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BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew

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GUEST,S O'P (Astray) 15 Feb 10 - 07:36 AM
Will Fly 15 Feb 10 - 07:23 AM
s&r 15 Feb 10 - 06:09 AM
catspaw49 15 Feb 10 - 05:50 AM
WalkaboutsVerse 15 Feb 10 - 05:47 AM
GUEST,S O'P (Astray) 15 Feb 10 - 05:24 AM
olddude 15 Feb 10 - 12:36 AM
Amos 14 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM
catspaw49 14 Feb 10 - 06:41 PM
WalkaboutsVerse 14 Feb 10 - 04:16 PM
catspaw49 14 Feb 10 - 02:46 PM
WalkaboutsVerse 14 Feb 10 - 12:00 PM
catspaw49 14 Feb 10 - 06:59 AM
mandotim 14 Feb 10 - 06:43 AM
Will Fly 14 Feb 10 - 06:36 AM
Dave Hanson 14 Feb 10 - 05:55 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,S O'P (Astray)
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:36 AM

should enjoy listening to your American pop and rock, BUT perform from our OWN good cultural heritage, and let Americans be Americans!

One of these days, WAV, you might wake up and realise that Pop and Rock are universal traditional idioms that came about through cross-pollinations so wondrous as to ensure a myriad diversity of musical forms that are continually evolving. Could The Animals have come from anywhere but Newcastle? The Beatles anywhere but Liverpool? Joy Division anywhere but Manchester? Soft Machine anywhere but Canterbury? Faust anywhere but Germany? Magma anywhere but France? Sigur Ross anywhere but Iceland? Man anywhere by Wales?

If you accept (and indeed promote) the idea of a multi-national Christianity, then why not Rock & Pop music?


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Will Fly
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:23 AM

David - I would also applaud your decision to leave the verse to your own websites. I don't doubt some of us will engage in debate and argument with you in other threads, but the repeated posting of the same verses is, in the end, fruitless.

I'm not a great fan of your poetry but - if you wrote some NEW stuff on your website, I'd give it a look. If an art form seriously engages a person, I don't think he or she could just draw a line under it and call it their Life's Work. Life goes on - we change as people - we get older and different. That should surely be reflected in what we say, whether we say it in words and/or music.

So - pick up the pen and paper, exercise the Little Grey Cells and have a go.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:09 AM

Welcome to Mudcat

Stu


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:50 AM

...I'm now going to stop posting a daily ditty here (they'll have to goto my myspace blog each day).

An excellent decision David. Thank you.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:47 AM

Firstly, it varies, but I do read and participate in other threads (click on my name and you'll soon see rugby, a couple started by Crow Sister, Olympics, etc.).
Secondly, this from Amos suggests more, not less, repetition, is needed - "you could make a rock radio hit out of it."...how many times have I said that we, on this side of the pond, should enjoy listening to your American pop and rock, BUT perform from our OWN good cultural heritage, and let Americans be Americans!

As Tom suggested, above, some may not be happy that I'm now going to stop posting a daily ditty here (they'll have to goto my myspace blog each day).


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,S O'P (Astray)
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:24 AM

There really is a lot of fun on mudcat so do join in on other threads and maybe everyone take a break from the verse thread for a little bit.

One of the best ever Mudcat threads was instigated by David & is certainly the most fun I've ever had here. Contains some genuinely creative WAV prose too:

The re-Imagined Village


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: olddude
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 12:36 AM

David
I to would also like to see you join in on other threads also. It was good to see you post in a few others. I thought the thread you started about cricket was interesting and you have shared your views in other threads also. Folks get to know you and understand you when you join in on other discussions. It is fun and I think people would like to see you there also. You have a good sense of humour and some of the threads are just fun, especially when Spaw gets on a roll. He had me laughing for three days calling me names when I sent him my CD and I short changed the postage on him. It was priceless. There really is a lot of fun on mudcat so do join in on other threads and maybe everyone take a break from the verse thread for a little bit. It would good to have you share your thoughts on the music, jokes, pets and all the other nonsense that is here

Dan


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 06:53 PM

"Salt Upon My Lips" is the first piece of yours, David, that I read without wincing at the abuse. And I notice one reason is that you gave up that obsessive, puerile addiction to tawdry rhyme schemes that required you to distort the language so badly. I won't say it's good, that last thing of yours, but it doesn't suck--you could make a rock radio hit out of it. That's no great praise but its better than your usual stuff.

