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BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...

MarkS 22 Feb 09 - 10:45 PM
kendall 23 Feb 09 - 06:01 AM
Bobert 23 Feb 09 - 07:55 AM
Charmion 23 Feb 09 - 02:54 PM
Peace 23 Feb 09 - 06:21 PM
Bobert 23 Feb 09 - 06:33 PM
Richard Bridge 23 Feb 09 - 06:53 PM
Bill D 23 Feb 09 - 07:19 PM
Riginslinger 23 Feb 09 - 07:38 PM
Bobert 23 Feb 09 - 08:15 PM
Riginslinger 23 Feb 09 - 09:47 PM
kendall 24 Feb 09 - 08:10 AM
GUEST,Edthefolkie 24 Feb 09 - 02:01 PM
Riginslinger 24 Feb 09 - 07:08 PM
kendall 24 Feb 09 - 08:57 PM
frogprince 24 Feb 09 - 09:18 PM
Riginslinger 24 Feb 09 - 09:21 PM
Ron Davies 24 Feb 09 - 11:50 PM
Riginslinger 25 Feb 09 - 06:17 PM
Bat Goddess 25 Feb 09 - 07:08 PM
Bobert 25 Feb 09 - 07:29 PM
kendall 26 Feb 09 - 03:53 PM
Donuel 26 Feb 09 - 04:10 PM
Ed T 26 Feb 09 - 06:27 PM
Bobert 26 Feb 09 - 06:40 PM
Donuel 26 Feb 09 - 09:20 PM
Bat Goddess 27 Feb 09 - 09:16 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: MarkS
Date: 22 Feb 09 - 10:45 PM

68 GTO. It's in my driveway right now.

Bobert, still got your Falcon? We can settle this!

But be warned

400 with hot cam, 900cfm Edelbrock, back cut valves, electronic ignition, forged pistons, all rotating parts balanced to 9000 rpm,
3.90 posi, shift kit, 2200 rpm stall converter, his/hers, and a partridge in a pear tree!

Mark

On second thought, what with gas prices being what they are today, maybe we should just compete electronically!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: kendall
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 06:01 AM

I haven't checked but I suspect that the float bowl is also draining into the manifold so the whole fuel system is dryer than a Baptist picnic after sitting idle for a month or so.

Electric fuel pump! Bite your tongue!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 07:55 AM

Mark,

Wish I did... Google up '65 Falcon, 271 h.p and you'll find that there were only 7 of them made so I wish I still did have it 'cause it would be worth one heck of alot of money...

Actually, I never did "own" it... It was technically owned by Ford Motot Company, as were all the cars we had up until my dad retired...

But nice little Goat ya got there, Mark... Based on ay you've said, if it's set up right sounds like a 10 second drag car so, hey, I'll just take a pass on that one while I get ahold of this old boy, Bobby Short, and see if he still has his 427 Comet Cyclone... That was a bad motor scooter...

I agree, Capt'n... Sounds like yer gas is bleeding down into the intake and evaporating during long periods of inactivity...

Just remember this when it comes to womenz and cars: If ya' don't do yer homework, someone else will...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Charmion
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 02:54 PM

My father had a 1964 (perhaps '65) Pontiac Laurentian station wagon that covered an acre standing and an acre and a half moving. It wasn't new when it joined our family, and it finally met its end in the late '70s when Dad sold it as "a 283 GM engine in excellent condition surrounded by a crumbling station wagon". It was the only car my mother ever managed to drive -- don't ask me how; the thing was at least 18 feet long. Of course, she didn't drive it well, and she eventually killed it -- broke the frame, which was severely weakened by more than a decade of Ottawa winter road salt -- by walloping the back end against the stone foundation of the Bytown Museum.

You could put a family of six quite comfortably in that car for a two-week road trip, and it would sleep two adults comfortably in the cargo space with the back seat let down. I'd hate to have to park it -- let alone gas it up -- today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Peace
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 06:21 PM

First car I drove was a Corvair. Didn't get caught, either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 06:33 PM

What???

No license, I'd bet...

I know all about that... My mom had a purdy nice '54 Ford that I had keys for and everytime that my folks would go out for the evening in my dad's "new" Ford, me and da' gang would sneak the '54 out... I was about 13 years old and could barely reach the pedals while looking over the dash board but, what the heck... Then she got a brand new shiney 60 Falcon... Lot easier to see over the dash in that car...

So that summer, we were goin' on vacation so I left the keys to the Falcon with my buddy, Jim Clark, so he could sneak it out while we were away... Problem is that a snooty neighbor, who knew that my family was on vacation, called the police when she saw the car being driven away from the house...

Got me a purdy decent butt whup by my dad fir that boneheaded stunt... Jim Clark didn't do much better...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 06:53 PM

No relation to the great grand prix driver for Lotus of that name?

That's actually pretty bad Bobert, I have friends who have a borderline "special" son who lent his friends the keys for his mother's car, which they then wrapped into oncoming traffic, and now she is being charged by the police with permitting the use of a vehicle without insurance (since of course the insurance was invalidated).

I was a bad boy at university, with cars and bikes, but I didn't dump the car owners in it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 07:19 PM

I knew the woman who bought the 1st Corvair sold in Wichita. They opened the showroom 1st day, and she walked in and said "I want one.". They didn't expect to anything but show off that day. She was SO sorry,,,suspension went bad and wheels wouldn't track. She fought it for over a year, and then got a bunch of money back under the warrant, I think.

