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The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)

GUEST,Brian Grayson 17 Feb 21 - 05:43 AM
GUEST 13 Feb 21 - 06:31 PM
FreddyHeadey 05 Feb 21 - 06:11 PM
GUEST 01 Feb 21 - 07:51 PM
Jim Carroll 08 Mar 20 - 08:04 PM
GUEST,CJB 08 Mar 20 - 07:13 PM
rich-joy 05 Mar 20 - 09:38 PM
Jim Carroll 05 Mar 20 - 12:09 PM
GUEST,CJB 05 Mar 20 - 11:39 AM
Jim Carroll 05 Mar 20 - 03:24 AM
Hagman 05 Mar 20 - 02:44 AM
GUEST 03 Mar 20 - 05:01 PM
GUEST 14 Aug 19 - 05:56 PM
Jim Carroll 15 Feb 19 - 05:54 AM
GUEST,Guest - CJB 15 Feb 19 - 05:51 AM
GUEST,Guest - CJB 15 Feb 19 - 05:42 AM
GUEST,Apcwmwl 29 Aug 17 - 02:54 PM
GUEST,Sydney guest 24 May 16 - 01:39 AM
GUEST,Guest 22 Jan 16 - 09:55 AM
GUEST,Apcwmwl 04 Dec 15 - 03:45 PM
GUEST,CJB 06 Apr 15 - 10:05 AM
GUEST,Simon Roberts 05 Apr 15 - 10:56 AM
GUEST,CJB 17 Mar 15 - 06:35 PM
Irene M 17 Mar 15 - 04:04 PM
GUEST 16 Mar 15 - 04:38 PM
GUEST,CJB 24 Feb 15 - 12:08 PM
GUEST,CJB 21 Feb 15 - 07:36 PM
Irene M 21 Feb 15 - 02:44 PM
GUEST 21 Feb 15 - 07:52 AM
maeve 21 Feb 15 - 07:24 AM
GUEST,CJB 21 Feb 15 - 07:11 AM
GUEST 25 Jun 10 - 08:21 AM
Amos 01 May 09 - 09:44 AM
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maeve 19 Mar 09 - 07:52 AM
GUEST,Norman McLeod 19 Mar 09 - 05:47 AM
ard mhacha 16 Feb 09 - 01:37 PM
GUEST,John Turtle 15 Feb 09 - 06:07 PM
Irene M 15 Feb 09 - 06:02 AM
Jim Carroll 11 Feb 09 - 03:38 AM
GUEST,Edthefolkie 10 Feb 09 - 06:13 PM
johnadams 10 Feb 09 - 05:58 PM
Irene M 10 Feb 09 - 03:35 PM
Bonnie Shaljean 10 Feb 09 - 11:25 AM
johnadams 10 Feb 09 - 11:20 AM
Fred McCormick 10 Feb 09 - 10:38 AM
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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST,Brian Grayson
Date: 17 Feb 21 - 05:43 AM

Got TLMOE from Dropbox (gratitude and thanks!) and have ordered the book from AbeBooks at a very reasonable price.

Jim Carroll mentioned another series, 'The British Seamen',and I came across references to 'Plain Tales from the Raj', both of which I'd love to find... he said, with ill-feigned greed.

Any clues greatly appreciated...


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 06:31 PM

Thanks. Closest version I've heard so far.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 05 Feb 21 - 06:11 PM

Guest ^ "Paddy on the railway"

idk, it sounds like a 'final chord' after the second verse.
Have you heard the one on bandcamp?
Ewan MacColl, banjo, all the verses but solo rather than with the other singers,,,

https://ewanmaccoll.bandcamp.com/track/poor-paddy-works-on-the-railway-2

(for comparison it's at ~4:55 in the Ringing Grooves programme(Jim's link above))


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 07:51 PM

Does anyone know if a complete version of the song "Paddy on the railway" in "The ringing grooves of change" (episode 18) exists? I much prefer the way it is sung in this episode to all the other versions of this song you can find on youtube etc.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Mar 20 - 08:04 PM

Did you get on any further with 'The British Seaman' Chris ?
An equally important and entertaining seriesd from the same stable, fior those who don't know it
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 08 Mar 20 - 07:13 PM

The series was also aired in OZ.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: rich-joy
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 09:38 PM

Many Thanks, Jim - and Chris - very much appreciated.

