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Subject: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 03:36 PM

OK, I'm all for this! In fact, I'm ready to jump right in, headfirst, deep end!

I like "Queen Eleanor's Confession," requires i female and 2 male singers. great fun. Takes work, bt worth it.

I also just Got Geoff Muldaur's CD, which has the the (in)famous line, "Ain't your kitchen lonely, Now your biscuitroller's gone?" As the liner notes say, single entendre (Tho' that's not the song he meant.)

Down with repression!

MA


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: WyoWoman
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 03:42 PM

Single entendre! I love it!

WW


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Subject: Lyr Add: CIGARETTE BLUES (from Roy Book Binder)
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 04:55 PM

I like Roy Book Binder's rendition of "Cigarette Blues". I've put *** where he just uses music, instead of the words which would really spell it out, so to speak:-)The tape I have is called "Bookeroo!", 1988, Rounder Records. There's some great dobro on it by Jerry Douglas.

CIGARETTE BLUES

Since I'm out here, baby, course I'm all alone,
I haven't got me nobody just to carry my smoking on
Woncha just smoke my cigarette baby, smoke it all night long
Roll my cigarette baby, 'til you make my good ole' ashes *****

Going up the country, git my ashes hauled
Women round this part of town gonna let my ashes fall
Woncha just smoke my cigarette baby, smoke 'em all night long
Roll my cigarette baby, until you make my good ole ashes *****

Going up the country, get my ham bone boiled
Women in this part of town, gonna let my ham bone spoil
Woncha just smoke my cigarette baby, smoke it all night long
Roll my cigarette baby, til you make my ....*****

One thing that I want you to know before I leave from home
No my cigarette ain't too big, no it ain't too ****
Won't you just smoke my cigarette baby, smoke it all night long
Roll my cigarette baby...........


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: The Shambles
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 05:24 PM

GOSH!!!


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 05:48 PM

For another lovely single entendre song see http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=6962&messages=40#42320
(Sorry about the blue clicky etc.)

<a href=http://www.mudcat.org/>Click here</a>


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 06:11 PM

The name escapes me, ( I should be shot ) but something like the locksmith blues. "You got the lock, I am the key" or something like that. Guess I ought to check the DT for the lyrics.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: WyoWoman
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 06:36 PM

See my "Hot Little Cookie" thread for one of my favorite sexual metaphor songs. The blues are especially full of such metaphor -- or maybe I just don't know enough of the trad songs to recognize it. Anyone heard the old blues song, "If I Can't Sell It, Gonna Keep Sittin' On It (I Ain't Gonna Give THIS Good Stuff Away...)" -- She's *actually* talking about a chair. Very funny stuff.

WW


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 06:44 PM

The used furniture store chair frame is a THINLY veiled cover for "If'n I caint sell it... " Great song.

I'm going to dig out my Memphis Minnie CD. She used that "ashes hauled" line in one, but it gets better. Let's see ...


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: harpgirl
Date: 18 Jul 99 - 11:40 PM

...I love that Ruth Brown song, WyoWoman... and of course "I Need a Little Sugar in My Bowl"....harp


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 19 Jul 99 - 12:30 AM

My all time favorite: "I'm like a one-eyed cat, just peekin in your seafood store"


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 02:21 AM

Well, I'm not ready to give up yet; just gettin' that mojo working.

And since this seems to be a ladies-dominant thread, as well it should be to stay PC, let me elaborate:

"You got to know how." (Bonnie Raitt does a cover version.)

"NINE TIMES A NIGHT" is in the DB; the salient verse being:

Wedding was over; the bride tolled the bell
Jack trimmed her sails 5x and that pleased her well
She vowed to herself she was satisfied quite
But she still gave sly hints about NINE TIMES A NIGHT.

(Jack says he can't do it, but his sister she can.)

Of course anything by the Pointer Sisters, especially Mercury Rising or Slow Hand, but I guess they're off limits.