I have to say, David, that Spaw is not being just vicious and nasty--he is trying to crack your unreasoning self-defensive carapace. The black screen of self-righteousness is a terrible thing to hide behind. Your life would be much richer if you let go of it.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 06:41 PM

Frankly David, I would encourage one and all to go to YOUR websites and read YOUR statements and YOUR life's work........at YOUR WEBSITES.

Don't you think that three or more times is enough here at Mudcat? I really don't think that any of us, no matter how we feel about your work, would begrudge you the privilege of posting it all here once, but this sort of thing that you are indulging in is ridiculous. Invite everyone to go to YOUR WEBSITES and READ YOUR POETRY. They all can read your every thought at YOUR WEBSITE. You and I are just members here and a certain amount of consideration is due to both of us and others.   Please be considerate and post YOUR VIEWS, YOUR LIFE'S WORK, and anything your heart desires at YOUR WEBSITE. In Mudcat threads you can link to YOUR WEBSITE for others to go to and read whatever you want them to read.....AT YOUR WEBSITE.

Why not end this thread now and participate in the other threads here like the one on Rugby and many others? When you do you can link them to things on YOUR WEBSITE without reposting them here. Otherwise I really see no end to this........Do you?


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 04:16 PM

Caveat lector: please ignore such foolishness, reader, and check my life's work for yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 02:46 PM

No cheap shot at all but honest comment upon your work when I say:

- Your poetry sucks.....Forced meter and/or rhyme with poor constrution overall; the words themselves make me believe you swallowed a Thesaurus.

- It has been posted repeatedly before.......Why not just link it? Do you see others here doing anything like this? Many will agree that your "Life's Work" is free to be posted but certainly not repeatedly for your own puerile need.

- It is full of bigoted and racist statements........Most have been poinyed out to you repeatedly and yet you seem to think that bigoted renmarks are not so if you don't think they are. A bigot is a bigot, if only by accident and if they "mean well."


- That which isn't racist is often incredidbly juvenile........Virtually every one of your supposed poems is juvenile in both content and construction.

- It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.........If you have traveled, it is obvious you learned nothing from it.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 12:00 PM

More bitchy cheap-shots/more delusion - not just talking down but way down to someone who any reasonable person would accept as being highly travelled, trained, and achieved (read my blurb).


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 06:59 AM

You should call that piece of shit "Dose of Salts."

- Your poetry sucks
- It has been posted repeatedly before
- It is full of bigoted and racist statements
- That which isn't racist is often incredidbly juvenile
- It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world,
- especially considering your supposed travels.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 06:43 AM

So, David; I've asked a question that you can't (or won't) answer? (Again). You've got plenty of time to do the research, so why not do it? I mean, it's not as if you're doing anything useful, is it?
You really don't get it, do you David? What irritates me (and 99% of the others who seek to engage you on these threads)is your constant carping about what's wrong with the country and the culture that is currently enabling you to be idle all day and spend time polluting the internet with your rubbish. If you were contributing anything meaningful and well-considered, I might just tolerate you. But you don't, do you? Your ideas are all, without exception, unsustainable, unrealistic and rooted in your racist and sexist fantasies. Your poetry has no literary or social merit whatsoever, and your attempts at music are simply laughable. When challenged, you are completely unable to defend any of your assertions, and retreat into either mad rambling or re-quoting your appalling verse. Despite all this, you have a very high opinion of yourself and everything you do, so high that you feel able to lecture people on this board about their own areas of expertise (Eliza Carthy springs to mind), and aspire to be paid for your artistic efforts. This high opinion extends into other areas; you think you should have the power to order women to behave as you wish, and to order the exclusion of other races and cultures from taking a full part in the life of this country. You also believe that the trading systems of the world should be altered to suit your views, and that religions should reorganise themselves along the lines of the Gospel According to WalkaboutsVerse. Employers (in your view) are unfairly denying you jobs, despite manifest evidence that you are not sane enough to work. You should listen very carefully David; you are ill, and you should seek professional help. You are not just 'odd', or 'eccentric', you are way, way beyond that point. Your paranoia and megalomania are out of control, and there is evidence of obsessive/compulsive behaviour in the way you keep posting and re-posting your verses here and elsewhere. Your views on women hint at some rather odd sexual issues as well. I also suspect that Walkaboutsverse is becoming a true alter ego, allowing you to air some of your masturbatory fantasies in public. I'm leaving this thread now, David, as I've realised it's pointless letting you drag me down to your level; when it comes to idiotic conversations, you will always beat me because of your greater experience.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Will Fly
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 06:36 AM

David - you missed out the last verse:

"And...

