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BS: Domestication of Dogs

Bonzo3legs 03 Sep 21 - 04:45 AM
Senoufou 03 Sep 21 - 03:49 AM
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Stilly River Sage 31 Aug 21 - 09:50 AM
Backwoodsman 31 Aug 21 - 05:42 AM
Senoufou 31 Aug 21 - 05:36 AM
Nigel Parsons 31 Aug 21 - 04:12 AM
punkfolkrocker 30 Aug 21 - 09:52 PM
keberoxu 30 Aug 21 - 09:49 PM
Donuel 30 Aug 21 - 08:59 PM
Steve Shaw 30 Aug 21 - 05:13 PM
Nigel Parsons 30 Aug 21 - 04:55 PM
Donuel 30 Aug 21 - 04:41 PM
Bonzo3legs 30 Aug 21 - 04:39 PM
Steve Shaw 30 Aug 21 - 03:46 PM
punkfolkrocker 30 Aug 21 - 02:57 PM
Backwoodsman 30 Aug 21 - 12:46 PM
Backwoodsman 30 Aug 21 - 12:44 PM
Donuel 30 Aug 21 - 12:44 PM
Dave the Gnome 30 Aug 21 - 11:56 AM
Donuel 30 Aug 21 - 11:41 AM
Jeri 30 Aug 21 - 11:20 AM
The Sandman 30 Aug 21 - 10:56 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Sep 21 - 04:45 AM

Yes that's right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Senoufou
Date: 03 Sep 21 - 03:49 AM

Belated Happy Birthday to your darling greyhound Bonzo! (Is she called Dreamy? My memory is getting terrible!) Hope the run in Strawberry Fields was enjoyable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Sep 21 - 04:50 PM

Our greyhound is 7 years old today, so happy birthday to her!! We take her to a secure field called oddly "Strawberry Field" tomorrow, where she can lurch about off lead for up to an hour. However the longest she's lasted so far is 40 minutes, when she just stands by our car!


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Aug 21 - 09:50 AM

My three are all flopped down on the cold tile floor, cooling off after our morning walk. 77o and 80% humidity - better than the last few days when it was 90%. Once they've stopped panting so hard I feed them. There is a problem called "bloat" that can happen if they eat a big meal then get a lot of exercise; I don't want to create some similar but reverse situation by giving them exercise then feeding right away (though they get half in the morning and half in the evening—also to avoid bloat).

I tell them we'll all wait - I don't get my first cuppa tea until they get fed. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Aug 21 - 05:42 AM

LOL Sen! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Senoufou
Date: 31 Aug 21 - 05:36 AM

I think we need a subordinate claws. Or perhaps a paws for thought?
Some posters on here are wags. And create bones of contention.
Fleas try to be kind. And don't bite.
Purrhaps things will improve. Or will become just pants?


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 31 Aug 21 - 04:12 AM

. . . cheaper than a dogfight, you don't need aeroplanes ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:52 PM

oooooooooh.. catfight...


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:49 PM

Could we come up with an excuse to use the word

Mudcatawampus? No?   Shoot. I like that word.

Maybe we could refer to our pet Trolls, when they raise their ugly heads,
by saying
Mudcatawampus Alert!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 08:59 PM

song of hope

for bonzo


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 05:13 PM

There's plenty of dogging determination round here. I hear that Kit Hill is the place to be...


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 04:55 PM

Stop being dogist by continuing to condone the evil of cats,

It's not being 'dogist'. It's just a form of dogged determination.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 04:41 PM

In the South, people who catch big catfish with their bare hands are called mudcatters. They stick their hand in a hidy spot under water and jam their hand in the fish's mouth and make a fist. Then pull.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 04:39 PM

Perhaps Mudbiden as they seem to hero worship him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 03:46 PM

No! I won't have it! It's Mudhamster or nothing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 02:57 PM

As a dog lover I must insist it's about time
mudcat changed it's name to muddog..

If admin do not comply immediately you may regret not showing support
for our canine friends.

Stop being dogist by continuing to condone the evil of cats,


People and organizations have been cancelled for far less..

