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Georgiansilver 25 May 08 - 03:31 PM
Waddon Pete 25 May 08 - 12:45 PM
Waddon Pete 23 May 08 - 06:18 AM
open mike 21 May 08 - 04:47 PM
open mike 21 May 08 - 03:39 PM
My guru always said 21 May 08 - 03:39 AM
Rowan 20 May 08 - 07:03 PM
GUEST 20 May 08 - 05:43 PM
Harmonium Hero 20 May 08 - 03:14 PM
JeZeBeL 20 May 08 - 09:24 AM
Georgiansilver 20 May 08 - 06:57 AM
Banjiman 20 May 08 - 03:22 AM
Rex 19 May 08 - 11:54 PM
open mike 19 May 08 - 03:45 PM
open mike 19 May 08 - 03:36 PM
open mike 19 May 08 - 03:18 PM
frogprince 19 May 08 - 10:33 AM
GUEST,Janice now in Western NY State 19 May 08 - 08:55 AM
My guru always said 19 May 08 - 04:27 AM
Banjiman 19 May 08 - 03:49 AM
GUEST,The Painted Lady 19 May 08 - 03:45 AM
Liz the Squeak 19 May 08 - 03:20 AM
freda underhill 18 May 08 - 10:33 PM
SINSULL 18 May 08 - 07:05 PM
Big Al Whittle 18 May 08 - 03:36 PM
Waddon Pete 18 May 08 - 10:07 AM
John MacKenzie 18 May 08 - 04:58 AM
Rowan 17 May 08 - 10:14 PM
Harmonium Hero 17 May 08 - 05:38 PM
Big Al Whittle 17 May 08 - 03:55 PM
Harmonium Hero 17 May 08 - 03:33 PM
Harmonium Hero 17 May 08 - 01:54 PM
Big Al Whittle 17 May 08 - 05:00 AM
Slag 17 May 08 - 04:39 AM
Liz the Squeak 17 May 08 - 03:53 AM
Rowan 17 May 08 - 02:54 AM
Big Al Whittle 16 May 08 - 04:13 PM
John MacKenzie 16 May 08 - 04:12 PM
GUEST,Songster Bob 16 May 08 - 04:10 PM
gnu 16 May 08 - 01:42 PM
John MacKenzie 16 May 08 - 11:55 AM
Splott Man 16 May 08 - 11:43 AM
John MacKenzie 16 May 08 - 10:53 AM
GUEST,Painted Lady 16 May 08 - 10:49 AM
topical tom 16 May 08 - 10:09 AM
sapper82 16 May 08 - 07:59 AM
Surreysinger 16 May 08 - 05:47 AM
Waddon Pete 16 May 08 - 05:40 AM
Splott Man 16 May 08 - 03:44 AM
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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 May 08 - 03:31 PM

I think we should all fix a point at which to meet in perhaps a couple of years time.....then having time to prepare...we can all be there..........how about it?


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 25 May 08 - 12:45 PM

Let's bump this up to the top again!


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 23 May 08 - 06:18 AM

Hmmm...interesting,Open Mike....I wonder if Mudcat is equal to the challenge!

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: open mike
Date: 21 May 08 - 04:47 PM

here is a role model for the mudcat music festival:

LIVE EARTH THE LARGEST GLOBAL ENTERTAINMENT EVENT IN HISTORY

More Than 30 Million Live Earth Videos Streamed on MSN by 8 Million People — The Largest Online Audience Ever for an Online Concert. Millions Inspired to "Answer the Call" with Web and SMS Pledges. Approximately One Million People Participated in More Than 10,000 Friends of Live Earth Events in 131 Countries —
the Largest Grassroots Organizing Program in History!


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: open mike
Date: 21 May 08 - 03:39 PM

"It seems there was a world wide event some time back
where at "X" o'clock local time people were supposed to sing a
song--and keep it going around the world..some peace thing i think..
if we could find this we could use it as a model..i believe there
were giant video screens set up so everyone could experience the
concerts...if they were not able to attend in person.."

upon further investigation
and after polling some others,
I believe this is the event i was
thinking about...it happened last July.

http://www.liveearth.org/

http://www.liveearth.org/event.php

while searching for this is found also
http://www.oneearth.org/


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 May 08 - 03:39 AM

HH, I haven't been to Chippenham for a few years but I guess the nearest thing you'll get to a MudGather there would be the Singaround organised by Mr & Mrs Admiral.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Rowan
Date: 20 May 08 - 07:03 PM

You're right, Guest (it's a pity there's no name to distinguish you from other anonymice) and that's what many wish to recreate at Mudcat, even if only digitally.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 08 - 05:43 PM

The folk song revival movement has been littered with affectations, misinformation,
and a kind of musical elitism. Fortunately, the music is bigger than this.

The absurdity of setting of rules by revivalists for folk music is self-evident.

The power of folk comes from the accessibility and community of people who make music for themselves and (like the sand-lot baseball player are participants) rather than observers in this music.

