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Davey Graham: what a waste

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GUEST,TB303 28 Nov 07 - 04:24 PM
GUEST,Carol-Ann Ballard 28 Sep 15 - 07:20 AM
GUEST,David E. 29 Sep 15 - 12:31 AM
The Sandman 29 Sep 15 - 03:45 AM
Will Fly 29 Sep 15 - 05:05 AM
GUEST,OldNicKilby 29 Sep 15 - 05:43 AM
GUEST,Carol-Ann Ballard 29 Sep 15 - 07:48 AM
GUEST,OldNicKilby 29 Sep 15 - 08:23 AM
GUEST,Carol-Ann Ballard 29 Sep 15 - 08:48 AM
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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: GUEST,TB303
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 04:24 PM

Just like to say, Last Saturday i went to another gig (The first since Davy @ The Lowry)

Went to see The Hives @ M/cr Apollo. What a band!!! Great live act. Been meaning to see them for years & finally got there. Highly recommended.

-303


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: GUEST,Carol-Ann Ballard
Date: 28 Sep 15 - 07:20 AM

Davey Graham was not on the internet. He was not the Davy Graham selling snippets from Nick Drake's robe on ebay; and he was not aware of this Thread till 1 June 2008 when he received his tour account - with the most cutting extracts from this thread attached. Those extracts were attached to explain why his total earnings for a 13 date tour were no more than £500 and most likely -£1,333. Take a further loss of management's 20% and a further loss from the CDs given away to disgruntled gig-goers at this concert and you will get a clearer picture. It was blatantly obvious that DG gave concerts in which he was paying for the privilege to be humiliated. The financial liability for the tour rested entirely on DG and was not shared with Management.
Your comments here on Mudcat were as good as an intervention - they actually helped Davey to understand what was going on (he requested a complete print out of the Thread and read them all). It was a sobering experience that supported his decision to cancel the 2008 tour dates. It was solely Davey's decision.
During his lifetime Davey seemed to have so little copyright control and now nobody dare speak up for fear of being silenced or sued. We are not all in the position of having a family member in the legal profession to protect us - or have access to unlimited funds for promoting ourselves. My voice will no doubt be deleted but as Davy's legacy is celebrated by the beautiful and the mighty please give a thought to the man behind the guitar: Should we walk out on him - then clap for another copycat guitarist who can't even play the bum notes gracefully?
Rise in Glory Davey x


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: GUEST,David E.
Date: 29 Sep 15 - 12:31 AM

Well that was interesting. Why, I wonder, does this come to light now? Intrigued.......

David E.


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: The Sandman
Date: 29 Sep 15 - 03:45 AM

Davey was an innovator and a fine musician.


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: Will Fly
Date: 29 Sep 15 - 05:05 AM

When I was a young and budding guitarist in the 1960s I fell under the spell of Davey Graham's guitar playing. I lived, ate and drank it. I practised the pieces on each album as they all came out, one after another. My favourite, in spite of the brilliance of "Folk, Blues and Beyond", was his Pye Golden Guinea album, "The Guitar Player" which - to me and many like me - was a seminal album of guitar music.

All that, as I say, was when I was in my early 20s and had just got to grips with the guitar. I then started to hitch-hike down to London, just to see DG at the Cousins - mainly all-nighters - and got the chance to talk to him and play with him on several occasions. He was a charming, courteous and fascinating man, and infinitely patient with a pestering young guitarist!

Fast forward to 1968 and the Cousins. A packed audience was staggered to see Davey, goggle-eyed and slurring, stagger on to a high stool - and fall off it on to the piano (which was at the back of the stage in those days). We all sadly left and got our money back. I remember seeing John Renbourn at the door, peering in with a grim smile on his face at the proceedings. It was heartbreaking.

I never saw him live again - just to keep the memory of his early stuff preserved. And, of course, as I got older and wiser and less tunnel-visioned, other musical influences kicked in. I grew up and, though I rarely play his albums now, his spirit and vision live on.

With the benefit of 50 years hindsight, I would say that, in the end, it's better to ignore his self-inflicted (yes, self-inflicted) drug problems and sad latter years - and remember a man who was absolutely unique in his day and the creator of a style of playing that influenced a generation of aspiring guitarists.


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 29 Sep 15 - 05:43 AM

Perhaps that it would be a good idea to see if we could get a "Blue Plaque " or even a "Green Plaque " that we have in Leicestershire to commemorate his birth place in Hinckley


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: GUEST,Carol-Ann Ballard
Date: 29 Sep 15 - 07:48 AM

Davey was born in Bosworth Hall - a stately home - then a refuge for his mother cause of the London bombings. He told me his granny had a scandalous encounter with the then Prince of England. He is down in the county records as being a 'bastard'. He was destined to be a King.

During Davey's last year he was taking control and shining. We travelled to Marrakech, Spain and Paris. He said he was holding the key to everything that ever pained him. He was becoming free - some folks really hated that…that is what is really sad.

In the hour leading to Davey's death someone involved in the Davey Celebration and the Stephen Gammond film called Davey a bastard. Something much more serious happened. It was not self-inflicted.

I spoke out but the folk singers went on singing - like a communal white wash.
They wilfully didn't ask questions, didn't want to know the context of their Celebrations or Film. Blanked me. Kept telling me it was the legacy that was important. Was his life worth less than the legacy? Celebrated both.

Davey was not a victim. He died a lion.

Join Care Not Killing.
Boycott Stephen Gammond's film. Make your own!
Get that plague on the Bosworth Hotel!


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 29 Sep 15 - 08:23 AM

Hello Carol-Ann, is that a "Yes " or rather not . Some of the local Guitarists think that it would be a fitting tribute to an amazing man


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: GUEST,Carol-Ann Ballard
Date: 29 Sep 15 - 08:48 AM

Definitely let's get the Davey Graham Blue Plaque on Bosworth Hall.
It would be a fitting tribute.


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Subject: RE: Davey Graham: what a waste
From: GUEST,OldNicKilby
Date: 29 Sep 15 - 10:09 AM

Blue one will be difficult as he has not been dead for 25 years, but there is a "Green " plaque scheme here , that is a possibility, if we can get enough people to recommend it


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