Big bottoms, big bottoms,
Talk about mudflaps, my girl's got 'em.
Big bottoms, big bottoms,
Talk about bumcakes, my girl's got 'em."


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 05:55 AM

You just don't get it do you Wavy ? or anything for that matter.

to re-iterate
- Your poetry sucks
- It has been posted repeatedly before
- It is full of bigoted and racist statements
- That which isn't racist is often incredidbly juvenile
- It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world,
- especially considering your supposed travels.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 05:29 AM

As I say, Tim and Spaw, "hot air".

No-more risque than "Song of Songs" in The Bible, and for no-one in particular...

Poem 108 of 230: YOUR SALT UPON MY LIPS

(TUNE:

F# G A A B B C#' C#' A
A C#' C#' C#' B A B A
A C#' C#' C#' B A B C#' A
A C#' C#' C#' B A A B C#' A

A B B C#' C#' B A B A
B B C#' C#' B A B A
B C#' C#' C#' C#' B A B C#' A
A C#' C#' C#' B A B A
B B C#' C#' C#' B A B A)      
   
I saw the tears escape your eyelids,
I felt the stinging on your cheeks,
I knew the blur within your vision,
I heard you cry and I smelt the water...

And I want your salt upon my lips -
Ah-huh, your salt upon my lips.
Yeah, I want to be with you in private,
And kiss your salt onto my lips -
Ah-huh, taste your salt upon my lips.

I saw you come out of the ocean,
I felt the sun shine on your skin,
I knew the tingle through your torso,
I heard the surf and I smelt the water...

And...

I saw the sweat break from your body,
I felt the heat build in your cheeks,
I knew the beating of your big heart,
I heard you sigh and I smelt the water...

And...

(C) David Franks 2003
From WalkaboutsVerse


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 14 Feb 10 - 03:29 AM

Still waiting for a reasoned answer, but in the meantime;
Walkaboutsverse,--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 04:05 PM

Nary an answer there WavyFWBR..........That's a Bullshit cocktail with an umbrella. The situation here is pretty much the same. What's the matter Doodles? Too good for less than perfect job?

We have a saying generally attributed to an African-American leader of the '60's, Eldridge Cleaver:

"........you're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem."


YOU are part of the problem.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 03:52 PM

You assume a lot as you make your false accusations, Spaw. I've lots of manufacturing experience, with several companies, as I've gone for both permanent- and fixed-term contracts; also, the economy is barely out of recession here and, thus, as you try yet another way to get at me, you insult many others.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 02:53 PM

Face it David.......or at least admit it for a start. You have no experience and instead of your supposed travels opening your eyes, you take life in as a blinded fool.

I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that you have never held any real world job for more than a year.   You never speak of any working experience when you talk about job hunting. You only speak of your dubious training and certificates......and that life isn't fair to you.

How long were you employed at your last job?
How long have you been unemployed?
When was your last interview?
How many interviews have you had in the past two years?
Have you had ANY job offers?
Why have you not been hired by someone if you're so damn qualified?
Do you think your search is in any way enhanced by remaining UNEMPLOYED?



Also worth noting here:

--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 01:27 PM

THe problem is you speak so inaccurately. To blithely assert "larger facilities should be nationalized within a stronger United Nations" shows a great sloppiness of thought or speech or both.

General Motors, for example, should not be nationalized, despite being a very large facility. Perhaps you think Heathrow should be nationalized because of its size? Or do you actually mean only those large facilities whihc are part of the common infrastructure of society, likes the roads and the postal system, for example?

We have two companies in the US which are almost as alrge as the postal system--UPS and FEDEx. Neither one of them should be nationalized for any rational reason.

PErhaps when you think through what you mean, and take the trouble to say as much in clear language, you will not be thrown back on the barricades of vague self-defense.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 11:52 AM

Hot air - huffed and puffed against an argument founded on the solid foundations of much travel and training.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 11:00 AM

That's a considered response??? What it boils down to is an unresearched, unverifiable and illogical opinion, based upon no factual evidence whatsoever and rooted in a set of unpleasant prejudices known here as WAVism. No definition of terms, no consideration of how these sweeoing changes might be achieved. Face it David; your political attempts are as inadequate as the rest of your life, as evidenced by your writings, your employment record and your social skills. In addition,
--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.
Still waiting for a reasoned answer to my questions above, WAV. Do try harder this time. Or just feck off and pollute some other list, I don't mind which.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Amos
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 10:38 AM

David should not be mocked; he is a man of great breadth, and uncharted shallows.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 08:28 AM

"I like fair competition, which, in my opinion, requires good strong regulations, and large facilities are better regulated by nationalisation within each nation of a stronger United Nations."