You have been warned..


woof....!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 12:46 PM

ĒJust delete them without reading.Ē

Exactly what I did, Jeri. I always do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 12:44 PM

Donít bother with him, Dave. As I always say, ĎDonít Feed The Trollí.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 12:44 PM

Dogs on fire songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O5cGUs2OM4


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 11:56 AM

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want me to disclose your PMs to me, Dick.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 11:41 AM

If you dont wish to receive BM's leave the forum and be our guest
be our guest be our guest
Come on we'll kick your ass
You've won your own free pass
To be our guest
If you're stressed
It's fine posting we suggest
Be our guest
Be our guest
Be our guest
Need some practice to be an asshole?
Mostly we just lay around the castle
Flabby, fat and lazy
You walked in and oops-a-daisy
It's a guest
It's a guest
Sakes alive, well, I'll be blessed
Wine's been poured the flood has crest
I've had the napkins freshly pressed
With dessert
She'll want tea
And my dear, that's fine with me
While the cups do their soft shoeing
I'll be bubbling, I'll be brewing
I'll get warm
Piping hot
Heaven's sakes! Is that a spot?
Clean it up! We want the company impressed
We've got a lot to do
Is it one lump or two
For you, our guest?
Be our guest
Be our guest
Our command is your request
It's been years since we had smart folks here
And we're obsessed
To appease
With our ease
Yes, indeed, we aim to please
While the candlelight's still glowing
Let us help you
We'll keep going
Course by course
One by one
'Til you shout, "Enough! I'm done!"
Then we'll sing you off to sleep since you got pissed
Tonight you'll prop your feet up
But for now, let's eat up
Be our guest
Be our guest
Be our guest


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 11:20 AM

Just delete them without reading.
He doesn't understand that "unwanted", when the sender knows a person doesn't want them, is the same thing as "mean". It's stalker behavior.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:56 AM

I disclosed them so that it was clear they were polite and factual and not mean. There was an insinuation that they might be mean[ not by you]
If you dont wish to receive pms leave the forum and be a guest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:22 AM

Everyone has pet peeves, mine are in laws with good reason.
I noticed my dog give a heavy sigh. I doubled her activity and she stopped sighing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:16 AM

And itís considered very bad form to disclose the contents of PMs on-thread. Do you understand?


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:12 AM

I donít want PMs from you, Iíve told you before not to PM me. Stop PM-ing me. Do you understand?


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:05 AM

Cats generally cover their faeces
Cats generally cover or bury their faeces, not always, but very often.
Then there are Foxes, I often see their faeces when they have been eating blackberries.
Dog owners often take their pets for a walk and can see the animal shitting in public and should always clear up afterwards most of them do.
thse are the two PMS Isent to backwoodsman
they are perfectly polite and factual.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:24 AM

I noticed old pm's were either advice or support.
The antagonizing PM is a modern development
perhaps as an outgrowth of cruelty politics as seen on Facebook.
Dogs would never send a mean PM and thats a fact.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 02:28 PM

Bugger, got distracted by the door-bell! Should have saidÖ

If I have something to say on a thread-topic, I say it on-thread - if itís something Iím not prepared to say on-thread, I donít say it at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 02:25 PM

Cheers Dave, like you, I think we are in agreement on most things, and Iím happy that our different views on other areas can be put away without damage to our relationship here - much appreciated.

I donít allow myself to be provoked by PM, and I donít get involved in PM discussions. If I have something to say on a thread-topic, If only others would do the same. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 09:46 AM

I'm the same, John. Nothing whatsoever against dogs. Just putting undeniable facts on the table that many dog-owners seem to be unwilling to recognise. I think we are in complete agreement on the undeniable facts about many cat and dog owners. Also in agreement about PMs from Dick as I got one too. I suspect yours was the reverse of mine but they both ended up in the same bin :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 09:46 AM

Stop creepin round my back door


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 06:49 AM

We buy the proper compostable poo-bags which are made from potato-starch, so they completely degrade within six months and leave no nasty-plastic particles to get into wild-lifeís innards and the water system.

I do the same if I see someone not cleaning up.

Weíre not such a bad lot, are we? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 05:41 AM

I always use babies' nappy bags for picking up our grey's droppings, which are either deposited in a council litter bin marked for dog waste or taken home for flushing down the lavatory. If I see a dog owner not picking up dog's poo I offer a nappy bag!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 04:27 AM

Not Ďdefensiveí at all, Dave - my conscience is absolutely clear where taking responsibility for my dogís shit is concerned. Just putting undeniable facts on the table that many cat-owners seem to be unwilling to recognise. Pax.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 03:31 AM

OK,John. You are obviously very defensive about something so I shall leave it too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: keberoxu
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 08:12 PM

To circle back to Stilly's link to the article
about humans grieving the loss of canine companionship:

a human with a dog-shaped hole in his or her heart
remembers other things altogether:
that wagging tail,
the expression in the eyes,
the warm snuggle,
or what Donuel rightly calls
the "horizontal grass dance."


