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BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?

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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Mr Yellow
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 08:03 AM

More appealing? Pigs Pudding thems is called in parts of the Black country.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Mr Yellow
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 08:01 AM

Black Pudding, Black Country you follow the logic? not as north as Derbys but still way north of the Metrolups.

Staffordshire Oatcakes can be purchased in Derbys and South Yorkshire and probably North Staffs but sadly South Staffs long since got too posh - mostly. Slice yer BP and roll (think pancake consistency) inside Oatcakes and you have a fine snack.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: vectis
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 04:22 PM

I always have BP with my fry ups and it is readily available abroad on the south coast of England; as well as here in the Isle of Wight.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: paula t
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 03:06 PM

Emma B,
Thanks for the recipe. I haven't seen them sold anywhere for years. They are probably being sold somewhere under a more appealling name. I heard it rumoured years ago that the then EEC disapproved of their being called a "pea" when they dictated that they were in fact a type of bean.If this is true then maybe the poor Black Pea is a victim of bureaucracy!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 02:25 PM

Eeh, Folkiedave! Yer still a cheeky sod!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Santa
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 10:50 AM

Don't know that one, but do remember this:
Pease pudding hot
Pease pudding cold
Pease pudding in the pot
Nine days old.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 09:54 AM

Isn't there a song that has the refrain:

Black puddin' on the hook,
Black puddin' on the hook,
Black puddin' on the hook at the buuuutchers


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 08:58 AM

I think black puddings have gone all poncy these days. All the celebrity chefs are serving it with various sauces and artistically arranged bits of vegetables and fish. Eughhhhh


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Emma B
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 07:17 PM

Hey paula - there's a memory!

found this .....

....Bonfire Black Peas


250g (8oz) Black Peas
1/4 teaspoon of Bicarbonate of Soda
3 pints of water
Vinegar and salt for taste

Soak your black peas overnight in cold water with a pinch of bicarb of soda.
The next day, rinse your black peas in clean water, then stick them in a pan of cold water
(Do not add salt to the water it will make the peas hard) together with a quarter teaspoon of bicarbonate of soda. Boil them for 30 minutes until tender. If you want them mushy give them a good stir. Shove some in a cup, drown them with malt vinegar, then add salt to taste and then eat them all up.
You may find that some of your friends refrain from visiting you for a while, until the wind subsides - but hey - look on the bright side - you'll have a chance to do all those cleaning jobs you couldn't get round to before because you couldn't find the time!

not seen black peas for ages :(


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: paula t
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 07:11 PM

As a Lancashire lass , I agree that the best black pudding by far was from Bury market.I haven't been there for many years, but still remember the way everyone talked about it. People would go on long bus journeys just to buy their puddings from there.
I also remember another delicacy called "Black Peas" which were served up on bonfire night.Rather like mushy peas in that they had to be soaked before cooking- but they were black and very strong flavoured when served hot in a mug and seasoned with salt, pepper and vinegar.Absolute heaven! Anyone know where they can be bought nowadays?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Emma B
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 07:00 PM

Pease puddin' recipe


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Emma B
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 06:56 PM

Pease pudding hot, pease pudding cold,
Pease pudding in the pot - nine days old.
Some like it hot, some like it cold,
Some like it in the pot - nine days old.

now how about a saveloy too? :)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 06:55 PM

If anybod's interested if ye dee the same but substitute lentils for peas ye get Pease Pudd'n'

Anywhere else they would have called it lentil pudding.

If you have ever wondered why fat ugly geordie blokes go to football matches and sit there with no shirts on - this is the garbage they eat.

Is it any wonder.........

{Aside] I have NIVVER in my life seen as many crap bodhran players as there are in Newcastle. I blame the food.

Dave :-)>


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 05:51 PM

Eeh! Folkiedave!

Yarra cheeky bugger and nee mistake!

