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frogprince 30 Sep 10 - 02:04 PM
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GUEST,Patsy 28 Sep 10 - 04:38 AM
wysiwyg 27 Sep 10 - 10:53 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: frogprince
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 02:04 PM

I had no hat, and I complained,
until I met a man who had no head.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 12:27 PM

There was a span of poverty when I found a dead man's pair of shoes and was happy to wear them.
I turned the incident into a blue's song.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 10:05 AM

When the odd inheritance comes through we're not poor - certainly clears the overdraft!!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: GUEST,guest : expoorboy
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 08:03 AM

This link provides a moving reminder that there are always those worse off than ourselves.

youtube.com/watch?v=UDL1m-3je2s&feature=player_embedded

Fred


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 03:38 AM

We were so poor our cat used to steal next doors mice.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 05:12 PM

An issue of low income eating the clock, here, is the inordinate time it takes to set up the monthly pill sorter of meds I take, with sometimes dangerous results. Now, I have to go to a weekly sorter due to meds changes the doc wants me to "try." And he's a great doc, making small incremental changes thoughtfully-- I'm so lucky to at least have HIM.

The sorters are fiulled from:

<> An XL ziploc (small spacebag) containing the current 90-day-by-mail scrip-meds we cannot afford (after the benefits pay a fraction of their cost)-- of course generics for the most part;

<> A gallon Ziploc of scrip-meds we take SOMEtimes, including unexpired antibiotics on hand in case a weekend infection springs up and the doc who returns our phone call names one we could take until the "local" (LOL) $5 pharmacy opens;

<> Another gallon Ziploc of over-the-counter stuff we must have when we travel, sometimes for 3-4 weeks at a time; of course these are all bought-only-on-sale, industrial size containers.


From these I serve as my own dispensing lay-pharmacist. In a good week I find time to set it up before it's time to go to bed-- and take the night's dose.

OTOH it's late at night I am most alert for the job.... some of the meds affect my ability to think clearly, especially the last med added for twice-daily use that the doc has not doubled the strength for.

The pill sorters have been full of errors for weeks since I started that newest one, and now I am supposed to re-sort it all into a new timing pattern.


Because we get our scrips by mail, I doubt the very nice pharmacist at the local $5 shop would like to do my pill sorters FOR me-- they can if they are the supplier, I guess. The pricing is a crapshoot between "local" and mail-order; my schedule does not always allow me to get "local" refills when needed, while the mail-order can be done online.



I'm taking all these bags out of the fridge and to my next appt so the doc's staff can set them up for me or at least "proofread" the ones I'll set up there!

And this is not an over-prescribing doc-- but between scrip meds and OTC/supplements, it's 11-14 pills a night plus another 4 or 5 each AM-- I forget now, since it's all changing.


???

But no matter how elegantly I sort out the confusion, it will eat the clock weekly to deal with it, and I am certainly not trained to do it or sharp enough that I SHOULD be. The more complicated it gets, the more make-dumb stuff I have to take. And the less ability I have to deal with it-- something's not right THERE.

!!!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: kendall
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 07:47 AM

We were so poor we had to make the dog vomit to feed the cat.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 03:51 PM

Well my Daddy worked his way up from absoutely nothin'. Like he was stealing apples off the apple truck during the depression to stay alive.

I was born in Alexandria Va after my dad had worked his way up to home ownership by building a house out of scrap lumber. He had a bunch of hunting dogs and liked to hunt rabbits up around Winchester.

We lived just over the Alexandria city line on Edsall road in FF county. We would go buck swimming in the creek down by the railroad tracks. We had apple trees, grew corn, veggies and grapes and made our own wine.

I remember the time me and my mom went to the dump and picked up a bunch of bicycles. We took them home and made bikes for me and my brother from the parts.

Not very exciting but we had food and the basic stuff we needed to get by. I saw a plane skywriting "buy a Muntz TV" in the sky and wondered what a TV was.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 04:38 AM

I had a friend that replaced three piece suites every two years or so when she got fed up with it and because she was so house-proud. It was ridiculous, she made such a fuss, no-one was allowed to sit on it unless it was covered in polythene so we would be there rustling and squeaking around while nervously drinking tea for fear of spilling it! Myself I was happy to buy secondhand ones which were mostly perfectly alright and with a young family I couldn't see the point in spending all that money and worrying about the wear and tear of a brand new one when there were more important things to think about.