--MA


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 05:25 AM

I sort of like "While Cruising Around Yarmouth" (if that's the actual name of the song).


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: WyoWoman
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 10:02 AM

"Ain't Nobody Bake a Sweet Jelly Roll Like Mine..."

WW


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: WyoWoman
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 10:06 AM

Oh, and Bonnie Raitt has one, the title of which I can't remember,

"Babe, we're gonna get it right, And we'll do it if it takes all night..."

Oh, yeah.

WW


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 10:14 AM

Blind Boy Fuller used to sing "Let me Play With Your Poodle".


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 20 Jul 99 - 10:28 AM

occasional?
The blues is riddled with double & single entedres: the women like Ma Rainey & Bessie Smith, not forgetting Big Mama Thornton (you know the one: looked like Sonny Liston only not so effeminate) gave as good as they got in response to the chauvinist lyrics of the male singers. A lot of their repertoire was bawdy vaudeville as well as blues [I just mis-typed baudeville could be a new term!]
Still kept alive in UK by artists like George Melly & Dana Gillespie [Wrong key & right keyhole; Nuts; Hot dog man; Kitchen man; Put a hot dog in my roll; Under your hood etc etc]


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 10:05 AM

Roger. You've reminded me of something. I don't know a whole lot about George Melly, other than the occasional things I've read about him. (and that he may have been a friend of my hero Quentin crisp). Is there any easy way of accessing his writing? I haven't had a lot of luck finding stuff on the net.
Good thread Mag.
rick


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: George
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 10:09 AM

OK . .

June Tabor's "Fair Maid of Islington" on Aleyn (?) - her most recent CD, anyway.

Of course June always reckons her reason for choosing another song was that it contains the line "She rose and shot her false willy . . ."

Still within June's repetoire there's "Flash Company" . .

And moving away a little there's "The bonny black hare", or slightly less explicit, "The Molecatcher".

Hell, the English tradition is full of them . . I recall the Oyster Band once introducing a song by saying "any line which isn't a double entendre is probably a triple entendre".

And going back a bit and away from folk, there's Dowland's "Man (is for the woman made)"

G.


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 10:20 AM

George Melly mentioned a song on a radio show (BBC) a while back, called "You can play with your poodle but leave my pussy alone". I asked at the time if anyone had the words, but all I got was "Play with your poodle"; I've got Lightning Hopkins doing that. Singing that!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 11:46 AM

Rick, George is probably the living jazz performer I've seen most over the last 30 years, since the days when I haunted London's 100 Club, (perhaps I've seen Humphrey Lyttleton, now 74, more often) he's a bit arthritic now and sounds very emphysemic when he talks, tho' still sings OK. His learned & funny intros are still very entertaining, though he no longer does the paratrooper's roll off stage at the climax of Frankie & Johnny! His two autobiographical books were (from memory) "Rum Bum and Concertina" and "Owning Up", I don't know of any web sources (not that I've looked!). I last saw him on tv showing someone how to fly-fish (his great passion, he has a mile of trout stream in Wales somewhere). He appears locally with the Feetwarmers most years and we try to get along. He's over 70 now and a tribute to a lifetime of bad habits!


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 11:54 AM

Rick, I've just looked up George on COPAC (www.copac.ac.uk) and located two more volumes of autobiography: "I Flook" and "Scouse Mouse". His many works on art & popular culture are also listed.


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: WyoWoman
Date: 21 Jul 99 - 11:44 PM

George -- I think any woman could sympathise with rising up and shooting false willies...

WW


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: SeanM
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 12:29 AM

How could anyone forget that ever-favorite 'I've got a lovely bunch of cocoanuts'? I went through childhood thinking that it was a joke song that didn't really exist... little did I know...

M


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 05:22 AM

Sean, you're confusing it with "the hokey-cokeynut".


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Tony Burns
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 09:26 AM

I heard the most obvious double entendre song of my life on CBC radio about a week ago. The chorus is:

Churn and churn 'til the butter come
Churn and churn 'til the butter come
Keep on pumpin' 'til the butter flow
Wipe off the paddle and churn some more.