The future of folk music lies not on the concert stage or the myriad CD's hocked at
coffee-houses but when as in a traditional sense, people use folk music as a recreation
collectively. Much of this is done in living rooms, back porches or in the field when some work is done or as lullabies. It has a social basis and defies the isolated "artistic" expression of the solo performer on a stage with a distant audience. The walls often break down in some churches as well (particularly the African-American ones) between solo and congregation. There is something ironically absurd about creating an "art-song" approach to folk music by spending enormous sums of money in a recording studio to foster a "personality". However, much of this music is listenable and enjoyable despite whether it's called folk music or not.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 20 May 08 - 03:14 PM

Rowan: Hi. Haven't got that sorted yet; I still don't know how that notation works. I did a bit of googling, and found out all about Thatcher. Interesting story. I had a look through a couple of books of Aussie songs that I bought a while back, and found three or four of his songs. I also spotted a book of them for sale from a museum in NZ. I might order one when I've got a bit of spare cash. The postage from there is probably a mortgage job! Watch for developments...
Guru: Thanks for that info. I'm not at any of those festivals, although at one stage I thought I was going to be at Upton with an Appalachian team I play for. But we didn't have enough dancers available. Maybe next time. I'll watch out for other Mudgathers. There isn't one at Chippenham, I suppose? I'm ther dancing with Rumworth Morris - and praying for rain; the heat kills me!
John Kelly.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 20 May 08 - 09:24 AM

Where's the music in all of this apart from in the celidhs????


surely mudcat is a mix of singing AND music.......

we should have lots of sessions aswell, but not in rooms next door to sing arounds as it's impolite to play over singers (most of the time!!!)

Some people don't like singarounds......there should def be lots of non stop fast and furious sessions aswell!!


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 20 May 08 - 06:57 AM

Mudcat Folk Festering...already exists!!


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Banjiman
Date: 20 May 08 - 03:22 AM

Sorry frogprince.

I'm with Rex though.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Rex
Date: 19 May 08 - 11:54 PM

There must be banjos.


Rex


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: open mike
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:45 PM

I think this might be the organization and event i was remembering..
http://www.worldpeaceone.com/

if not, it is something close...

here is another concept...http://www.wmgd.net/peacefilm/


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: open mike
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:36 PM

http://www.46664joburg.co.za/pages.php?cid=3
http://www.myspace.com/worldpeace3
http://www.planetpatriot.net/peace_songs.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ESnoAN1nDNE&feature=Responses&parent_video=r2lUdwbK8sk&index=0&playnext=1&playnext_from=RL


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: open mike
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:18 PM

It seems there was a world wide event some time back
where at "X" o'clock local time people were supposed to sing a
song--and keep it going around the world..some peace thing i think..
if we could find this we could use it as a model..i believe there
were giant video screens set up so everyone could experience the
concerts...if they were not able to attend in person..


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: frogprince
Date: 19 May 08 - 10:33 AM

Damnit. Banjiman, what made you think this was the place to link to an ARROWSMITH concert?       :^}


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Janice now in Western NY State
Date: 19 May 08 - 08:55 AM

Mudcat already is a folk festival of sorts.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: My guru always said
Date: 19 May 08 - 04:27 AM

Harmonium Hero: We do already have fringe MudGathers at various festivals in the UK. I organise them at Banbury, Bedworth, Crediton, Alcester & Upton and the organisers allocate a venue for us & pop it in the program. We also publicise them on the Cat! Here's the thread about Banbury 2007 which had a programmed Gather!

At the bigger ones I run (we can get as many as 60 Catters at a Gather) we have a MudRaffle which raises a few £'s to send to Max to help with running costs for the site. We also introduce ourselves, hug a lot, drink beer, eat chocolate (sometimes homemade concoctions so it's always best to ask what's in it first) and have a singaround so we can hear each other!

There are other Catters running them at UK festivals and also ones local to Catters in Scotland, Northern Ireland & Yorkshire, not to mention the EuroGather which I'll get along to one day! There are also Gathers across the Pond and at various locations around the Globe. There's always room for another MudGather, it's just a case of getting organised with the right place & time, then letting us know about it *grin*


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Banjiman
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:49 AM

"No banjos?"

How to disenfranchise your audience.........I find this sort of prejudice absolutely disgusting. As a penance you have to watch the video below.....that'll learn ya!

5th String Jealousy *

Paul




*warning: This video may contain banjos, laughter and slightly flat singing.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: GUEST,The Painted Lady
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:45 AM

FILTH !!!!


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:20 AM

That's all very well, getting the thicker shaft and all so it doesn't bend going in, but how about getting the buggers back out again? When you bang 'em in that far, it takes thighs like an elephant to get them back out again - and then your back goes.

LTS


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: freda underhill
Date: 18 May 08 - 10:33 PM

it's very clear where the centre of Mudcat is - Sydney, Australia. It's equidistant from everywhere....











with emphasis on the distant.

freda


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 May 08 - 07:05 PM

No banjos?


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 May 08 - 03:36 PM

Its a good idea John to put a blue clickie to the sie of the festival and then people who are thinking of coming to see you know where to go.

http://www.angelfire.com/folk/gainsboroughfolk/fest08.html


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 18 May 08 - 10:07 AM

"I suppose we could have a sort of cyberfestival....."

