~Michael~


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 06:42 AM

I tend not to defend many things American, but I have to speak up for American spelling. English may well have started here in England but many more non-English than English people speak English these days and a big majority use American-English spellings. It's typically quirky (and very honourable) of the Brits to hang on for dear life to their own way of spelling, but it's a bit Canute-like to berate the Yanks for their system, which (I hate to say) is often more logical than ours. But who wants logic to enter into it!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: MGM∑Lion
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 04:04 AM

"....in the USA they intentionally spell words such as labour, harbour, honour, etc. incorrectly by dropping the silent "U". That is their right, I suppose, and I have no objection to that. What does piss me off though is when computer spell-checkers keep underlining these words when I spell them correctly!...."

Agreed, Sandy ~ tho your 'incorrectly' might be queried as a bit if a relativist term here?. And WHY does it do so when one has opted for the UK setting in the computer toolbar-menu? I mean, what is the use of having this option if it doesn't recognise this distinction?

This refers to the  system; is it the same with other computers? And, for info, the word 'recognise' in the last line of previous para has acquired a red line because I didn't type 'recognize' ~~ which I categorically decline to do, Mr Macintosh!}

~Michael~


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: GUEST,Songbob
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 12:56 AM

To illustrate a few of my pet peeves in spelling, may I say:

I would of told you that some folks are just loosers,
And the Internets filled with poor English users,
But noone ever said its easy
To express yourself as non-cheesy,
Without you become a language abuser.

Yeah, I know it's not much, but it's off the top of my head, so I couldn't be exhaustive in the listing.

Bob


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 12:30 AM

asHphalt, pronounced that way.
Presently, when currently is meant.
I should have went,when gone is meant.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:26 PM

As my frequent posts will show spelling is not a strong point of mine. That being said in the USA they intentionally spell words such as labour, harbour, honour, etc. incorrectly by dropping the silent "U". That is their right, I suppose, and I have no objection to that. What does piss me off though is when computer spell-checkers keep underlining these words when I spell them correctly! That's my rant on this! :-}


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 07:59 PM

"Half a pee"???

Man, you gotta see a doctor about that prostate!

Dave Oesterreich


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 07:18 PM

Yeah Joe. "Existential": is it the most pretentious word of all? Or should we vote instead for "paradigm shift?"

"A city destroyed by an earthquake is devastated."

Indeed. But it is certainly not "razed to the ground" (or, even worse, "raised to the ground").


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: GUEST,Bert
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 06:49 PM

'Decimalization' when they really mean centigesamalization (or however you spell it).

There IS no unit between the pound and the new penny. The term florin is obsolete.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: artbrooks
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 06:10 PM

'Decimate'. It means "reduce by ten percent". It is not a synonym for devastate. An army that has 10 soldiers in every hundred killed has been decimated. A city destroyed by an earthquake is devastated.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 05:58 PM

Hiccups rather than hiccoughs.

People who say 'I don't want to be rude/offend you/single you out but... because it always means they are about to be very rude, or offensive or pick on you for something. If you don't want to do it, don't do it!

LTS


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Joe_F
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 05:40 PM

All the following, not in themselves, but in their currently fashionable senses, which perhaps need not be specified: abuse, agenda, contradiction, define, denial, disorder, dysfunctional, excellence, existential, featured, feel, foundation, genocide, icon, identity, impact, incredible, international, issue, legacy, legendary, multicultural, narcissism, personality, potential, price tag, quality, reinvent, relatively, resolve, showcase, signature, total, who.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 05:18 PM

A few years ago I heard a Beeb weathher forecaster on the telly say that at least the overnight rain had washed the humidity out of the air.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 04:43 PM

'cop-speak'..."At this point in time the inebriated individual exited the vehicle"
I wonder if that is taught in police training?

(And I HEARD an announcer say on the radio, "This program was pre-recorded earlier.")


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 01:57 PM

Half a pee


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 01:44 PM

Pronounced the same way whichever spelling you prefer.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Howard Jones
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 01:43 PM

I am prepared to defend the use of "pee" for pence. It evolved quite spontaneously on decimalisation, when it became necessary to distinguish between "New Pence" (as they were then known) and the old penny, not just on paper but in speech. "One penny" was ambiguous, "one New Penny" a bit of a mouthful, so it became "one pee".

