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BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???

Bobert 06 Feb 08 - 02:49 PM
Peace 06 Feb 08 - 02:54 PM
Wesley S 06 Feb 08 - 03:09 PM
Becca72 06 Feb 08 - 03:11 PM
Wesley S 06 Feb 08 - 03:12 PM
Wesley S 06 Feb 08 - 03:14 PM
katlaughing 06 Feb 08 - 03:18 PM
Ebbie 06 Feb 08 - 03:20 PM
bobad 06 Feb 08 - 04:23 PM
M.Ted 06 Feb 08 - 05:28 PM
Bobert 06 Feb 08 - 06:23 PM
GUEST,Peace 06 Feb 08 - 10:38 PM
katlaughing 06 Feb 08 - 10:43 PM
freightdawg 06 Feb 08 - 11:50 PM
Amergin 07 Feb 08 - 12:25 AM
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Subject: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 02:49 PM

Well, over the years I have had bouts of knotted up muscle in lower neck upper back... When it hits it usually goes away in a day 'er two... In the past I have also had longer bouts and used a massuage threrapist to kinda put nuff pressure on the knots to get 'um workin' again...

Well, since movin' away from my ol' massauge therapist I haven't had a bout of it until about a week ago... I went to a new massaguge therapist who worked me over purdy good but I think crated some other problems in addition to the knots...

Well, today is about as bad as I have ever had it... I worked this mornin' but it got too painfull to keep on workin' so I'm back home, have taken a couple asprin and have another appiontment with the massauge therapits tomorrow... This time I'm gonna tell here specifically what to do and not let her just twist the crud outta me...

But here's the question.... About half the folks you ask say heat... The other hald say ice and the third half say alternate heat and ice... Sop which half is right??? The first, second or third???

Plus any other advice will be greatly appreciated as long as it pretains to this subject...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Peace
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 02:54 PM

Yes.



And good luck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Wesley S
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:09 PM

Drugs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Becca72
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:11 PM

The third half is right, Bobert. Heat will relax the muscles and ice will reduce any swelling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Wesley S
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:12 PM

Ahh... Maybe I should be more specific. Muscle relaxers. Perscribed muscle relaxers. Self medicating should be avoided. And do not operate heavy machinery.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Wesley S
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:14 PM

And give your tractor a rest......


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:18 PM

Ice to reduce the inflammation. If you put heat to it that increases the blood flow which increases the swelling. Later on, when it has calmed down, you might try heat, but not for a good while, imo.

I have hardly any trouble with mine, anymore, after years of debilitating pain and meds/adjustments/massages/acupuncture/ etc. I am doing a modified qi gong as seen on Lee Holden's Qi Gong for Seniors. It makes a HUGE difference. THIS ONE is specifically for lower back pain.

The other thing I use, frequently, and intensely IF I get hurt is Zheng gui shui which REALLY works!! I always have this on hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:20 PM

When I badly injured my back, the regimen, per my doctor's orders, was to apply ice for 20 minutes out of every two hours. This took several days- it felt so good that I even fell asleep with the ice pack. After the inflamation was gone, I then applied heat. I survived. I'm still here.

My commiserations, though, Bobert. I remember what it was like to have breathing hurt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: bobad
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 04:23 PM

The phenomenon of muscle knots is not uncommon. Essentially, muscle knots are sections within the various muscles of the body that have constricted and create pain that is consistent. The condition is common enough to merit the application of a scientific name, which is myofascial trigger points. While there is not currently a definitive medical explanation as to why muscle knots form, several theories are undergoing testing. Here is some information about the nature of the muscle knot, as well as some of the treatment methods that are in use today.

The generally accepted answer to why muscle knots form is that something triggers a reaction where the muscle never relaxes. In effect, the muscle is always in a state where it appears to be actively rather than passively in use. This is unusual, since even with such activities as weight lifting, running, or any type of heavy lifting the muscle goes through a series of off and on cycles. The constant active condition of the muscle leads to muscle spasms, which in turn acts as the root cause the muscle knot.