Totally lame.....as a matter of fact, it has no legs. That is your most skewed view that allows you to explain to yourself why you have no job. Nothing is fair is it? Poor and pathetic David.

And so I repeat:

--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 08:01 AM

WAV you have delusions of adequacy.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 04:58 AM

Tim, as you may remember, then, I've said this in verse, but shall now try in gobbledygook-ish prose: accepting we humans are competitive, I like fair competition, which, in my opinion, requires good strong regulations, and large facilities are better regulated by nationalisation within each nation of a stronger United Nations.

Now, in the lead-up to Valentine's Day, here's some gobbledygook-ish verse...

Poem 106 of 230: TESTING 4,3,2,1

I've tried to learn to sing a song
Well enough to let a singer
Know the way I found to sing
My lyric-only songs.

That is, just in case a singer
Was in want of a way to sing
These lyric-only songs.

But I'm sorry there's no notes with the songs,
And hope they're okay said, if not sung -

As love songs.

(P.S: writing, via mimicking, my tunes came late,
But they were all in shorthand by 2008.)

(C) David Franks 2003
From WalkaboutsVerse


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 03:58 AM

One more time; I asked you to define 'regulationism' as a philosophy, without referring to your crap poem on the subject, since this is simplty a bunch of half-baked opinions. I asked you to offer a considered, rational view of why you think it is a good thing to limit the freedom of individuals in such draconian ways. I asked you to support this by reference to the political literature (not unreasonable, since you claim to have an academic background). In other words, WAV, I asked you to think for once about what you are saying rather than regurgitating the tired, nonsensical observations contained in you 'life's work'. A proper answer this time please; I showed you enough respect to plough through all your turgid rubbish, I think you owe me the courtesy of a considered answer in return. I have asked you a number of other questions recently, including a request to justify your comments about Stu and I. No answers to these either, I note. By the way;
--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: richd
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 07:20 PM

Sould be 'contact' sorry, a slip..


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: richd
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 07:18 PM

Indeed, "Believe the tale, not the teller". Yes I am better, physically. Thank you for asking. You, WAW appear not to be, as far as I can tell, since you are still posting. These things.. this 'poetry' is a symptom, no? Your meaning for living? Your conact? Only guessing mind.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 12:21 PM

I'll try again in simple words:

Despite what you think about yourself (Nice guy?) Your posts are as I describe. I don't know you or what you are save for Sean's favourable description and your posts. I and some if not many others find a lot of your posts offensive on many grounds. I can only judge your posts: this is what I repeatedly comment upon.

Stu


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 12:01 PM

You should be "sorry", Stu - I'm none of those...and a "homophobic" male who hates women?!


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 11:03 AM

Oh WAV..
I really do try to avoid ad hominem remarks and address my comments to your posts rather than to you.

So - I am interested/horrified by the repetitive copy pasts with which you flood the internet. Putting 'walkaboutsverse' and a quote from one of your posts into Google will generally produce hundreds (occasionally thousands) of hits.

Your poetry generally - not very good. Occasional items that could be edited into acceptable offerings. Occasional imagery that suggests you had thoughts.

Your music - here I disagree with Sean (I often concur) I find it almost entirely without merit. Your pitch is uncertain (to be kind) your timing and rhyming is not of this world.

Your published beliefs - homophobic, racist, misogynist, bigoted. As I have said before, I believe you think you are a nice guy.

Your posts are offensive

Sorry

Stu


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: olddude
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 09:32 AM

I really like "following the Sun" that is cool, great images of a place I never been to ... very cool


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Tom - Swords & Songs
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 08:51 AM

Hey, Daveybaby - that reminds me of a quetion posed to you that you never answered (shock horror!)

Would you allow a lesbian to become an archbishop?
Didn't you do that poem about not wanting gay couples to adopt? That was pretty sick right there.

Actually, I don't think you've ever really panned out what your general thoughts about homosexuality are. 'An abomination against your God' or 'Totally cool to do, everyone should try it!' I have long had my suspicions that you might be playing your English flute from within a closet (see this video) ...