If "pence" was said in full, it was emphasised to make it clear it meant New Pence, whereas pre-decimal the emphasis was on the amount. So we lost the old contractions: "tuppence" (emphasis on the first syllable) signified 2d whereas "two pence" (with either equal emphasis or slightly more on "pence") meant 2p. Same with "thruppence". The "ha'penny" (1/2d) became "half-p"

Of course, in time people became used to the new coinage and there was less chance of confusion, but by then these usages had become established.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: s&r
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 01:38 PM

Pronounced as jail in my dictionary Kevin

Stu


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Penny S.
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 01:34 PM

"With respect", "With all due respect," "With the greatest respect," etc. You know that what follows is totally without it.

Penny


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 01:28 PM

"...'goal' spelling of 'jail' " (Foolestroupe - 03 Oct 10 - 06:27).

- the word is gaol. Pronounced the way it is spelled.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:52 AM

"One pence"

~Michael~

"One pee."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:46 AM

"Burn?" I meant "blow up."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:42 AM

I was only going from what Richard said. Do they burn hospitals in London, Canada?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: MGM∑Lion
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:41 AM

"Avoid like the plague"? perhaps...

~M~


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:39 AM

Unfortunately, Steve Wikipedia has:

London is a city in Southwestern Ontario, Canada along the Quebec City Ė Windsor Corridor with a metropolitan area population of 457,720; the city proper had a population of 352,395 in the 2006 Canadian census. The estimated metro population in 2009 was 489,274.[2] It was named after the city of London in England.[3] London is the seat of Middlesex County, at the forks of the non-navigable Thames River, approximately halfway between Toronto, Ontario and Detroit, Michigan. The City of London is a separated municipality, politically separate from Middlesex County, though it remains the official county seat.


Confused? You will be!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:35 AM

"I'm sure there's a London in Canada."

Without wishing to sound imperialist, "London" on its own, to all sane people (except perhaps for those living in the vicinity of London, Canada), means London on the banks of the Thames. A qualifier would be needed for the Canadian one for most people who don't live in Canada, and even for some who do. Let common sense prevail.

"And "albeit" is a perfectly proper word."

In every circumstance it can be replaced by although, though or but. It is just pretentious. Literate people avoid it like the plague, as with clichťs.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:29 AM

pre-order


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:29 AM

I'm sure there's a London in Canada. And "albeit" is a perfectly proper word.

But people who say "Can I" when they mean "May I" are bad for my blood pressure.

And so are people who say "literally" when they mean the opposite.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:28 AM

liase


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:26 AM

One of the commonest modern horrors is saying "prior to" when you simply mean "before."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:18 AM

I lied. Do not say "albeit" within my earshot. And, yanks, there is no need whatever to say "London, England."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:13 AM

I have to say that, at this particular moment in time, I can't think of any particular peeve's.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:11 AM

Here are four expressions which deserve pet-peevehood. They are from a recent thread, but bear repeating.
========
picking his brains (what an ugly image)

diddley or diddley squat (Just act yourself what it really means.)

verbal diarrhea (I'm eating!)

anal, or anal retentive (meaning merely "More particular than I")


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 10:51 AM

Patsy's "Can I be frank?" brings to mind a Goons' sequence

Gridpype Thynne: "I'll I be Frank?"

Moriarty: "Yes, I'll be Gladys"

(Sound of Thynne slapping Moriaty across the face)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: s&r
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 10:45 AM

A Hostelry every time. The omission of the 'h' sound is a bizarre hangover from court pronunciation when French was the language of the court. Kestionnaire and onvelope are similar.

Stu


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Language Pet Peeves
From: Penny S.
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 10:36 AM

Putting "Without Prejudice" at the head of an offensive document intended to damage someone else. Only known one usage of it, and I don't know the correct meaning of the phrase.

Using the term "goodwill payment" of a payment from a debtor designed to cover a portion of expenditure by the group he was in debt to.

Same misuser of language in each case, and one who wouldn't, indeed didn't, recognise real goodwill when it was offered.

Penny


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
Next Page

 


You must be a member to post in non-music threads. Join here.


You must be a member to post in non-music threads. Join here.



Mudcat time: 16 July 5:48 PM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Cafť Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.