Talking about buckets when I was 10 and visiting my grown-up married cousin they were just starting out and not too well off he only had an out building and bucket in their first home in a creepy middle of nowhere and he had the job of chaperoning me outside with flashlight. His wife also assigned him the job of getting rid of it, it was scary and freezing as well as embarrasing! It made me move though.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 10:53 AM

I think a positive legacy from being (raised) poor is gratitude. I have been and am poor enough to gratefully appreciate not one but THREE pee buckets (one is always in vinegar-soak-mode to remove crystal build-up)-- so much better than other alternatives when the plumbing's not available.

I'm grateful to be able to use one with no embarrassment or shame when it's needful!

SURE I prefer total plumbing facilities, but it's all the same stuff going down the same drain, and I'm just grateful to have the roof over our heads (and a drain down below).

We're surrounded by people who don't have the roof and drain, and by people who think they "could never use a pee bucket."

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 08:35 AM

We were so poor, we used to think knives and forks were jewellery'

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 05:06 PM

Don't think I need a spare washer... we have quite a large-capacity one. Not that likely to get enough business to run a second one..... someone mentioned that oil workers' clothes get a stench but the gas workers don't seem to have that problem. Just dirt.

I want to put existing resources to work for us, not add more stuff.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: mg
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 04:26 PM

I think that is a very good idea, especially since you mentioned gas workers nearby..especially if you could arrange for a separate washer since it sounds like you have a lot of space...mg


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 02:39 PM

Thinkin' about taking in laundry here-- fluff and fold service. I don't think anyone else is doing it, we have free water, and I'm one of those sickos that likes to do laundry-- especially if I do not have to actually put the clean batch away.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: paula t
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 07:31 PM

Hi MikeL2,

I remember the aroma of meat and potato pie wafting through the house. No-one made it quite like my grandma. My mum's was gorgeous, but she always admitted that Grandma's (My dad's mum) was best . She was expert at making fantastic food from the simplest of ingredients. I remember that she would soak marrowfat peas overnight and then roast them in the oven with breast of lamb. She then made it all into a rich gravy which we would soak up with bread.The lamb was mainly fat - but it was crispy and tasted heavenly. My arteries are groaning at the thought!I probably wouldn't be able to eat it nowadays. We don't eat so much fat nowadays do we?

I also remember her jam roly poly and oven baked rice pudding. I always managed to scrounge the skin!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 05:52 PM

I have no problem with disposing of things that are truly well used and worn out. I have a big problem with those who toss something away because something "better" has come along -- "better" in sense that it's bright and shiny, not because it's more efficient or better engineered, but just because it no longer fits in their own perception of themselves.

The landline phone on my desk was purchased new sometime in the 1980s; it works far better than the much newer one it replaced. My cell (mobile) phone doesn't take pictures (it could do texting and websurfing if I wanted to, but that seems silly), but it does okay to call people with.

Things which we have no further use for we give to someplace like Goodwill Industries, St. Vincent de Paul, or the Salvation Army so that others can use them. Only things that are truly over their useful life end up in a landfill, and some of them are actually recycled instead (do you know how much gold and rare earth elements can be recovered from a "dead" computer?).


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Slag
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 05:43 PM

Bonzo3feet (I hope). So, if'n ya bot yer machine back when we was all doing a little better (and if it's still working) and yer outta a job, it's about the cheapest form of entertainment around and some clever folks have even found a way to make money with the darn things! I haven't, alas, except, you know, with the printer and all....


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 12:49 PM

My wasteful neighbour binned a blue kettle, toaster and blender all because she changed the colour scheme in her kitchen. Madness.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 11:40 AM

Very few of the items in our house were bought brand new except for a few of my shop tools and some appliances ...and some of the smaller of those were acquired at thrift shops. I have a host of excellent things either bought for a pittance at yard sales or picked from curbs just before the trash collectors came by. I have repaired a very nice office chair that was thrown out because of a loose caster. $3 and a screwdriver and a drill bit fixed it.