Cheers,
Rich-Joy
Down Under


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 12:09 PM

Thanks Chris - your blood's worth bottling, as they say over here
Hope the Heathrow fiasco worked out for you
Best
Jim


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:39 AM

The entire set from Jim Carrol is here:

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/wdardb60tme2d/The_Long_March_Of_Everyman_-_Jim_Carroll

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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 03:24 AM

We have the entire series for download, for anybody interested - PM me
Will be in touch when I have time Helen (rather busy at present)
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: Hagman
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 02:44 AM

The post above from Guest on 22 Jan 2016 has still-active links, including the first episode.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Mar 20 - 05:01 PM

Hello
Is it still possible to obtain recorded episodes from this life-changing series?
I am particularly keen to obtain the first episode.
Thanks
Helen
helennw10@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Aug 19 - 05:56 PM

Just found this thread and the Dropbox source of the recordings.
Great to find this as a 'companion' to my treasured copy of "Plain Tales from the Raj".
Nigel


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Feb 19 - 05:54 AM

I though I had a full sett of Everyman CJB - I'll check later today
I though you had
Can't remember if I have your e-mail, but if I have I'll contact you - have a little more I feel you should have
Jim


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST,Guest - CJB
Date: 15 Feb 19 - 05:51 AM

BTW - there were two sets on various cloud sites - one from JC and one from one Simon in Australia. Both sets have been deleted without reference to the uploader(s). It seems likely that the Beeb issued a take down notice.

If anyne wants to grab the set on Dropbox do so NOW.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman (BBC Radio 4 Series)
From: GUEST,Guest - CJB
Date: 15 Feb 19 - 05:42 AM

Sadly that dropbox set is incomplete in that many of the files are truncated. And some have a gap in the mddle from a 'cassette turnover event.' What we need is a definitive and comete set. Any offers please?


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,Apcwmwl
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 02:54 PM

TWIMC::::
Whoever you are GUEST, many thanks for depositing the complete series in DropBox which gives access to all. If you care to look at the BBC Genome of programme credits, I am the Norman McLeod of the first 6 episodes, & I spent many an hour honing down the contributions of Charles Parker's voices of the ordinary people before anything was ready to be compiled - and that was done by running 3 tape machines in manual sync.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,Sydney guest
Date: 24 May 16 - 01:39 AM

Anyone know where the recording of the presumably massive stationary steam engine was made ? It is magnificent.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 22 Jan 16 - 09:55 AM

See:

http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?adv=0&q=long+march+of+everyman#search

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pqeh5d3z22mqsqi/AACfdOSThnROzsEflSz_1Icba?dl=0


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,Apcwmwl
Date: 04 Dec 15 - 03:45 PM

Visited Birmingham Library and the Charles Parker Archive. It seems that it contains complete original recordings on CD of at least 19 of the 26 episodes, but whether they are complete??? I intend signing up as a reader & accessing in the new year. If they are complete, I will press BBC to release as package - I think that the Beeb still own copyright. Wish me luck!


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 06 Apr 15 - 10:05 AM

I fully concur with Simon's sentiments - he was instrumental in rescuing the series from oblivion long before others had the idea of home-taping such programmes. And it is even more remarkable that the series was taped in Australia.

Simon should be well congratulated for donating copies to folks some of whom even developed and contribruted to the series.