I had to deal with a Corvair for awhile. uggghh.. things went wrong. It ran and handled ok...while it was running but...it had some of the same problems as above.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 07:38 PM

Historically speaking, it seems to me like Oldsmobile was the more signficant loss. Wasn't Olds one of the very first automobiles in America?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 08:15 PM

Listen, Richard... I was 13 years old at the time, goldnaged it... I just heard on NPR that 13 year old's brains ain't all that developed... Of course, mine never did ripen...lol...

Shame on you, Bill... I bet you have an autographed "Unsafe at Any Speed"... Nothin' wrong with the Corvair... Great car... Okay, the fan belt's had issues but, hey, who cares... You could put the sumabich back on with 1 9/16th open end wrench... Or was it 5/8s... No matter... Great car...

Oh???

Yers leaked oil???

Yeah, okay the pre-64s di leak a little oil... No reason to go mean-mouthin' the best Chevy that was ever built...

(Best Chevy ever built, Boberdz??? That is a stretch...)

Hey, it beat the Vega, the Monza, the Citation, the Chevette, the 350 deisels, the Cavaliers, tec. all to heck and back...

I'm with Rigs... Get rid of the Oldsmobiles... They ahve always been junk... That's why the only folks who have ever bought them were our grandfatehrs who suffer from half-heimerz... No one in their right mind would buy an Oldsmobile...

(Thats why they call them "Olds"mobiles, Bobz...)

Oh???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 09:47 PM

Bobert - I think they've been gone for a while now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: kendall
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 08:10 AM

I don't know what happened to my other post on Oldsmobiles. It went somewhere. Anyway,

The curved dash Oldsmobile was built around the turn of the century by a man named Ransom E Olds. Later on he sold the name and in time he went back into business using his initials, REO. Now you know.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 02:01 PM

I wish I still had my (1966?) copy of the British magazine "CAR" in which Doug Blain did a road test comparison between a Pontiac GTO and Henry Manney III's Ferrari GTO. It's the most outrageously funny piece of car journalism I've ever read, with some fantastic photos.

The article started as a parody of "The Sot-Weed Factor" by John Barth and the first few lines were on the cover (well it was the 60's.) Blain made great play of the Pontiac being a total pussycat until the loud pedal was pressed down more than a certain amount, when a banshee howl came from under the bonnet and loud chirps from the rear tyres, signalling the necessity for handfuls of steering wheel to be grabbed instantly.

Later they road tested a Mk 1 Toronado! I can only presume that the magazine used to wine and dine importers pretty well to be able to get hold of these vehicles in the UK.

Anybody know what happened to Blyne? (He was Australian)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 07:08 PM

kendall - Was that the same REO that made trucks? It seems like they merged with Diamond-T. I had an old cabover truck one time that was a Diamond-REO.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: kendall
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 08:57 PM

Yes I believe it was.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: frogprince
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 09:18 PM

But Diamond Rio is a country group, and their name is a complete coincidence...


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 09:21 PM

Boy, that's hard to believe. Is it possible that somebody passed a Diamond-REO on the highway and it came to them in a dream?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 11:50 PM

"The Sot-Weed Factor" is a fantastic book--in all senses of the word. Especially the various journal entries on what really happened with Pocahontas. Absolutely classic.

Using that book as jump-off spot, that article must have been great.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 06:17 PM

Speaking of dreams, what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 07:08 PM

Two out of the three cars I originally learned to drive on in the '60s were Pontiacs. (The third was a 1961 Buick LeSabre.)

The first fellow I was engaged to had a Bonneville convertible. Threw my engagement ring out of that window more times than I care to remember.

The car in Drivers Ed was also a Pontiac.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 07:29 PM

Yeah, Bat-Linn, but didja marry the dude anyway???


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: kendall
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 03:53 PM

Maybe you should have kept the ring and thrown the dude out the window.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 04:10 PM

I had a Pontiac Bonneville with Eagle GTs that always sounded like a race car.
It handled well but heavy when going over 100 mph.
At 10 mph with the sunroof open at night while traveling through nature preserves was the car's best times.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Ed T
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 06:27 PM

The Solstice is nice, that would just leave the Saturn Sky in the class....unless Saturn folds also.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 06:40 PM

Word on the street is that Saturn is history... I mean, Saturn dealer are looking for imports to sell when Saturn is no longer...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 09:20 PM

Ever see a Buick Reatta?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 27 Feb 09 - 09:16 AM

Nah -- never intended to marry him. One night he insisted on me saying I'd marry him before he'd take me home (say it, not DO it). I finally got extremely tired of the situation and said "yes" but told him not to count on it. He decided to go into debt to buy me a 3/4 carat blue white diamond knowing full well I really don't like diamonds.

By the way, I was 17 and a senior in high school.

I didn't want to marry him, but at the time I didn't want to break up with him -- but the "engagement" exagerated the tedium (of dating him), so -- surprise surprise -- we broke up permanently a few months later in what was a very tempestuous "engagement".

By the way, when I told my parents Robert had given me a ring, they threw me against the kitchen wall and wouldn't even LISTEN to my statement that I had no intention of marrying him.

Ach! I was young and stupid.

But not so stupid that I'd actually set up housekeeping with him -- even if he did drive a Bonneville convertible.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 27 Feb 09 - 10:30 PM

Yeah, well, we've all been young and stupid!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 07:45 AM

Wish I had done like you, Linn, but no... I had to go thru with the ordeal... lol...

Now back to Pontiacs and other related ot unrelated nonsense...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bye, bye, Pontiac...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 09:57 AM

Sometime after Al Gore invented the internet, Barack Obama got a hold of the notion that America invented the automobile.


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