Now that's what I call a good idea....wonder if we could get it to work?

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:58 AM

TARZAN !!! just for LtS.

G


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Rowan
Date: 17 May 08 - 10:14 PM

Go! Johnny Go!

Yeah! And I hope you've got Thatcher's "Look out below" off pat, too.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 17 May 08 - 05:38 PM

Ah stop!
JK


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 May 08 - 03:55 PM

Mike and Sooz are indeed bright stars in the folk firmament.

Go! Johnny Go!

I'm sure you'll play a blinder at Gainsborough. You also are one folk music's bright hopes.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 17 May 08 - 03:33 PM

Been and had my dinner and come back.....I thought, what we COULD do is to arrange fringe events at festivals where there are enough of us. Mind you, I can't afford to get to them as a punter, and still haven't found out how you get booked - a phenomenon that has been puzzling a lot of people for a long time. Mind you, I have been invited to Gainsborough this year. Obviously one of the more go-ahead festivals!
John Kelly.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 17 May 08 - 01:54 PM

LTS: I've been puzzling over that phenomenon for ages. Standard British Tent Peg = 6" long. Standard British Campsite - 3" of soil on top of a layer of granite. I think the answer is to take a truckload of soil and a steamroller with you .......
Regarding the festival idea: I liked it; but then I remembered that this is Mudcat. We'd NEVER reach any concensus about when, where, who, etc.
John Kelly.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 May 08 - 05:00 AM

Well Rowan, one makes that choice at every singaround. In a way - you choose a song - or whatever and its your calling card. There are people there who've not seen you before, and it can't convey your whole personality - but one tries to give an inkling of what one is about.

If we had a cyber festival - people could contribute who can't play due to present illness or personal difficulties.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Slag
Date: 17 May 08 - 04:39 AM

No nasally humming!
No rubberband strumming!
No Jew's Harp thumbing
No cigaret bumming
An NO Mudcat chumming!

We DO allow rumming
And a little lowlife slumming
Ale that's mind-numbing
And lot's a guitar strumming
I hope you'll all be coming!

Rhyming is optional.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 17 May 08 - 03:53 AM

It needs to have a well drained campsite with no stones or 'permafrost' layer 3 inches below the surface. I've bent so many tent pegs trying to hammer them through rocks, bricks and a layer of earth so solid you could use a jackhammer on it and not make an impression.

LTS


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Rowan
Date: 17 May 08 - 02:54 AM

just one song though - one that sums up what you're about.

Only one song for us schizoids with multiple personalities (each with multiple defects)?


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 May 08 - 04:13 PM

I suppose we could have a sort of cyberfestival, where we all enter one song or video, on a special You-tube site. or a song and a picture - then we would all know whom we were talking to. just one song though - one that sums up what you're about.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 May 08 - 04:12 PM

The umbilicus is the centre of the universe.

G


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Songster Bob
Date: 16 May 08 - 04:10 PM

Geographical Center of Mudcatopolis? Hmmm... wonder where that would be? This thread would get mighty long if we each, individually, posted our locations, using global coordinates, and someone else were to plot them on a map or average them mathematically and then plot the result, you know?

I'm at N 38° 59' 47" W 77° 1' 13"

Bob


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: gnu
Date: 16 May 08 - 01:42 PM

Swipe a roll of swipe?


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 May 08 - 11:55 AM

Don't know what you mean Ned :)

G


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Splott Man
Date: 16 May 08 - 11:43 AM

G ¦¬]

Is this what your new joints look like Giok?


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 May 08 - 10:53 AM

What is it with women and size?


G ¦¬]


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: GUEST,Painted Lady
Date: 16 May 08 - 10:49 AM

it's only a festival if you have a bigger PA than the Greatful Dead.


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: topical tom
Date: 16 May 08 - 10:09 AM

'"I'm not entirely sure that we all mean the same thing by the word "festival".'

First we must determine what is "folk music" and what is a festival.(This could take a while.)


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: sapper82
Date: 16 May 08 - 07:59 AM

From: Little Robyn - PM
Date: 15 May 08 - 03:36 PM

'Sing where the geysers do blow'
Hey, that's here in little old NZ!
Who's coming over?
I'll see you here!
Robyn


's not!! 's Iceland!


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Surreysinger
Date: 16 May 08 - 05:47 AM

"I suspect, if someone were to plot the location of Mudcatters on a world map, taking into account numbers, the average location would turn out to be somewhere in the neighbourhood of Newfoundland. Great place for a festival. 2
Would that be on sea or land ? If the former that could be a VERY interesting location ... which would let me out cos I can't swim!


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 16 May 08 - 05:40 AM

...would that be a single ticket, then?


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: Splott Man
Date: 16 May 08 - 03:44 AM

Give him the ticket!

But don't let him sing!


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Subject: RE: The Mudcat Folk Festival
From: r.padgett
Date: 16 May 08 - 03:24 AM

I will steward for a weekend ticket in New Zealand for travel expenses and I will sing if they will let me!


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