In the search for surviving recordings we discovered that there are three sets around:

1/ Simon's as he describes above - recorded from AM in Australia

1a/ The same files obtained and distributed via various means by one Bob129

2/ Jim Carroll (of MacColl's Critics Group) - recorded from FM in England (before his move to Miltown Malbay in Co. Clare) - who kindly sent me a set a few weeks ago.

3/ Doc. Rowe - also likely recorded from FM in England.

Of these the most widely distributed has been Simon's set - at his own expense too.

So Simon must be given all credit for not only recording and rescuing this 'lost' series but also for pioneering the bringing back of the episodes into the public domain - where of course they really belong.

Thank you - Simon.
CJB.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,Simon Roberts
Date: 05 Apr 15 - 10:56 AM

No, it's definitely ' A Sigh on the Harp'. The title is taken from The Gododdin, the poem about the Battle of Catraeth quoted in the episode - 'There was blood on hair and a sigh on the harp', is the line.

I am the Simon above who made the current recordings from the Australian broadcast. I do want to make it clear though that the set floating about with the 26 titled episodes is the one that I have been supplying to people who seem to have found it via this thread largely. There are some episodes recorded by another listener in Ireland (which are in stereo/simulated stereo, as true stereo was not used in the early 70s for this show) but mine was the only full set located so far. I must however correct the post above - there isn't a third set from R4 in stereo - that report was of another person with a set of my recordings, which are tape captures from AM mono ABC RN (the Australian equivalent to Radio 4) broadcasting nationwide some time in the late 80s (I can't remember when it was exactly but I was still at high school so approx 1984-1988). The recordings aren't bad and reasonably clear but are definitely not stereo. (At the time in Australia I seem to remember that ABC RN were not broadcasting on the FM band unlike their sister station ABC FM, which was the same as BBC Radio 3)


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 06:35 PM

The series is listed in the BBC's Radio Times Genome database.

One small point is that episode 2 is:

The Long March of Everyman 2 - A Sigh On the Harp - Celtic   Britain.mp3

Is that really 'sigh' or should it be 'sign'?


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Irene M
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 04:04 PM

Wow. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 15 - 04:38 PM

A definitive set is now at:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pqeh5d3z22mqsqi/AACfdOSThnROzsEflSz_1Icba

Get them whilst you can.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 24 Feb 15 - 12:08 PM

Good news - the third set is in stereo - likely from BBC R4 FM. All three sets are soon to be made available to anyone who wants to create a definitive set. Please be patient. CJB.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 21 Feb 15 - 07:36 PM

We have audios from Australia - in AM mono; and from Ireland in FM stereo. These have to be merged to make one definitive set.

Sadly the more pristine recordings in the Charles Parker Archive in Birmingham are not accessible to us.

Re: the Australian set - the episodes 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 have missing parts in the middle due to tape turnover events.

Re: the Irish set - there are apparently some recordings with radio noise, and one or two episodes are unlistenable. These eps. have yet to be identified.

Meanwhile a third set has been discovered and is to be uploaded to DropBox. But this set is in mono apparently and may be related to the Australian set.

The aim of the merge is to reconstruct as good a set as can be made for sending back to the Beeb, the British Library, and other archives (with permission).

Actually if anyone fancies this rather time consuming job please leave a message here.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Irene M
Date: 21 Feb 15 - 02:44 PM

Cor!
Will watch with interest.
Would love to hear this again.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Feb 15 - 07:52 AM

Two sets of recordings have been located. It is hoped that these can be merged to form as a complete set as possible.