Does anyone have the rest of the words? I think the last line in the last verse was "You're my brown cow and I'm your bull".


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 11:30 AM

Rick, try this source for press releases on George Melly:
melly@lemon-enterprises.com


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 11:44 AM

Rick, I got the George Mell e-mail address through AltaVista search: mostly recordings, reviews but this interview looks worth reading:
http://www.ronniescotts.co.uk/ronnie_scotts/ronniescotts/096/ronnov4.htm Ronnie Scott Magazine interview
Hope that's worked!


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 12:11 PM

Roger, you're a dream!! If you read the "When the sober...." thread you'll know that the next time over, I'll want to buy you a pint or Five!
rick


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 08:16 PM

I've got an "Elsa Lanchester sings Bawdy Cockney Songs" Vol. II -- something I picked up in a used record store once upon a time -- has such gems on it as "Charity began at home," and the well-known "Ruined Maid." Does anyone know of Vol. I, and where it might be located?? Elsa is, of course, just hysterical.

MA


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 08:20 PM

OK, OK, Max, I see neither of these in in the database; I don't know them, so I'll have to transcribe them before I can post them. MA


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 09:38 PM

Hey, there, it looks like, as of June 22, the last time they revised their site, the Vinyl Resting Place in Portland Oregon had Elsa Lanchester's "Bawdy Cockney Songs" and if I read it correctly, I think they only have it priced at $6.

I also found an official website for her, but nothing for sale. Sorry, I didn't get that address, but it came right up in a search with her name.

katlaughing


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Subject: Lyr Add: ODE TO SPRING (Robert Burns)
From: Snookadive
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 10:41 PM

An old Bobby Burns song. Place your hands over the kiddies' eyes:

Whan mauking bucks at early fucks,
In dewy grass are seen sir,
And birds on bows slip off their mows,
Amang the laeves sae green sir,
Latona's son looks liquorish on,
Dame nature's grand impetus,
Till his prick go rise and westward flies,
To roger Madame Thetis,

Yon wandering rill that marks the hill,
And glances o'er the brae sir,
Slips by a bower where many a flower,
Sheds fragrance on the dae sir,
There Damon lay with Sylvia gay,
To love they thought no crime sir,
The wild birds sang the echoes rang,
While Damons' arse beat time sir.

First wi' the thrush his thrust and push,
Had compass large and long sir,
The blackbird next it's tuneful text,
Much bolder clear and strong sir,
The linnets' lay then came in play,
And the lark that soared aboon sir,
Till Damon fierce mistimed his arse,
And fucked quite out of tune sir.

Been singing it that way for 20-odd years now so it's probably strayed pretty far from the original.

Ms. Katlaughing the Cigarette Blues you referred to was originally done by Bo Carter who favored us with other ditties like Banana In Your Fruit Basket and My Pencil Won't Write No More. He's got a couple of reissues on Yazoo records. Regards

Snookadive

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 21-Sep-02.


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: DonMeixner
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 10:55 PM

I like John Roberts and Tony Barrand's version of "The Coachman" absolutey nothing left to the imagination there. Subtle like a crowbar.

Don


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Mark Clark
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 11:33 PM

Don,

What ever happened to John and Tony? I used to catch them in Chicago at the old Quiet Knight on Belmont but haven't heard anything of them for twenty-five years or so. We still enjoy an album I bought from them back then.

As for women's baudy songs, surely every woman would want to sing Bessie Smith's "You've Been A Good Old Wagon (Daddy But You Done Broke Down)" sometimes.

- Mark


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: DonMeixner
Date: 25 Jul 99 - 11:45 PM

Tony is a teacher, when last I knew, at a college in New England and John is a fulltime performer,(I think). They still get together at times and perform together. Old Song Festival and venues in the North East. I don't think they travel as far as they use too.

