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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: wayfarer
Date: 18 Jan 12 - 12:43 PM

greetings mudcatters! haven't been here in awhile.   here is the link to my myspace page. have a visit and friend me if you're so inclined.

www.myspace.com/awandererplays2007


p.s. the blue clinky thing doesn't always work tho'


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 28 Dec 11 - 02:17 PM

But I hear that on Soundcloud there's little or no profile option? which is why I've gone with Reverbnation and Facebook - and if you set up Reverbnation first (pretty easy), you can link your FB profile to it, so that any changes you later make to RN will update automatically on FB.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Dec 11 - 06:02 PM

MySpace f##ked up big time. I no longer trust them and that's that.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Tootler
Date: 27 Dec 11 - 05:02 PM

As Suibhne said, Soundlcloud is much better. It still restricts you but by time and two hours allows quite a lot of tracks. You can get more by paying but I imagine you can get round that by creating multiple accounts with different email addresses.

Reverbnation seems to be growing in popularity, so I might investigate that.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Tootler
Date: 27 Dec 11 - 04:34 PM

Not really. It looks like you are still restricted on the number of uploads you can have and there is still the same messy interface.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Dec 11 - 01:57 PM

...and now folks can link directly to it, e.g. - http://www.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse/radio ...anyone tempted back..?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Dec 11 - 05:34 AM

In case you have'nt noticed, there is one good development on MySpace: the new radio (including folk radio) function; e.g., from here - http://www.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse - click on "All" then "Radio" or "Folk" radio.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 05:01 AM

Didn't know you were a fellow forklifter, S! That Fleetwood Myspace page was good in my opinion. "Why bother?"...well, if we do want as many folks as possible to check our work, we have to go beyond "real life" I suppose. There's a good one funded by the English Arts Council, although it's mainly for poetry - e.g., http://www.writeoutloud.net/profiles/davidfrankswalkaboutsverse


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 05:52 PM

WAV - I couldn't even sort it with a forklift certificate and a rained-off linguistics degree. Besides, they'll only find some way to mess it up again so why bother? Soundcloud is nice; Facebook is gentle, but real life is best...


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 05:37 PM

...or one of the other wealthy American companies, Google, is now trialling a new social-networking site..?

With just a level 1 computer certificate and Windows 7 Starter, I sorted out the new myspace system in a couple of hours (above link), but certainly found it more complex and demanding than the old.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 04:09 PM

Try Soundcloud: more music & less sycophancy!


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 03:20 PM

I don't... mine still sits there, in a mess and utter chaos, and from time to time I peep at it and run away in horror and fear...

One of my urgent autumn tasks is to sort out a decent new page on Bandcamp, Reverbnation, Facebook..... anywhere but Myspace... :)


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 11:21 AM

Do people still use Myspace? I tried to update the Fleetwood Folk Club page last night - all the designs and links were all to hell, and all my previous 'hard work' (hem, hem) lost forever. I made the changes though, but I've no idea if it'll work or not. Used to like Myspace too... now it's dreadful.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 10:45 AM

Another new track on http://myspace.com/walkaboutsverse, re Sydney, Australia - "Fondly and Vividly".


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: s&r
Date: 30 Jun 11 - 06:45 PM

Don't know what to say David.

I admire your perseverance.

Stu


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Jun 11 - 02:52 PM

New track (a poem set to music, with tenor-recorder intro and keyboard accompaniment): "Windermere" - http://myspace.com/walkaboutsverse


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Rockhen
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 08:58 PM

Helian Keys still on myspace
Helian Keys on myspace
but now also have music on itunes, if you search for Helian Keys. Thanks for reading and please have a listen if you have time.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Chris Amos
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 06:19 PM

Here is my two penny worth

here

Chris


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 05:05 PM

and heres me on myspace

http://www.myspace.com/folksingerbigal


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 05:02 PM

heres my hit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf1vgmSlH5I


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 04:30 PM

For the record, WAV - I have a thorough grounding in musical theory from Pythagoras to Harry Partch (and even a music O-level!). In practical terms I'm working with musical theory the whole time - be it musical improvisation, musique concrete, the singing (and researching) of traditional song and the vexing business of keeping my various fiddles & zithers in tune - which involves Concert Pitch, Eastern (Military) Pitch, and in the case of my Ango-Norman harp (hear it on Names of the Hare HERE) building up an Ionian (major) mode from a given tonic by using 4ths, 5ths and 8ves. Such things are second nature to me; hell, I can even hear the difference between a perfect 3rd and a tempered 3rd (Harry Partch split the 8ve into 43 divisions to realise this - start HERE). That said, anyone with even the most casual acquaintance with music (theoretical & otherwise) would wince at your voice / keyboard efforts; I still have nightmares about your crucifying of Wondrous Cross, though Xmas Sung Simply runs it a close second. I've no problem with the E.Trads and unaccompanied chants though.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 01:02 PM