Here's the list of the episodes:

The Long March of Everyman 1 - Green Land, Red Bricks, Britons
and Romans and Beginnings.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 10 - The Holy War - Roundheads and
Cavaliers and Everyman.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 11 - A Nation of Shopkeepers - The
Businessman in the 17th and 18th Centuries.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 12 - The British Gentleman - Country
House, Town Mansion in the 18th and 19th Centuries.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 13 - Arcadia - The British Countryside Before The Industrial Revolution.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 14 - The Iron Machine.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 15 - The Dignity of Danger - Nelson
and Wellington to Trooper Kirk of the Light Brigade.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 16 - True Born Britons - Everyman
Reacts to the Ideas of the French Revolution.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 17 - The Two Nations - Industrialisation and its Discontents.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 18 - The Ringing Grooves of Change -
The Steam Engine Gets Up and Runs in the Railway Age.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 19 - Wayfarers - Everyman the Traveller.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 2 - A Sigh On the Harp - Celtic   Britain.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 20 - Poverty and Progress - High
Victorian Britain.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 21 - High Imperial Noon.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 22 - The Inferno.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 23 - Hunger March - The Twenties and
Thirties.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 24 - Semi Detached - Middle Class
Britain Between the Wars.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 25 - The People's War and Peace -
World War II and After.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 26 - Between Two Worlds - Our Own
Changing Society.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 3 - Alfred's Jewel - Anglo-Saxon England.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 4 - Horsemen - The Mediaeval Knight.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 5 - Village Church.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 6 - Ploughmen - The Mediaeval   Peasant.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 7 - The Sheep Hath Paid for All -
Masters and Men in Late Mediaeval Britain.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 8 - Madrigal for Mixed Voices - The
New Age of Elizabeth.mp3

The Long March of Everyman 9 - London.mp3

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Apparently the source material and scripts are here - but access is restricted:

http://calmview.birmingham.gov.uk/CalmView/Overview.aspx?s=long%20march%20of%20everyman

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There is more about Michael Mason (RIP) here:

http://www.ex-bbc.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1405000869/0

====

CJB


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: maeve
Date: 21 Feb 15 - 07:24 AM

As said in your new thread, Mudcat crashed. Nobody has "removed" anything. See thread: "Tech- Mudcat crashed." for more information.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 21 Feb 15 - 07:11 AM

The latest posts from Feb 2005 seem to be missing. There is a lot of news re: this series. But posts are not worth uploading if they are going to be removed. Not good.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jun 10 - 08:21 AM

I have all eps of The Long March of Everyman in good quality audio.

I am on phillipbethell@ntlworld.com.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 09 - 09:44 AM

I have to add that this is one of the most intriguing thread titles in the history of the 'Cat!


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 09 - 05:29 PM

Addtionally to 'Bob Blair' who emailed me for a copy, I have received your email but on sending a reply I am receiving an error message telling me that your email address was rejected/undeliverable. Try emailing from another account or check your email settings.
Simon


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 09 - 03:13 PM

I have MP3 copies of the entire series in mono only (tape recorded from an AM broadcast in Australia about 20 years ago). Hope the Beeb see sense and rebroadcast it. Anyone who wants a copy, email me at the_killing_house@yahoo.co.uk, Simon


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: maeve
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 07:52 AM

I am also interested in a copy of this program when it is possible.

Thank you,
maeve


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,Norman McLeod
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 05:47 AM

Yes - that Norman Mcleod. I was seconded to Radiophonic Workshop to compile, edit and sort out the material for a large number of the episodes. Initially, we were going to produce it in stereo, and all the incidental material was recorded for this. The opening of the programmes was indeed an excerpt from "Job" by Vaughan Williams, with then R3 announcer Cormac Rigby. David Cain and I mixed the first 5 full programmes by running 3 Philips 1/4" machines in sync. Each programme had to be completed in one or two passes, since it was virtually impossible to re-sync the machines half way through.
On my first day in RW I was presented with over 1000 5" reels of tape from Charles Parker, who spent his time driving through Britain in a clapped out Land Rover gathering "The voices of the peoples of Britain". There were many occasions when he stopped in the middle of nowhere & ran into a field with Uher under arm, stopped someone in the middle of ploughing, and got them to read - if they could - or repeat after him, lines of the script.
It all became worthwhile and satisfying when the first programme fell together some 5 months after I started.
Enough info for now.
Of the names - David Cain has retired to Poland. Michael Mason is no longer with us. Libby Maude is Libby Spurrier - now with Loftus Productions. Dick Mills, Lloyd Siverthorne et al will remember the series, and maybe Dick has copies of those he worked on.