Don


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 12:09 AM

I had a chance to play with Tony at the "Gottagetgone" Festival near Albany a couple of years ago. He was in fine form.


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 12:21 AM

Snookadive,

Thanks, I will look for those!

kat


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Ferrara
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 02:50 AM

Janice Cole sings a piece called "Kitchen Man" ... "How I love his candied yams / No one else can eat my hams / I can't do without my kitchen man." Don't know where she learned it. Great song.

Actually, Janice has a big beautiful blues voice, and her most notorious number is a wickedly seductive version of "Rubber Ducky." No words changed, it's all in the expression.


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: dwditty
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 09:39 AM

Alberta Hunter's "Handy Man." ..."he grease's my griddle, and he strokes my fiddle..."


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 01:46 PM

Thanks forthat recordstore, Kat! I'll be in Portland next Monday and can check it out. MA


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Bert
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 02:17 PM

For the sake of completeness, search for @BAWDY


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 02:53 PM

Hey, Mark,

Always good to hear your voice! John and Tony are still doing fine music---many specialized programs for the many holidays containing wonderful folkloristic delvings into obscure musical and verbal history through folk music. It's astounding how very much they know---probably as much as Lou Killen (almost). Their presentation of a Chrismas concert---NOEL SING WE CLEAR----is a treat to say the least. At Augusta Heritage Workshops in West Virginia back in '95 they did one of their classes right before I did my LIARS CLASS (tall tales). I'd always go early to sit in on their offerings. In Chicago Aural Tradition always brought them into town for a show just about every year. Those were heady times...They still are!

Art


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 02:55 PM

Hey, Mark,

Always good to hear your voice! John and Tony are still doing fine music---many specialized programs for the many holidays containing wonderful folkloristic delvings into obscure musical and verbal history through folk music. It's astounding how very much they know---probably as much as Lou Killen (almost). Their presentation of a Chrismas concert---NOEL SING WE CLEAR----is a treat to say the least. At Augusta Heritage Workshops in West Virginia back in '95 they did one of their classes right before I did my LIARS CLASS (tall tales). I'd always go early to sit in on their offerings. In Chicago Aural Tradition always brought them into town for a show just about every year. Those were heady times...They still are!

Art


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: LEJ
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 02:59 PM

I like that song, Snookadive. Ranks up there with The Bonny Black Hare .

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Captain Swing
Date: 26 Jul 99 - 04:13 PM

This reminds me of the story of the woman who went into a bar and said to the barman, " Give me a double entendre". So the barman gave her one!

Captain Swing


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 10:13 PM

Kat, I found "Vinyl Resting Place" in Portland on Sunday (closed Mondays) and got my Elsa Lanchester vol. 1!

Met the very nice shopowner, who said he is also an occasional lurker here, and he does most of his business on the 'Net.

Got some other stuff, too, 2 Alberta Hunters, plus 1 very scratched one that has "My handy man ain't handy no mo'."

Reminds me of the contemporary stuff I used to hear; "Old men with young ideas," or "Get out 'the way and let a boy do a man-size job."

Oh, fun fun fun. I had me a young one once, and we lasted longer (YEARS, you guys) than anything else ever did for me ...


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 10:20 PM

The guy lasted YEARS??? FAR OUT! What's he on? Is it the new Viagra generic, Mycoxaphalin?

(You already regret sending me that joke don't you Kat?)

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 03 Aug 99 - 10:25 PM

Take two hash brownies and go to bed Paw.


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Aug 99 - 12:27 AM

Naw, 'Spaw....I'm glad you've foudn a way to work it in here!

MAG! That's great! Portland sure sounds like a great place. Glad you found the place & the treasures.

Now about that younger one.....**BG**

kat


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Subject: RE: Occasional Stray into Bawdiness
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 04 Aug 99 - 10:27 AM

...browsing the Elderly site I notice they have a record category:Novelty and Popular Blues which has several examples of the "baudeville" genre, for students of the single & double entendre (in the cause of pure research, of course).


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