I agree, Stu, that, ideally, the time I take per line should be the same for singing and playing my flute, and I can check on Audacity - which I haven't done for a couple of years. Having admitted that, my recorder intros at singarounds don't seem to have discouraged group singing.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: s&r
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 12:35 PM

David - it's difficult to guess at the time signature because of the breathing pause at the end of each line, but the tempo of the recorder is about 1 1/2 times the tempo of what follows. This stops any musical continuity. The notes on your recorder are reasonably accurate, but your vocal intonation is not there yet, so the tune sounds different.

It might be worth while studying breath control ie short breath intake followed by controlled release. Players of wind instruments usually pinch a bit from the length of an adjacent note to snatch a breath, as do singers when necessary.

I have had pupils in the past who have had difficulty with pitching, where they sing a bit harder instead of higher. Your persistence ought to pay off and I wish you well with it.

Just by the way I saw nothing about music reading in Sean's post: I do know he has an understanding of many aspects of music theory and performance that is rarely found.

Stu


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 12:05 PM

http://myspace.com/jimyates
http://myspace.com/mapleleafchampionjugband

Just http:// instead of www., I think, Jim.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: PHJim
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 11:50 AM

I can't seem to get the "blue clicky" thing to work today.
My personal myspace page is www.myspace.com/jimyates
I also play in the Maple Leaf Cahmpions Jug Band www.myspace.com/mapleleafchampionjugband


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 07:42 AM

I'll bear that feedback/criticism in mind but also the confusion within, such as this:

"recorder bore little musical relationship with what followed." (Stu)...but following the tune (as an intro.) on the recorder is the very same tune (doubling the melody, as an accompaniment) on the keyboards; so, unless they've been mass produced way out of tune, it's immpossible for that to be so.

And, S., last I heard (from yourself) you couldn't read or write music, but you now post as if you do...have you learn't to do so the last few months?

And, as I've said before, given my decision to accompany by doubling the melody (here), I shall, as you both suggest, keep working on intonation (and keep the tunes in my repertoire committed to memory) by playing a line/singing a line/playing a line, with both recorder and keys - rather than going through scales.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: s&r
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 06:55 AM

Thanks for that - interesting and musical. I think you're right that WAV would benefit from a drone type accompaniment with his chants.

Stu


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 05:43 AM

Cheers, Stu. I've got this wee sythesiser thing - a Korg Kaossilator, which replaces the keyboard with a mode-friendly dynamic X-Y pad - for live loops beats & drones. The crwth & kaossilator were recorded in real time, and I added the bass ostinato afterwards.

Here's a visual demonstration on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MynD0nTYWfc


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: s&r
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 04:31 AM

Lovely piece Sean. Is it on the crwth alone? There seems to be a separate underlying drone.

Stu


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 03:55 AM

Bum. Never mind. But seeing this is a Myspace music thread, check out the Crwth Raga currently playing on my Myspace Page...


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 03:52 AM

Stu's spot on there, WAV - there is no difference in register between your two voices, only one of tone &, to a certain extent diction, but even so it's hardly obvious until you point it out. There's certainly no falsetto (for an example of which see HERE).

If I might be frank here (speaking as one of the only ones here who has not only voiced any appreciation for your singing at all, but openly welcome your participation in singarounds) it seems your vocal intonation comes completely unstuck when you use accompaniment. Unaccompanied such things are rather less evident, and, to a certain extent, less important, but once you've got that keyboard in there it's only effect is to highlight your wayward intonation. Given both the modal quality of your chants and your fondness for E. trads, my advice would be to try singing against a drone - but practise first by singing scales, modes & intervals. Once you've got your 3rds, 4ths, 5ths and 8ves sorted you should find things a lot easier. Also, purely as a excercise, try singing whilst playing the recorder - something many flautists do as part of their sound (such as Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull (who nicked his entire flute act from Rahsaan Roland Kirk who pioneered such techniques). I'm not suggesting you make this part of your performance, but it might help improve your intonations generally, and get your voice in tune with your flute when you use it for preludes.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: s&r
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 06:50 PM

By tightening muscles in your throat you did get rid of the rattle. Falsetto it's not. Listen and compare.

Stu


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 05:02 PM

I'll come back to that video, thanks, Stu, but my understanding was basically the same as this: "A countertenor is a male singing voice whose vocal range is equivalent to that of a contralto, mezzo-soprano, or (less frequently) a soprano, usually through use of falsetto, or far more rarely the normal or modal voice" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countertenor).