I suppose I understand why those who can afford it simply but new stuff and discard the old, but I can't understand why more communities don't have a central 'yard' where 'almost' good stuff can be dropped off and given away free, or for a small fee to support the operation. Landfills are a stupid place for perfectly usable stuff.....but I suppose Walmart wouldn't agree.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 11:17 AM

Yes.... think about the opposite extreme though:

A rug I bought at least 15 years ago that has appeared in multiple (doggy) locations, that was $15 new, should not be re-used NOW no matter how tempted I am. I can tell it used to be in the loo because of the way it's cut-- I recognize that closet shape there... I have another old one with the same cutout, now full of dog pee-- out on a porch awaiting an eventual re-use (Ah-HAH! In the kennel!)

I just rolled that first one into a trash bag-- under it was a year's worth of ground-off backing, not nasty dust. No backing left on it, this year. Memories... after our 2000 housefire it backed a door for awhile, to insulate it.

I put ANOTHER 15 year old rug down in its place-- it's not even a rug. It's a narrow scrap of cheap nylon plush, with a still-partially-rubber backing, from a bathroom "carpet" I put in.... 15 years ago.... which scrap has also appeared in multiple locations. But it will keep my feet warm as I cross the cold slate floor to get to the washer/drier, in front of which is another ancient (thick, cushy) rug-scrap I dragged home from the church's annual rummage sale, oh, 7-8 years ago.

Tom Petty says "you don't have to live like a refugee...."

Sure-- if you want to live in a tiny house I guess...

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 10:35 AM

Yes, and how many use the computers in the local library or post from whatever job they have? Our computers here at home date back to before I retired -- one was purchased in 2000 and it still works okay. My car is 11 years (chronological, not model) years old and still gets about 35 mpg on the highway and around 28 in town.

You SHOULD build on the past so that you have something in the future. The "throw-away" society idea should be buried with a stake through its black heart.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 09:59 AM

The cycle Jean describes upthread is a familiar one, and widespread.

The potential "fall from wealth" is part of the "warning" to folks not to rock society's boat; and without regular falls the warning is no good.

So what we end up with societally is a whole lotta po' folks not able to fit in with other po' folks and a few *ricos* whose familial wealth is quite recent, and who don't fit in well with either po' folks or old *money.* And folks with all that going on seldom talk to each other about the issues because there is little shared experience/language, at least verbally.


Here at Mudcat we have the luxury (thanks to Max) of being able to interact across those differences, and even get together in person from time to time to sing together.


My eyes were opened one night (cartoon-popping outta the head). A couple who visit here periodically insisted one time too often (for my comfort level) on picking up a dinner check. I had wanted to cook for them to repay the LAST check they picked up, but no.... and to set me at ease they explained about the boatload of cash they actually had, so I would not worry.... and then I realized retroactively how gracious they had really been, before, to visit here and never let on that they could be much more comfortable at a local hotel, but were choosing to sleep here because... they just liked US.

[shaking head]

The things we never know if we don't ask!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 08:20 AM

Money is always going to be an issue no matter with any decisions we make in life.

The generation that lived during the war knew about budgeting, money was tight, there was rationing food,clothes etc, and these people brought their children up with respect and good morals.

I dread to think who will look after me as I become older, because there are more children these days growing up with lack of respect of the older generation.

As a child I remember looking forward to Christmas or my birthday, getting a small gift or new clothes. My mother saved for everything, even our secondhand suite and kitchen table. Nobody waits or saves for anything these days. They closed down the pawn shops and introduced credit cards.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 07:47 AM

But you can all afford computer(s) and the time to sit in front it!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: kendall
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 07:31 AM

I wasn't born in a log cabin, but Father moved us into one as soon as he could afford it.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: LadyJean
Date: 25 Sep 10 - 12:49 AM

I "Came from money". My father was an attorney as were my grandfathers. I went to private school, spent time at country clubs. The only thing I miss from the country club is the Fouth of July buffet and fireworks. (I pigged out on coconut snowballs!)

It was never my sort of life. But I've had to put up with a sort of bass ackward snobbery all my adult life, because I'm not "plain folks".

