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BS: A Question About Soap

robomatic 14 Dec 07 - 08:32 AM
Stilly River Sage 14 Dec 07 - 08:38 AM
John MacKenzie 14 Dec 07 - 08:45 AM
maeve 14 Dec 07 - 08:47 AM
maeve 14 Dec 07 - 09:41 AM
katlaughing 14 Dec 07 - 10:57 AM
Scooby Doo 14 Dec 07 - 11:16 AM
Bee 14 Dec 07 - 02:09 PM
John MacKenzie 14 Dec 07 - 02:10 PM
Jim Dixon 14 Dec 07 - 02:19 PM
Peace 14 Dec 07 - 02:20 PM
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Rapparee 14 Dec 07 - 03:59 PM
Art Thieme 14 Dec 07 - 04:00 PM
Sorcha 14 Dec 07 - 04:03 PM
Bill D 14 Dec 07 - 05:47 PM
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Subject: BS: A Question About Soap
From: robomatic
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 08:32 AM

I used to buy a great soap when I was in Canada:

Cusson's Imperial Leather. Still have a few bars of it in Alaska. It smelled great but had a tendency to chip like a stone when one dropped it in the bath.

Is there anything comparable in the soap world o today?

Right now I alternate between Irish Spring ("Manly, yes, but Oi Loike it, too!), Ivory (simplicity, it floats), and Dr. Bronner's (diluted 5 to 1 w water), and a circular oatmeal soap which is getting harder to find.

So what do y'all use?


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 08:38 AM

I buy soaps from Big Lots, a store that handles odd mixes of stuff (they don't always have these products in stock). They've had some very large bars with nice scents, they last a long time. Don't remember the name, I'll have to go look them up.

The other place I buy fancy soap is at Ross (the clothing store also has a fair selection of handbags, shoes, housewares, and toiletries). They usually have boxed sets of fine soaps for about a buck a bar. I bring home French and Italian soaps that were milled several times, sometimes made of olive oil or other such great ingredients. And when you look at the price of soap in the grocery store, these aren't any more expensive. You just have to remember they're there.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 08:45 AM

It's still around in the UK, but Wikipedia says, "Not available US or Canada", you need friends in Brit places Stilly.
G.


Jacqui will be heading back to the US soon :)


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: maeve
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 08:47 AM

Lots of good soaps and other hard-to-find products at:

The Vermont Country Store

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: maeve
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 09:41 AM

robomatic- It's also available at:


Amazon

and: London's Bathecary

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 10:57 AM

My Rog really likes the yucca shampoo bath bar we buy from the Frank family (Navajo), but they have several kinds to choose from. I would hightly recommend them and their products; service and products are superb. Just click here. They also have samplers of smaller bars.

I have to be careful what I use, so it's boring old perfume-free Cetaphil which the doc recommended. He also told me to always be sure whatever I use is non-Comedogenic; otherwise my pores gets clogged and I start to itch!

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 11:16 AM

If some peeps here want imperial soap i will send some out to you.Can you pm me.
ta Scooby.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Bee
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 02:09 PM

I have run out of an emu oil based handmade rose scented soap I bought in PEI two years ago. It was wonderful.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 02:10 PM

How do you extract Emu oil?


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 02:19 PM

I suppose you boil an emu and skim off whatever floats to the top.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Peace
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 02:20 PM

Put the emu through a blender. Then shove all the stuff into a warm bath. Skim off the feathers and lumps. Stir a few times with a paddle. Let sit for two hours. The oil, being lighter than water, will float to the surface. Siphon that off. Voila. Oil of E Mu.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Peace
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 02:21 PM

Cross posted, Jim. Great minds . . . fools seldom . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Peace
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 02:22 PM

BTW, Robomatic: it's winter now and we won't need soap in Canada until late March.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 02:37 PM

I generally use a very ordinary soap, but do find that when I buy a fresh 12-pack it lasts longer if I immediately unwrap all the individual bars and set them out to "harden" until needed.

Rather than using an exotic soap, I find it preferable to have an "after bath" application of suitable oils and emolients, but generally have been satisfied with the selections made by the masseuse.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: lady penelope
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 03:45 PM

I use a baby soap called Infacare, as real soap makes my skin crack and my intimate bits don't react well to perfumes. I can't use Johnson's baby bath either 'cos of the baby oil in it. That makes the skin at my joints harden!!!