In Section 2, by tightening muscles in my throat, I'm singing in falsetto to produce a contralto.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: s&r
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 03:32 PM

I listened to it with some interest:

Section 1 - recorder bore little musical relationship with what followed.

Section 2 - 'tenor' had a rattly quality

Section 3 - 'counter-tenor was out of tune, but had lost the rattly quality. Wasn't counter-tenor or falsetto.

This may help to explain it

Scholl is a counter-tenor, not a mezzo soprano

Stu


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 01:47 PM

Assuming you noticed the change as I start the "now" half of the track, S, I've used falsetto to produce what I think is the equivalent of a contralto - which is what I use in my hymn repertoire (again, via above link).

Whereas Scholl seems to be producing a mezzo-soprano, yes..?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 04:11 AM

WAV - in what way is that a counter-tenor?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 11 Nov 10 - 06:47 PM

Nice link, Stu - Scholl's sweet, but I'll always be a Deller man, although Bowman runs a close second! Then there was the brilliant Zeger Vandersteene who stopped singing counter-tenor for reasons of masculine integrity (or so I'm told). Anyway here's Scholl giving a damn near perfect rendering of Purcell's Here the Deities Approve. The fiddles aren't too bad either...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwEO4r3CSE


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: s&r
Date: 11 Nov 10 - 06:19 PM

Countertenor

Stu


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Nov 10 - 02:13 PM

I've reworked and reposted my folk-carol "Christmas Sung Simply"; the lyrics and the recording may be found via this Myspace link, and you may notice that I've done the first-half "then" in tenor voice, and the second-half "now" in counter-tenor voice (along with a tenor-recorder intro. and keyboard accompaniment).


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 04:32 PM

I just placed a recording of this on my MySpace profile - http://myspace.com/walkaboutsverse

Poem 162 of 230: TEES TO TYNE: FIRST IMPRESSIONS - SUMMER 2001

(TUNE:

E F# F# E D E F# F#
F# G G A B A G G
D G A A B B A A
F# G A B B A A-G G

D D F# F# F#-G F# E E
E E E E F# E D D)

Where traditions are not so rare;
Sea, country and works scent the air;
A multitude of monuments,
Planted tubs and patterned pavements.

The longish pedestrian malls;
The remnants of defensive walls;
Historic buildings are a gauge
Of the respect for heritage.

Wheat, rape and pines in the fields;
Estuaries guarded by shields;
Long sandy beaches and wide scenes;
Romantic-ruin go-betweens.

Rivers in parts licked by trees,
Or fringed by boat clubs, wharfs, gantries,
And crossed by practical delights -
Varied spans, forming pleasing sights.

Fine churches headed at Durham;
Football kits ad infinitum;
Kept castles - one for study;
Masonry behind masonry.

And, with moulding-works out that way,
It's somewhere for a longer stay..?

(C) David Franks 2003
From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse (e-book)
Or http://walkaboutsverse.webs.com (e-scroll)


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:40 PM

Bother, that didn't work....for some reason, blue clicky thing doesn't work - so here is the address to copy-paste:
www.myspace.com/onestarawakemusic


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:35 PM

Here's me, with some new songs too


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:15 AM

I'm here, under my secret true identity. All unaccompanied, almost all traditional. See also "Pip Radish sings trad-ish", which I'll be updating for the next few days as I put more songs up.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: JHW
Date: 25 Jun 10 - 04:29 AM

http://www.myspace.com/whitclifferecords


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 06:00 AM

Thanks, Robin - just enjoyed your "Caterpillar Wrestling".


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 23 Jun 10 - 07:38 AM

I thought that I had posted on this before but...

I'm on there (Robin Madge) and have some of my compositions, including one that is pure computer generated I'm afraid.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 23 Jun 10 - 06:56 AM

All we here on the media nowadays, here in England anyway, is Facebook this and Twitter that, but I still think myspace is the better one for musicians.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 08:49 PM

I have some of my poetry up there on youtube....I'll find a link when I'm not at school.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: GUEST,Corona Smith
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 08:39 PM

Rabble rousing English Folk & Stray Dance

SHIZNITZ!

Or here on Soundcloud


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter Music on Myspace
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 04:43 PM

The Bounty Hounds on Myspace

http://www.myspace.com/thebountyhounds

You'll also find one of our tracks on the Rochester Sweeps Festival myspace page, where if I may be allowed a self indulgent moment, we have had more plays than anyone else, including Bellowhead!

http://www.myspace.com/sweepsfestival

John


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