TomonTom Action


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 08:37 AM

You should see the light and become a lover of the frank, Tom.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Tom - Swords & Songs
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 07:00 AM

I'm a WAVoholic.
I love this thread.
I love reading David's crappy website with all the horrible, rascist, uninformed, unworkable opinions which exist therein.
I love putting on his painful attempts at music for people who have never heard it and seeing the confused looks on their faces as they try to work out whether it's all a big joke
I love the idea that someone unemployed and with an aussie accent can hold such strong views about English Nationalism and work ethics.
I love how strongly people fight to show him the error of his ways to no avail.
I love WAV's constant refusal to answer straight forward questions.
I love that David gets a little upset by the repeat posting of these simple FACTS:

--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.

Frankslover Tom


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 06:53 AM

E.g., Tim, I have defined "Global Regulationism." And, if Stu would care to go back a couple of months through his posts (rather than google for his beloved stats), I'm almost certain he will find mentioning that I do sing like I play.

A minor correction - I just remembered that a recent "Country File" (BBC) programme had P.V.C being used for silage NOT hay; thus, I'll change the last line in the first stanza (above) to: "And P.V.C. flaps on a silage-stand."


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: GUEST,Guest mandotim out and about
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 06:31 AM

'Stu an Tim: sadly, there is an ever-increasing amount of ignorance, assumption, contradiction and general WAVoholism in your posts.' I can back up every statement I've made about you from your own posts, WAV. I've read all your work, remember. How is that ignorant? Give me an example of contradiction. Show me where I've made an assumption that isn't rooted in something you've posted.
WAVoholism; by this made-up word, I assume you mean I'm addicted to you in some way? Nothing could be further from the truth. The sooner you stop polluting the internet the better as far as I'm concerned.
So, still no answer to my straight question about regulationism, WAV? Surely if you have a manifesto, you should know a little about the policies within it?
Answer please.
By the way;
--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 05:58 AM

WAVophobia is the correct term


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 05:41 AM

Stu an Tim: sadly, there is an ever-increasing amount of ignorance, assumption, contradiction and general WAVoholism in your posts.

Thanks, Dan - "Whalley Abbey" (above) over-looks Pendle Hill, famous for both the Pendle Witches (perhaps still discontent..?!), and the formation of the Quaker movement.

Also, in North-West England...

Poem 113 of 230: FOLLOWING THE SUN - SPRING 2000

Having moved, by buses, up the hill from Salford to Bury
    (To be within walk of new work, again),
These stimuli surround between my abode and the factory
    As I follow the sun - its wax, its wane:
Walking toward work and the rising sun, a morning chorus
    Rides the crisp breezy air of hill-farmland,
While gravel, of road and path, beneath my plonked feet crunches,
    And P.V.C. flaps loose of its hay-stand.

Bumble bees, tree sparrows and robins bob along the hedgerows,
    Squirrels and hares hop ahead on my route;
And on a weather-wrapped reservoir - glassy, or dulled by blows -
    Glide mute- and whooper-swans, ducks, geese and coot;
Horses, goats, sheep and cattle laze and graze on fields of green -
    Fields they, in turn, feed, helping make hay;
And, above, swifts and herons sometimes grace the aerial scene -
    A scene framed by a moorland chain of grey.

Slugs - some rusty, others pitch-black - slither on a clayey path,
    That slopes sharply beside the reservoir;
And a whitegood on green-grass - a horse trough, once a human bath -
    Amuses me as I view from afar;
As does Peel Monument, atop a distant Holecombe mount -
    By which an uncle and I once took lunch;
Disturbed nettles - brushed in such distraction - make their bulwarks count,
    And a shed-side arbour demands a hunch.

One time, three sheep-dogs determined me lost, and rounded me up;
    Oftentimes, the Metro. tram rattles by;
And, sometimes, a horse will urge me make handy a grassy cup,
    Or nudge for a scratch down its back and thigh;
On cooler mornings, the dew on grasses soaks my joggers through,
    But beautifies clumps of whimsy grass-heads;
And, already proceeding on his routine of chores to do,
    A farmer strong-hoses out the cowsheds.

Caravan-people leave their grouping to walk the well-worn track,
    And milk- and mail-vans squeeze tightly by;
Antique farm-machines rust away in a grassed ramshackle-stack,
    And pigeons startle from their grassy lie;                                                
In sun, fishing-people and bathers dot the reservoir's shore,
    And, in shade, ferns the sides of path and stream;
Near gates, manure fills the air and makes stepping a chore,
    But elsewhere the views are a poet's dream.