Which is a real shame, 'cos my favourite soap used to be Body Shop's Lemon soap. It smelled so lemony you almost wanted to slice it up and stick it in your Gin and Tonic.....


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 03:59 PM

Lava. First I soak up good in gasoline to break down the surface tension of the dirt, and then I scrub up good with the soap. If I'm really dirty I'll then use pumice stone. After rinsing, though, I burnish my body with rottenstone or perhaps a mild grade of sandpaper or steel wool.

Sometimes I light special aroma candles after the gasoline soak.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Art Thieme
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 04:00 PM

Friend, Ralph Bronner, from Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps in Escondido, CA stops by here to visit just about every time he passes through here. Their liquid soaps, with great aromas, are tops in my book. And he always tells you in front to DILUTE DILUTE DILUTE! If you do that, the soap seems to last forever. (So why are we out of soap at present?)

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 04:03 PM

I refuse to pay Vermont Country Store's outrageous shipping charges. We used to use a very soft glycerin soap. It was about 75 cents a bar and dissappeared fast. Can't find it now.

I just buy Dove for sensitive skin.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 05:47 PM

Just Ivory for everyday & bath, but special grit-impregnated cream for scraping off shop grime....comes in a tube.

My wife uses one of a special handmade line of soaps made locally by a woman...but she does also sell on the internet

Leslie's Garden soaps


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: John O'L
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 06:04 PM

I habve very dry skin, (possibly the result of a wasted youth spent surfing) so I use Simple soap and/or Dove bodywash.

BTW, I have always thought that Imperial Leather was the result of a typo which should have read "Imperial Lather". I guess imperial leather would be pretty soft, but it's still not the sort of stuff I'd like to associate my soap with if I had a soap.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 07:53 PM

Sorcha, we used to use glycerin bars, too. I had to stop because they clogged my pores and caused itchy rashes. You can get them on-line at Clearny Natural Soaps.

Rap, my dad used LAVA on his hands every night after work. That smell still brings back such good memories of him!

If you want to use up all of your soap chips or leftover bits of soap bars: Fold over the end of a washcloth, just enough to accommodate a drawstring. Stitch that fold down, leaving an open channel for the drawstring. Fold the washcloth in two with the drawstring being at the top. Stitch together at the bottom and side with the fold being the other side. Feed a shoelace or anything that will work for the drawstring through the channel, then turn it right-side out so the stitching doesn't show. You can put a bar of soap in it and use it for great lathering or save all of the little bits in it for use when you run out of soap bars!


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: bobad
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 09:12 PM

I have recently begun using olive oil soap - it is made from natural ingredients, biodegradable, inexpensive and leaves your skin feeling nice. The ones I get come from either Greece or Lebanon and I purchase them at a Middle Eastern market. They are rather crude bars and are probably produced in small local ateliers rather than large factories.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 09:51 PM

I've helped my great-aunt make her own soap. Lye (from a can, although she could also make her own), filtered fats left over from cooking, and careful stirring.

Let it harden and cut into whatever sized bar you'd like. Don't get it in your eyes, and you probably wouldn't want to bathe with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Alice
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 10:12 PM

My mom used to make her own lye soap. She would put it through a hand crank meat grinder and use the flakes for washing clothes. I think she did it just because she knew how to and it revived memories for her. It was so labor intensive, it wasn't something she carried on all the time.

Alice


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Kent Davis
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 10:29 PM

My darling wife makes our soap from lye, water, palm kernel oil, coconut oil, olive oil, and various essential oils. It's the best I've ever used, lathers well, smells great, easy on the skin, and lasts a long time. She sells it at the local Farmer's Market.

Kent


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 11:35 PM

Have any of you tried Soap Nuts for your laundry?


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 12:03 AM

Rapaire -

First I soak up good in gasoline ...

You absolutely should not use gasoline, as the additives are known to be quite toxic and leave an after-taste that makes other fluids unpalatable for hours or sometimes for days.