If anybod's interested if ye dee the same but substitute lentils for peas ye get Pease Pudd'n'

Now THAT's tasty


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 05:40 PM

Thanks Emma, How you going?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: GUEST,Monique
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 02:38 PM

Elfcall, if the sausage you saw is dry, you eat it raw, and if it isn't, I read that some people grill it on the bbq. I don't know more than that about it, I think I only had dry raw horse meat sausage once. Though I do have horse meat steaks -fried with garlic and parsley.
Yes, "boudin créole" is the same thing as "boudin antillais". And "boudin noir" is delicious with apples cut in quarters or thick slices and fried in butter. Or good (but not so delicious) with apple marmelade just out of the can for the lazy ones!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Emma B
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 12:24 PM

The Testing Of Eric Olthwaite ?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 12:20 PM

Does anybody remember the Michael Palin character in Ripping Yarns, who was the most boring bloke in the world?

He kept saying, Eeee! My mother's black puddings are so black, even the white bits are black.....


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 12:08 PM

"Sutzuki" is actually a Turkish word, comes from "Sudjuk". We use it instead of the Greek "loukaniko" to indicate a short and fat sausage, usually with plenty of spices. But no cereal. Only the Brits would dare put cereal in a sausage!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:47 AM

George what's the spicy Greek sausage that I like, called something like soujouki [sp] made of?

G.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:41 AM

These days, with food distribution the king, you can get anything pretty much anywhere, so BP availability is no criterion. Furthermore, what is clear from this thread is that sausages/salamis similar to BP are also native to other countries like Spain.

In Greece we wouldn't bugger a perfectly good all-meat-and-fat-and-salt-and-pepper-and-whatever-granny-found-at-the bottom-of-her-shoe sausage by adding blood. No need. The ancient Spartans had another use for it instead: Melas Zomos, literally "Black Broth", a soup that the warriors would fortify themselves with before the went to battle. Unfortunately the recipe has been lost through the centuries, but we do know that it included sheep's blood.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: David C. Carter
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:40 AM

I've seen horse meat steak "flambé",in cognac.Smelled good.

D


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:32 AM

I've eaten horse meat burgers in France, and horse meat steaks in Italy, both very nice too.
G


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: David C. Carter
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:25 AM

Elfcall-Didn't reply to your question earlier,sorry, but the pubs were calling.
I've never tried horsemeat one way or another.
I was told it was pretty rich.

I'll enquire next time I'm trawling our local market.

Cheers
David


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:20 AM

We knew that Rap :)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 09:10 AM

Is made from avocados. It's a wholly vegetable dish, usually used as a dip.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 09:06 AM

Sex and Drugs and Guacamole ♫


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Stu
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 08:47 AM

Guacamole?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Santa
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 08:05 AM

Yorkshire puddings? I heard of it as starters, but never dessert.

Mushy peas are an abomination. I was born and grew up in the North East without ever encountering them. When I first met them, and was told they "came from the North East", I assumed it was some stupid Southerners trying to avoid the blame.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: GUEST,The black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 07:48 AM

My late father (born on Merseyside) never had any problems getting black pudding in Somerset, but then that part of the country also has hogs pudding which is basically similar but without the blood, so they know about these sorts of food.

My Lancashire vegetarian wife is renowned for allowing herself to eat her local ethnic foods, so she is a vegetarian except for steak puddings, hot pots and black pudding.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Stu
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 07:46 AM

A slice of Bury black pudding with a pan fried scallop on top is wonderful.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: GUEST,Elfcall
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 07:02 AM

Thanks Greg and John. That's the stuff! - Could have googled I suppose.

I also had dasheen in my head but knew it was not that!

Now all I need to know is how to cook those damn sausages!