I clean houses for a living. One of the ladies I work for is playing games. I've been through it before. Somebody isn't happy with her job or her marriage and takes it out on me. Since money's tight, I have to put up with the games.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 24 Sep 10 - 05:39 AM

The Queen has been refused an anti-poverty grant to help heat her palaces because Whitehall officials feared it would cause a public relations backlash.

The cost of royal utilities, which doubled in 2004, stood at £1m a year and had become "untenable" and that the £15m Government grant to maintain the Queen's palaces was inadequate.

The request for a grant to replace four combined heat and power (CHP) units at Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle was turned down according to documents obtained by The Independent under the Freedom of Information Act.

It was explained that the handouts were aimed at schools, hospitals, councils and housing associations for heating programmes which benefit low-income families.

There was concern that if Buckingham Palace was given money from the fund it would lead to "probable adverse press coverage".


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 24 Sep 10 - 04:03 AM

The recession has meant that everyone has had to tighten their belts with the general running of a home with regard to shopping and uneccessary spending, which in around about way has made me change my whole way of thinking by making food go further and discouraging waste and using up everything. There was a program highlighting the appalling waste of useable food a little while back vegetables and fruits that would normally have been thrown out in markets etc. and it was prepared and cooked up in dishes in a restaurant and the view was that it was perfectly fine, which could be used to feed many people.

Thinking poor has completely changed my way of thinking about waste. Thank goodness for the one-pot meals!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 09:23 PM

DO NOT read Rap's post THIS way if you're holding a drink of ANY sort:

"Well, for most of my growing up we used paper kids...."

THAT's PORE!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Dharmabum
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 08:35 PM

Sears catalog.
Always go for the index first.
Pages are softer.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 07:48 PM

Well, for most of my growing up we used the paper kids at school tore out of their Big Chief tablets and threw away. See, first we had something to read, and some of those notes were pretty juicy. Then, we'd cut the paper into quarters. When we needed to do the paperwork after the job, so to speak, we'd fold those quarters into quarters and tear off the little corner which wasn't loose. We'd put that aside, open the paper out, and insert a finger into the resulting hole. We'd do the paperwork and then neatly fold the paper around out finger and wipe that off. Then we'd use the little folded-up triangle to clean our nails.

But the really poor folks didn't even have that. I won't go into how they did the necessary.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 07:24 PM

(((Ron)))

Hey bro we grabbed water the other day, cabin looked fine.

Let's hook up!

~S&G~


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Dharmabum
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 05:14 PM

I was feeling fairly well off yesterday,Seein'as it was my 57th
b-day & all.
Then, I went to the dentist to see how much it would cost to replace the bridge that had broke loose from my lower right, a couple months ago.

$4000.00! That's right,FOUR GRAND,out of pocket.
And that's with insurance!

Made me feel kinda poor again.

Guess I'll just have to make do with the choppers that're left.
Needless to say,I'll be chewin' my pork n' bean ommelette on the left side for quite awhile yet.

Maybe I'll go whittle me a new set of teeth in the 'ol woodshop tonight.

DB.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 04:08 PM

Slag....I have a Canon AE-1 from 1984 that I love dearly and won't part with no matter where the digital revolution goes! I still use it on occasion, it's fun and while digital is far more economical, there's nothing like the feel of an old SLR in your hands, the sound it makes....*sigh* I'm with you.....absolutely!

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Amos
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 04:07 PM

I've been so poor I got my smokes from the bus stop, and I've slept under bushes for want of anything better, but I kinda outgrew that mode about 50 years back and went to work and found someone who could talk me into fiscal managent, thank Gawd.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Slag
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 03:37 PM

That's just pathetic Seamus!

Lily and Rap, yep! I still have a problem of letting go of things in this "throw away" society of ours. I always look for quality ( a vanishing commodity) and durability. Fer instance, back in '84 I came into a litle money and splurged on a Minolta SLR camera. I still have it but did not foresee the digital camera revolution, alas. The digital is mor economic by far and the results are foten better than I can do with the film camera. So what do I do with it?

Rap, if that TP is two-ply you are in luck! Two for the price of one. And then if you quarter it and use both sides that's 16 days of regularity you can enjoy!

Art, was that a convertible sans top?


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 03:08 PM

We're so poor we have to sublet at least two rooms in this house as soon as we can, to afford medical care-- our part of the med cost after insurance-- and WE NEED IT NOW, 'nuff said.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 02:54 PM

Our school district was so poor we had to use the same car for Drivers Ed. and Sex Education.