A good grade of kerosine, however, has few or no additives, and evaporates to the point of leaving no significant odor within an hour or two. Kerosine was, in fact, used religiously, as a "shampoo," by several aircraft plant workers of my acquaintance after an "old injun" remarked that it could prevent baldness. As it apparently removed some of the other "vapors" one acquired in the shops that could damage the follicles, several users demonstrated convincing evidence that for them it was - if not a hair restorer, then at least a loss retardant - in that particular shop.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 09:58 AM

Irish Spring FINALLY put out a liquefied version; Hardi wanted it for years and now I like it too, altho it is less rinse-able than others. WalMart sometimes also carries a very nice tea-tree soap gel that I first met in my son and dau-in-law's shower. The two soaps mixed together are REALLY nice.

For rinse-ability, Coast bar soap.

For removing chlorine, the citrus blends.

I also keep a botle of inexpensive lotion in the shower, because it's easy to apply when one is warm and wet, using a scrubby-on-a-stick to slick it on everywhere without painful bending when my back or knee or hip or whatever are especially sore. I started doing that in my after-pool showers and finally got an extra bottle at home-- upper body one day, lower body the next, keeps me from getting too crispy.

I'm planning on just moving into the shower until spring. (I brush my teeth in there now, too.)

Keep in mind, different body parts may appreciate different soaps. I have a whole array of brushes, sponges, and soaps I employ in my routine.

And it differs at different times of year. Moisturizing soaps at least make me hope I'll stay snuggly in the dry winter weather, and citrus fools me into thinking I'm cool in the hot months. There's a nice lime soap I use sparingly-- expensive, and hard to get. I forget the brand (it's upstairs).

When buying I just follow my nose.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 10:17 AM

Only dirty people wash.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Becca72
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 11:17 AM

I use whatever won't give me hives. :-) I have very sensitive skin but have found that Bath and Body Works Rice Flower and Shea or White Tea and Ginger body washes are quite good. I don't use any bar soap anymore, but Ivory always worked well for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 11:32 AM

When I worked at hospital, I went to an in-service put on by the resident dematologist. He advised using soap only on those parts which may have excessive odor, underarms, genital area, etc. He also said not to towel dry as we wipe away any natural moisturising oils by doing so.

It is extremely dry out here with humidity usually in the single digits except when it snow. I get a product called "Na-PCA" at the health food store. It is a spray on of a natural enzyme which we have in our skin and which helps to moisturise. I spray it on after a bath, then follow it with lotion. I very rarely have dry patches any more.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 12:16 PM

I absolutely hate the smell of Irish Spring. Nasty, says I. I also use unscented, undyed, anything I can get. Bath soap, laundry soap, fabric softener, smokers candles, etc.

I get fed up (and sometimes even headaches and dizzyness) from the mixture of all different smells. The last dish soap I bought is 'rose' secented. I can't stand rose smell, but I have to use the damn stuff up.

If I must get a scented something, I try for a citrus smell. At least it smells 'clean' not cloying.

(My mother used to nearly bathe (I swear!) in Emeraude.....ugh, ugh, ugh.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 01:31 PM

My doctor recommended Dove Sensitive Skin Soap.

Bobad, in another thread you recommended Uremol 10 for itchy skin. It does seem to be better than the Neutraderm my doctor recommended, but I have used it for only 3-4 days. There are steam dozen 'dry skin' salves, etc., on the shelves, some good, some bad, but mostly mediocre.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: jacqui.c
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 02:10 PM

Jacqui's in the UK already and could bring back some Imperial Leather, if wanted. Not sure what the cost of mailing to Alaska would be but, if you are interested just send me a PM.

Due to skin problems I don't use soap - for my face I use a Ulay cleanser that doesn't require water - only available, it seems, in the UK, so I bring that back when I visit. For showering it's Ulay body wash and no towelling off - body lotion goes on wet skin and works well that way.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: bobad
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 02:44 PM

Q, one friend of mine to whom I suggested he try it, had badly dried skin on the backs of his fingers, they were scaly and cracked. He was prescribed steroid creams by his doc which did not help all that much. On my suggestion he had a pharmacist make up a salve containing urea (this was in New Brunswick where pharmacists can formulate as well as dispense medications) and it cleared the condition right up. He asked me why the hell his doctor didn't tell him about this stuff - the answer,I guess is that not all doctors know all things all of the time.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Peace
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 04:21 PM

"First I soak up good in gasoline to break down the surface tension of the dirt . . . ."