Magpies, near horses, bop around - perhaps for aroused worms;
    Laburnums sprung yellow, and hawthorns white,
Pleasingly, in nature, border the fields of farming-firms,
    And help enclose this Radcliffe rural site;
Plus, as I meander home from a day's factory toil,
    The sun, when it sets in a clear sky,
Forms a large amber ball, behind a converted cotton-mill -
    Signalling another day almost by.

(C) David Franks 2003
From WalkaboutsVerse


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:37 PM

I don't know, but I like this one from David, I don't understand the last part about the "fill" but I like the images. Kinda like modern art, not traditional , unique .. I like breaking the mold and going outside the traditional .. doing something not like everyone else ... thats kinda cool ...actually





Cistercian monks have clearly been -
    Their Abbey's ruins can still be seen;
And, sounding for centuries before,
    Calder flows have passed - seeking the shore.
Lords of the grounds have, more lately, stayed -
    Their manor houses reused and unscathed.
Through beautiful gardens insects fly -
    The ruins of folk just a pass-by;
And, by viaduct, trains pass above -
    Folk thereby viewing a town I love.
Anglers and C. of E. delegates,
    Hikers and tourists, have crossed the gates...
Opportunistic masons, kings-men,
    Model makers, Turner, and men who pen...
Perhaps the witches came down from the hill,
    And do ghosts haunt - still questing their fill..?


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:11 PM

WAV; which bit of 'without resorting to re-hashing one of your godawful 'poems'.' don't you understand? I asked you for a definition. At best, your life's work contains half-baked examples drawn from your own fantasy world and a series of nonsensical opinions. Definition please, preferably with fully referenced citations from the political literature. After all, you do have a degree in Humanities, this stuff should be childs play for an educated man like you! Which makes it all the more surprising that;
--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 04:08 PM

You will find about 350 instances of Global Regulationism on Google. Guess who authored 349 of them...

What did prophets do before spamming the world with repetitive and ill considered rubbish.

WAV I try to be charitable, honestly. I just find it hard to stomach your continuous objectionable tosh.

I'm sure your CV will get you to the odd interview. I can't see how you will ever progress beyond that point. I speak as an interviewer of some experience.

Sadly, I think most people now respond to you in irritated frustration instead of the welcoming help which was offered to you in early times here.

Sadly

Stu


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 01:25 PM

Tim: "Global Regulationism", actually one of my profile e.g. poems, is very different from "fascism" which derives from a dictatorial Italian party opposed to communism, and, as you may have noticed, has been used by the media, on both sides of the pond, during the economic downturn - but don't forget where you heard it first!


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: Smedley
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 12:44 PM

Stu, I couldn't aspire to the demanding burden of explicating all of WAV's views. But I might offer a 'ditty' from time to time.


Twas on a Thursday afternoon
I read that post of Stu's
But I can only rhyme when I'm
Fellated by the Muse


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: mandotim
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 12:37 PM

'Tim - apart from the poem "Global Regulationism" itself, this idea is manifest throughout much of my manifesto in verse.'
Listen, dimwit; simply saying something should happen is not a definition. Your alleged 'verse' does not define the term; and don't forget, I've read every word of your sad 'life's work'. I asked you for a clear definition of 'regulationism'as a phiosophy; a system of thought, if you like. I have reasons; I think you mean 'fascism', but I'd be happy for you to prove me wrong. Once again; what is your definition of 'regulationism'? Oh, and by the way;
--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 12:33 PM

MANIFESTO IN VERSE???????

This may well be the biggest laugh yet. A manifesto? In verse?

First, your ideas and opinions are so muddled, puerile, and poorly thought out that they lack any form of useful logic making your manifesto horseshit with flies.   The fact that they are filled with bigoted statements which you seem to think are perfectly okay adds only to the laugh quotient.

In verse? You have yet to prove that you can actually write verse that isn't simply garbled blatherings assembled by a child.

Grow up. Go to work. Quit wasting your time here. Take Mudcat out of your day. You have already posted your manifesto repeatedly on these threads. Have you no shame? It is evident you have no ambition, no logic, no real world experience, no form of adult thought.................So at long last, have you no shame?

--Your 'poetry' sucks
--It has been posted repeatedly before
--It is full of bigoted and racist statements
--That which isn't racist is often incredibly juvenile
--It is obvious to most that you have limited knowledge of the world, especially considering your supposed travels.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
From: s&r
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 12:29 PM

'Stu - see Brother Smedley'


.Smedley -= thanks for clarifying WAV's POV. (Good poem by the way)

Following your appointment as WAV's spokesperson, could you clarify some other points"

Stu


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