Elfcall


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 06:54 AM

Drisheen

G


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: greg stephens
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 06:49 AM

Drisheen, with an r, in Cork I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Emma B
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 06:33 AM

Disheen is a favourite in the English Market in Cork as are crubeens (pigs' feet)!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: GUEST,Elfcall
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 06:23 AM

I too prefer boudin noir (with onion, or apple or Antillaise - probably the same as Monique's creole) although I will happily eat black pudding. I'm a midlander so I do not know where that leaves me on the black pudding geographical map.

IIRC there is a also a 'soft' black pudding made on the West Coast of Ireland - and the word 'Disheen' keeps coming to mind - but not sure if I have this right. Although I have spent a lot of time there, mainly in Clare, I have never seen it for sale or on a menu- perhaps I have made it up!

Elfcall

Monique or David - In French markets I have often seen sausages for sale made from horse meat - do you know the best way to cook these, or the traditional way they should be cooked? Thanks


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 06:05 AM

The Spanish are reputed to eat every part of a pig, except the squeak.

G

Sorry Liz!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: GUEST,Monique
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 06:01 AM

We get boudin noir, boudin blanc and spicy "boudin créole" (black) in Southern France and Spanish have their own black pudding called morcilla.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: David C. Carter
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 05:30 AM

We get boudin noir and boudin blanc here in Paris.

I don't know what's in it,and I ain't aiming to find out.

But I like it.
And we can get haggis.Great stuff!

D


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 05:06 AM

Slight error in the recipe for mushy peas - it should read

Take the stock that's left when ye boil a joint of bacon. Tek your hard peas that've soaked in ordinary watter for 24 hours and wrap them tightly in a cloth. Put the cloth into the stock. Bring to the boil and simmer for an hour.

Then chuck the bag away and drink the juice. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: julian morbihan
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 04:56 AM

Depends on how you define north.

I live in Brittany which is the north-west of France and we have have lovely black pudding called boudin noir...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 03:07 AM

In a shop on't banks of th'Irwell,
Owd Sam used to follow his trade,
In a place tha'll 'ave heard of called Bury,
Tha knows, where't black puddings is made.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 06:53 PM

Eatin' boudins. (Scroll down to the photo labeled "Boudin lunch.jpg", click on it to enlarge it.)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Anne Lister
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 06:18 PM

Q - There are other savoury puddings in the UK and Ireland - steak and kidney pudding comes to mind first of all, but there are more. The word pudding itself possibly derives from the French word "boudin" which is, of course, the word used for their black pudding, and so we come around again.

For our wedding weekend, some friends from Cork brought quite a quantity of Clonakilty black pudding to help with catering for breakfasts. We failed miserably at the task of eating the lot and had to give away loads to various friends and relations, as we knew we were about to go away on honeymoon. *sigh*

Anne


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 06:17 PM

Oh, yeah. I prefer to fry it when it's sausage, but if you get commercial stuff, the sausage itself has a skin on it. That should come off before frying.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 06:12 PM

PS I could and have eaten it three or four times per week.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 06:12 PM

It's a long story.

The best I ever had came out like a meatloaf. DE LIC IOUS.

Q, check Safeway. They sometimes carry it. It sounds like it would be gross, but it isn't. Not at all. There is no way I could describe the taste other than to say it's good. It would likely be the sausage, and I think Maple Leaf makes it. If you ask at the meat counter they'd be able to direct you to it or get some for you. It runs at about $5.00/pound.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 06:07 PM

Peace, I assumed that black pudding was the same as the black cake served at Hogmanay. My ignorance. I guess I have never eaten the sausage or 'pudding.'

I thought pudding always were deserts.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 05:59 PM

Sometimes am able to pick it up in the super market. It is variously called blood pudding, blood sausage. It isn't as good as the stuff that was made by my Newfoundland friends, but not bad considering it's a commercial preparation. Don't know if it's a northern thing, but I do know it tastes good and the flavour is increased with Keen's Mustard.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK: Is Black Pudding a northern thing?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 05:28 PM

Easier to use peas that are grown in the can.

Black bun? Looked more like a cake to me. But I don't know the nomenclature in the UK.


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