Surgically removing a portion of muscle knots has led to the discovery of the presence of unusual deposits of protein within the tissue. There is also a theory that an excessive amount of connective tissue surrounding the muscle may also contribute to the development of muscle knots. However, very little research has been done on the matter of connective tissue, so most doctors do not recognize that as a contributing factor in the development of a myofascial trigger point.

There are several recommended treatments for muscle knots. Some involve the application of massage therapy to calm the knots. While massaging the knot may be somewhat painful during the process, there are reports of a temporary easing of the muscle spasm process. Other treatments involve the application of hot or cold packs to the muscle knots, as a means of helping the muscle to relax. Electrical stimulation, as well as ultrasound treatments are also common ways to deal with muscle knots.

At present, there does not seem to be any one effective means of eliminating the presence of muscle knots, although different people respond to one or more of these treatments over time. While it is rare, there are reports of muscle knots disappearing during treatments. However, in most cases, treatments are more focused on managing the condition, rather than eliminating the presence of the muscle knots.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-exactly-are-muscle-knots.htm


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: M.Ted
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 05:28 PM

Arnica gel can help with the pain, but don't put it on yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 06:23 PM

Some good stuff in there...

Yeah, they are muscle knots... I know that they are always with me but usually aren't painfull...

I've been on ice off and on this afternoon...

Unfortunately, contrary of reason, I did have to do about 30 minutes of tractor duty getting an ol' rusty feeder loaded on a flatbed truck so we wouyldn't have to look at it anymore...

Unfortunately, Part B, the P-Vine wanted me to show her how to shoot the shotgun because there's a pesky groundhog that only appears when she is around and I'm gone so I took her to the back of the farm where she "chickened out" and me, being me, had to show off how easy it is to shoot a danged shotgun... That was a setback...

Thanks, Kat, fir those websites.... The Qi Gong exercise program for Seniors looks interesting... I use to do Thia Chi a long time ago and should have never quit...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 10:38 PM

See if you have a reflexologist nearby, Bobert. They are miracle workers.

I have had back problems for years, or rather had back problems for years. My spine was outta wack due to a degenerated hip joint and after the replacement, a reflexologist put my spine back where it's mostly s'posed to be and I have had little problem with it since.

Pain killers can be a big help, but keep in mind that pain is the body's way of telling you you something ain't right, and if you mask that, then you're liable to go hurt yourself more than you have already.

Tai Chi Chuan?

You have both my sympathy and empathy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 10:43 PM

You're welcome, Bobert. That one you can even do sitting in a chair. Lee's mom demonstrates and she definitely doesn't need to be in a chair!:-)

Another great one is Yoga for the rest of us by Peggy Cappy. Anyone, of any ability can do what she shows on the video. It is REALLY good and does help.

I should never have stopped my taiji, either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: freightdawg
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 11:50 PM

Bobert,

Be VERY careful about lifting anything heavy, or even lifting a small weight while twisting, while your back is knotted up. The strain your back is under can make it very susceptible to a herniated disc. Then we're talking surgery, m'boy. The old 'dawg is a surgery survivor - and I had a great surgeon and he fixed it up perfect. But, like he said, a cut back is always a cut back and I can't shovel more than a shovel of snow without cripping around like an old geezer for a week. The Mrs. Freightdawg still thinks the driveway needs to be shoveled though. Bummer.

Good luck and bend from the knees.

Freightdawg


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Amergin
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 12:25 AM

Drink a bottle of whiskey...you won't care about anything that night...and have more problems to worry about the next day or two...


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: alison
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 01:16 AM

another vote for reflexology

Bowen therapy fixes mine every time too - much more effective and gentle than a massage

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Midchuck
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 06:52 AM

Use the "Cat and Camel" exercise.

Peter


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Subject: RE: BS: Back Outta A Wack: Advice Sought???
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 08:39 AM

The call 'um chiroprators here in these parts... Yeah, I've been to a few of 'um but have had better luck with massuage therapists...

The one I'm seeing now is also learning chiropractics...

Yeah, once it has calmed down I'll look in to a regimin of better exercise... I keep forgetting that physical work ain't the same as exercise...

B~


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