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 05:41 PM

I think youíve missed the point, Dave.

Yes, I pick up after my dog anywhere and everywhere he takes a dump, and I do pick up other dogsí shit if thereís a pile close by when Iím doing so. Iím not suggesting you, or any cat-owner, should pick up other peopleís catsí shit, but it would be nice if cat owners did what they expect dog-owners to do and pick up their catsí shit anywhere and everywhere they take a dump. My dog never steps outside the confines of our garden without my wife or me being with him. How many cat-owners even know where their cats are all of the time, let alone where they take a dump when theyíre roaming?

As Iíve said a number of times on Ďdogí threads, Iím not anti-cat, Iíve owned cats, held them in high affection, and still do feel an strong affinity with them. But I do find it galling that cat-owners use un-picked-up dog shit as a weapon to beat responsible dog-owners like me with, when thereís plenty of un-picked-up cat shit lying around, including on my property, that no-one makes any effort to pick up.

And cat shit stinks just as bad as dog-shit, if not worse, when itís on the sole of your shoe and you trample it on your hall carpet, as I did a few weeks ago after unknowingly treading in it while reading the gas-meter! ;-)

But we could go over and over this ground, which is pointless. So Iím leaving it here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 04:27 PM

ęiĽWell thatís true Dave but picking it up in your own back garden is one thing, picking it up elsewhere is something else.ę/iĽ

Well, as I just said, I do pick up from my neighbour's garden but that is beside the point. I do pick up our cat's poop. Why should I pick up anyone else's? You pick up your own dog's mess. Do you pick up others? I'm not following your reasoning here...


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 12:42 PM

SRS, itís also the polite thing to do here in the UK and, in cities, towns and villages at least, bins are strategically placed by local authorities for dog-walkers to deposit their tied-up poo-bags. If there are no convenient poo-bins, itís perfectly acceptable to drop your poo-bags in a standard litter-bin but, t.b.h., itís really not a huge imposition to carry a bag or two home and put it/them in oneís own bin.

Unfortunately, there is a minority of dog-owners who ignore the Golden Rule of Poop-Scooping, and whose indolence/lack of social conscience gives those of us who are fastidious about picking-up an undeserved bad reputation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 11:06 AM

Sounds like a book, The High moral ground of cat poop. :

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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 10:55 AM

It is considered the polite thing to do, at the very least, to pick up dog droppings when you're in a public place or if out walking your and dog stops and leaves it in the street or a yard. I always have a couple of grocery (carrier) bags with me to pick it up and tie off the bag. If you think about it, it's a great weapon if you ever feel threatened when you're out walking (and having dogs with you isn't enough protection!) - swing or wave or throw the bag of dog waste. (It's easiest when our walks are on trash day to drop the bag in one of the bins as we walk past. Otherwise it goes in the trash at home. Everything out in the yard is picked up periodically and dropped into the compost.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 08:36 AM

ĒOur cat poops on the stones in our back garden and we clean it up. I also clean the poop of a cat who visits next door's side lawn. We have previously had indoor cats which only ever used a litter tray. Just because you have not heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, John.Ē

Well thatís true Dave but picking it up in your own back garden is one thing, picking it up elsewhere is something else. Someoneís cat has recently taken to hiding its shit in the gravel surrounding my gas-meter box by my front door - as I discovered when I stood in it while reading my meter! Nobody followed that one to clear up after it! Fortunately, having a cat-hating dog, we donít tend to get feline Ďvisitorsí in our back garden nowadays. ;-)

But, as I know you know, my point was that, for every perfectly valid complaint about un-cleaned-up dog-shit, thereís at least another equally-valid complaint about un-cleaned-up cat-shit, and cat-owners arenít really in any position to try to occupy the high moral ground on the topic of their petsí waste products - thereís fault on both sides.