At one stage the whole series was due to be released commercially by Argo, then part of Decca.
The original tapes may well still be in existence, and the final broadcast scripts certainly will. Access to BBC Archives would be useful.
Any further information would be useful.
Norman McLeod


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: ard mhacha
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 01:37 PM

The book can still be had at Alibris UK.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,John Turtle
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 06:07 PM

Michael Mason's approach, I remember, was to get real people in similar jobs to speak words that might well have been said by their ancestors. Hence the Cries of London were performed by the newspaper seller, whose stand (literally) was at the front of the Langham Hotel, then a BBC building, opposite Broadcasting House, and his family and friends. He was eager to help when I approached him (it's so long ago now I've forgotten his name). There were about ten contributors, I remember in training studio LH5 on the 4th floor when Anne Catchpole and I recorded them. Most worked in street markets - and they were brilliant. No professional actor could have achieved authenticity like that.

John Turtle


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Irene M
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 06:02 AM

Ah, but when you are in your teens, 45 minutes FEELS like an hour.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 03:38 AM

"What? TWENTY SIX hours of tape? "
No; the programmes are 45 minutes long.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 06:13 PM

As soon as I saw this thread my failing memory cells went "zap"! Which is remarkable as my poor old Mum died a couple of days ago and I currently resemble a spaced out brain on legs. Those programmes were splendid - I know why now looking at the people involved, thanks Fred! Think I listened to some of them on a portable radio placed precariously on the nearside seat of a Wolseley Land Crab while trundling between Croydon and Wembley.

Wasn't a snippet from Vaughan Williams' 'Job - a Masque for Dancing' used to introduce the programme each week? Or have the above sad circumstances finally cooked my cortex?


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: johnadams
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 05:58 PM

Probably 26 mp3 files?


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Irene M
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 03:35 PM

What? TWENTY SIX hours of tape?


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 11:25 AM

Bob -

ME me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me

I see you're not a member so you can't PM me (send a Personal Message through the website) but my email, should you want it, is:

my name as it appears above, no spaces or dots, {a t} g m a i l {d o t} c 0 m

Brill - thanks so much!


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: johnadams
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 11:20 AM

Me too please Bob. If you want to share the work, I'm set up for dealing with archive audio.

J


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 10:38 AM

Hi Bob,

Deffo. Count me in. Many thanks.

Ard Mhacha. The poem you identify is on p212 of the Andre Deutsch 1978 edition. The 4 lines there are identical to what you've got, and there's a source which says:

(Anonymous poem from Liverpool, BBC Archive Disc). Unfortunately, the book doesn't give the disc No or say who recorded it.


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: GUEST,Guest - Bob Blair
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 09:49 AM

OK. No-one else has come up with an offer of better quality recordings.

I've now got a mixture of recordings that I'll sort out one of these days.

If those that are interested in a complete set indicate their desire to me then I'll see what can be done (in the long term)

Bob Blair


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: ard mhacha
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 06:03 AM

A brilliant Radio series I never missed a broadcast, I was leafing through the book in the summer, published by Penguin in 1975.
I remember one stanza from a Liverpool poem from around the 1930s, relevant to to-days woes,
      "Just watch those children sitting on the dockyard wall,

       Watching their father do nothing at all,

      Some day or others they`ll be dockyarders too,
       Just like their fathers with nothing to do".


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Subject: RE: The Long March of Everyman
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 05:50 AM

Hi Bob,

A certain person, no names of course, did a sterling job of issuing The Song Carriers recently. If that same person could do something similar with TLOEM, it might not go down well with the bland bastards, but his immortality would be guaranteed among those who matter.

Sod the sound quality. It's the material that's important.


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