Rapaire neglected to mention that smokers shouldn't use this method of cleansing. The loud 'whooooosh' sound can hurt the ears, so singers and other musicians are hereby advised against emulating him.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: open mike
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 05:11 PM

i use kiss my face liquid soap mostly,(i get it by the gallon)
http://www.kissmyface.com/
http://www.kissmyfacewebstore.com/detail/KMF+800+OA/Liquid_Moisture_Soaps
or ShiKai. http://www.shikai.com/products/shower_gels.htm
I have found a dispenser made for dish washing soap
that creates a foam by adding bubbles of air--and i pump a
fluffy blob of soap in my hands before washing...this is easy
and takes less hands than rubbing a bar of soap to get lather.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 16 Dec 07 - 12:58 PM

'Imperial Leather' was the name of a fragrance first formulated (in the 19th Century?) for one of the Russian Czars. Apparently he was an enthusiastc horseman and wanted a fragrance which would remind him of saddle soap.
At some point (early 20th century?) this fragrance was incorporated into Cusson's soap - hence the 'Imperial Leather' brand of soap.
Cusson's was a family firm with a factory in Salford, UK. In the early 1970s they were bought out by a company of West African merchants called Paterson-Zochonis (PZ); the company is now called 'PZ Cussons'.
Until recently 'Imperial Leather' soap was manufactured in a factory in Nottingham, UK, but a couple of years ago this factory was closed down and manufacture moved to a factory in Thailand. The soap is now based on palm oil rather than tallow.

You may like to reflect on the effects of globalisation on local industries and palm oil plantations on the environment ...


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Maryrrf
Date: 16 Dec 07 - 08:53 PM

Jaqui is Oil of Ulay the same as Oil of Olay? I think it might be. Oil of Olay products are widely available here. Personally I like bodywashes (Suave is what I usually use) instead of bar soap. And I use Neutrogena body oil (or the generic equivalent - it's sesame oil) as a moisturizer.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Dec 07 - 11:28 PM

Ulay and Olay are product names of the same company.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Rowan
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 12:04 AM

First I soak up good in gasoline to break down the surface tension of the dirt . . . .

Peace alerted us to the most obvious of the problems Rapaire would encounter but JohninKansas hit the nail on the head with his mention of nasty additives. Look up the MSDS for petrol and you'll discover it has benzene in it, known as a carcinogen.

John's A good grade of kerosine, however, has few or no additives, and evaporates to the point of leaving no significant odor within an hour or two. reminds me of an occasion I had to use kero. The school at which I was teaching had a serious dose of headlice through the population. I didn't care for any of the seriously organophosphate shampoos, didn't have any teatree oil at hand and the shops had shut for the weekend. My partner took me in hand and carefully sponged kerosene right down to the roots where the nits were. Kero has the advantage of killing the nits as well as the lice.

The only cause for concern was that it was bitterly cold and the only comfortable place to do all this was in front of the only heat source at her place; the hearth of her open fireplace, with fire burning in place. Never a dull moment! And it worked.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: gnu
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 03:01 AM

Ivory soap floats.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Peace
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 01:37 PM

So do farts.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: maeve
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 02:37 PM

How about some goat's milk and vegetable glycerine hand soap, available here:

Hand Soap

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: maeve
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 06:11 PM

I wonder what face soap looks like?


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 06:20 PM

I don't like where this is going....I have visions of soap meant for, ummmm...other parts.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: maeve
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 06:35 PM

I thought you were joking, Bill D., until I did a search just now. I will not add any blue clicky. No. And that's all I'm saying. (blush)
*************************************

Sorry robomatic, I'd no intention of leading your thread down that path!

Let's talk olive oil, goat's milk, sea salt, herbs, tea tree oil, oatmeal, rose petals, clay...

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Rowan
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 07:02 PM

Maeve and Bill D might find the last lines of The Ballad of Idwal Slabs interesting and, possibly, relevant;

Beware of the places that sell you cheap braces
and the fellow that uses soft soap.


Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: robomatic
Date: 19 Dec 07 - 12:29 AM

Rowan that was bloody glorious and if I'd recited that earlier in me life, there's a good chancet I'd be hitched by now!


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Subject: RE: BS: A Question About Soap
From: Rowan
Date: 19 Dec 07 - 06:44 PM

Ah well, robomatic, if the truth be known I suspect my first wife had a lot of the attitudes (if not the rock climbing achievements) of Mary Jane Smith. Then again, I was the club secretary and wore braces. And the lads did form an honour guard with ice axes at our wedding.

Cheers, Rowan


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