I do have to say though, that there can be no excuse for poo-bags hung in trees and bushes, or strewn around and left lying on the ground. I completely fail to comprehend the mindset of those who go to the trouble of picking their dogís shit up, but then leave the bag lying around like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Senoufou
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 08:11 AM

When we had five cats at one time (!) we lived deep in the countryside with a half-acre garden. But they always preferred to use their big litter tray in the house. I didn't mind at all.
Now we live in a street of bungalows, and the little rescued kitten next door, 'Archie', has now grown up and is starting to explore the neighbourhood. He likes to come to me for a little chat when I'm sitting on The Bench. Every time, after our little 'conversation' he squats on the lawn right in front of me, does a huge poo, then smiles in a friendly way. I reckon he's saying, "Here's a nice present for you!"
I honestly don't mind this. I put it on a small shovel and chuck it under our hedge.
Husband says he wonders what Archie's owners would say if he squatted on their lawn and did a huge poo, then smiled benignly. hee hee


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 07:56 AM

Our cat poops on the stones in our back garden and we clean it up. I also clean the poop of a cat who visits next door's side lawn. We have previously had indoor cats which only ever used a litter tray. Just because you have not heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, John.


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 05:11 AM

ĒWe have the grumbles and photos of dog poo on our village Facebook group too. What I find more annoying though is those owners who clean up and then leave the bag hanging on a low tree branch or bush. What's that about!?!?Ē

Oh, it annoys the hell out of us responsible dog owners too, Dave, who pick up after their dogs without fail, and put the bag in a bin or take it home (we have a separate bin for Baxterís poo bags at the bottom of the garden. We donít understand it either and, of course, those dirty, lazy, anti-social A-holes get decent, socially-responsible owners a bad name.

Mind you, itís no worse than doing a bit of work on your borders and finding your hands covered in the cat-shit that someone elseís cat buried there! And Iíve never, ever seen or heard of a cat owner following their cat around and picking up after it! (And, BTW, Iím not a cat hater, Iím a fan of cats and was owned by a number during my first marriage!). ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 04:12 AM

The book "A story like the wind" by the wonderful author Laurens van der Post tells a tale centred around a boy and his Rhodesian Ridgeback, Hintza. One section explains that the Bushman for "forward" is "tza" and this nearly ends in disaster when Hintza only hears the last bit and nearly jumps off a cliff!

He was OK BTW :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Senoufou
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 03:29 AM

Haha Dave! A 'Molly flower'! That's so sweet.
I've always thought one should name a pet with something you can call easily. If it ends in 'y' this is ideal. We had cats called Smokey, Minty, Murphy and so on. I read on Mumsnet (I think it was) that some lady wanted to call her cat 'Jesus'! Everyone said that standing at her back door calling "Jesus! Jesus!" would have given her neighbours food for thought!
We once took in a poor little cocker spaniel called Pela just for the weekend. Her South African owners (we cleaned their house for them weekly) intended to go away and just leave her trapped in their concrete backyard. They were hard-hearted (and rather racist towards my black husband, which enraged me) so we took her home with us.
It was the first time we'd ever 'owned' a dog, and my husband was horrified that one was expected to lift the hot poo from the pavement in a thin plastic bag. But he manfully stepped up, and we walked Pela all over our lovely village. That dog was so delighted to live with us, and for the two days she spent the whole time in my arms on my lap or snuggled up to us in bed!
I'm afraid I cried when we took her back to those nasty people. But fortunately, they went back to SA and gave Pela to a nice lady they knew. Thank God!


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 02:21 AM

Our remaining cat is called Molly, Sen. The one that passed away last year was Lily. On mentioning that a Stargazer lily had just flowered in our front garden last week we found Molly, later, curled up in a raised bed at the back. She must have heard about the lily flower and decided we needed a Molly flower too :-)

We have the grumbles and photos of dog poo on our village Facebook group too. What I find more annoying though is those owners who clean up and then leave the bag hanging on a low tree branch or bush. What's that about!?!?


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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Aug 21 - 07:40 AM

There's a very funny series of short little films on Youtube about Charlie the Golden. It's about a golden retriever and his housemates and their antics, with hilarious subtitles putting words in their mouths.
Charlie often 'says' "I swear to Dog!" and "What the fluff?"
It came up on my Facebook doodah and I quickly got hooked.
I love 'coaching' (Norfolk word for stroking) all the dogs that are led past our house on their walks round the lakes and river.
So many are called 'Molly'. Then there's Buddy, Logie, Leyla, and lots more, mostly in twos or threes.
What's even funnier and makes me smile are the numerous angry posts with large photos of piles of dog poo left on the pavements, and displayed on our Village Facebook. Most people pick up their dogs' 'deposits' but some don't. I laugh when I imagine someone standing there taking a close-up of a lump of poo and their extremely cross comments.


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