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 10:50 AM

NO, Rap, the teens were left to sprout the wooden coop.

:~)

We repaid the chix for helping and ate them too.

And bunnies.....

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 10:46 AM

...hat's why we raised chickens while the teens were growth-spurting, in a coop (huge shed) we and they constructed out of wood salvaged off the property's scrap heap

I first read this that the teens and chickens were made of salvaged wood. Now THAT would be poor! (I'm glad you had chickens to help, though.)


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 09:56 AM

LOL-- another frequent meal here I had no idea had a name other than "omelette fillings" or "frittata ingredients" (if I have the eggs).

In fact I had already planned to have it for lunch, having boiled greens and a tater left over from the last few days' "why not fix this" meals.

Bubble & Squeak is greatly improved by breaking an egg over top of the hot stuff still in the pan on the heat-- that's why we raised chickens while the teens were growth-spurting, in a coop (huge shed) we and they constructed out of wood salvaged off the property's scrap heap. An old wooden silo made great framing! Must be why the landlord (farmer) loves us so-- we do what he does, and what his parents did when he was little.

BTW, "general public," just because I have a wedge of dried up Brie in the fridge doesn't mean we're "los ricos"-- it means someone GAVE us some Brie I've not used up yet because you never know when it might be JUST the thing to "make" a B&S meal!

To have a name for it now-- thank you, England!

===

"Somos Ricos" is the frequently used expression murmured in situations such as when there is an extra nickel in the van's change cup permitting the purchase of a dollar burger. 50% irony and 50% gratitude. Our Bishop grew up that way too, and i think that is at the heart of the "simpatico" there.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 04:32 AM

My mum was no Fanny Craddock either and Monday night was 'Bubble & Squeak' night, which was the left over greens potato etc. from Sunday's meal mashed all up and then fried up to have with bacon or sausages or whatever. She tried her best 'bless' but it was always oozing with fat, I guess that she probably didn't get the fat hot enough or something but whenever 'Bubble & Squeak' is mentioned now it makes me feel queasy.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 02:55 AM

All seriousness aside, when I was young my parents were poor, us kids were poor, the butler was poor, the cook was poor, the upstairs maid was poor, the downstairs maid was poor, the stableboy and the grooms were poor, the chauffeur was poor, the gardener was poor, our dog was poor, we had poor horses and cattle, but all in all we were happy.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 09:42 PM

It's true that Adrien, Norman, and Mary eventually had to eat the other nine to survive, but they didn't let a little thing like that get them down....
      (forgive me, Adrien)

"You're not supposed to let down Heinz cream of tomato soup with the same amount of milk and water"

I hadn't remembered, in decades, that my parents would let my sister and I buy a can of Hormel chili once in a while, but we had to dilute it with about the same amount of water and share it.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Beer
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 09:22 PM

Best memories I have are when we were poor. So many stories to I could relate. Best summed this way I guess. Picture 12 plus Mum and Dad sitting around the kitchen table. No electricity and the cupboards bare, no shoes to wear and only means of transportation was an old horse and our feet.

Ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 07:52 PM

I've seen the same thing at the University of Notre Dame and other schools.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 04:20 PM

We wuz so poor we had to use used toilet paper -- one sheet per person per month.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 03:28 PM

Slag,

   My husband works at an ivy league university and you should see what those kids throw out....and what they believe the rest of the universe to have. Just watching what they do for lunch every day is appaling. A heavy percentage of them eat out for every meal (and I'm not talking about those that live on campus which is pretty much just freshman due to lack of space). And at the end of the semester, there is a treasure trove of quality stuff set out to the curb so the college kids can go home for the summer. Why bother to take it when they can get new seems to be the thought pattern. Crazy.

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: Tig
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 03:26 PM

Money was always tight in our house although we never really realised it as kids.It wasn't until I started catering for myself I discovered something really amazing!

You're not supposed to let down Heinz cream of tomato soup with the same amount of milk and water :-0


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Subject: RE: BS: How Poor Were (Are) You?
From: olddude
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 03:26 PM

So poor that if we wanted a cold, we had to go out and catch one


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