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BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08

wysiwyg 30 Mar 08 - 07:48 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Mar 08 - 07:48 AM

GO PENS!

GO MUDCATTER HOCKEY RATS!

It has been the tradition at Mudcat to encourage one another in one's encouragement of their teams, unlike the "trash talk" so common at umptyzillion other hockey discussion boards. Pseudolus began that tradition last year:
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus - PM
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 01:16 PM

....I have an idea...a small wager...no money, just pride. I like my Flyers and you like your Senators. The bet is this, whoever's team goes furthur wins the bet. The loser has to re-open this thread sometime next Spring and enter a post singing the praises of the winner's team. Aine seems pretty proud of her Stars, she may want in also. Just for fun, and bragging rights! whatdaya think?

Go Flyers,
Frank


Pseudolus' first hockey thread (CLICK) also had quite a few useful links in it, in addition to the ones in this thread.


Let's make this year's team list-- who's in, and who's your team?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 10:57 PM

Yes sir the Wings are coming back. Still some injuries but they are back. Three in a row.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:22 PM

All sports, all the time, that's me. :~)

There is a really sleazy "reality" show on US TV (VH1) where a houseful of girls are competing to be chosen as the Luv Bunny for a "rock star." One episode (I was waiting for my better half to come home from work late one night) had the girls doing a roller derby, while pushing a stroller with one of those babydolls in it that records how well you take care of it-- with REAL roller derby queens chasing them and out to schmear the "baby." There was no hockey on that night-- can you imagine????-- but the roller altercations were hilarious!

Pirate bedtime stories also resonate a lot like hockey. :~)

Go hockey!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 11:30 AM

I believe you have it Susan. You get a by, buy, bye, whatever in the first rounds of the Playoffs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 10:47 AM

Is that roller derby? Their version of an altercation during a race around the track?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 09:37 AM

Both great answers but no cigar. I guess I should have explained a little more. They are on roller skates with lots of elbows and hair pulling. Two teams of 5 I think. Both played by women and men. Gee it does sound like the Democratic primaries.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 11:52 PM

"What's the one that they fight like hell going around in a circle?"

Democratic primaries?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:05 PM

Stanley Cup faceoffs?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:21 PM

What's the one that they fight like hell going around in a circle?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:18 PM

PS, there is also ROLLERBLADE HOCKEY.

Not played on ice.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:17 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey

CASE CLOSED

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 08:26 PM

In the US there is ice hockey and field hockey.
In Canada there is Hockey and field hockey.
In England there is Football and American Football.
In Canada there Is Football and Canadian Football.
In the USA Football is Football.
In Australia, Aussie Rules.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: john f weldon
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 07:29 PM

If there is field hockey, it should be called field hockey to distinguish it from hockey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 04:15 PM

Since there is also field hockey, ice hockey is used to make the distinction clear.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: john f weldon
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 03:22 PM

Ice Hockey?
There is no such thing as Ice Hockey, despite the persistent use of this term by the British.

It is called Hockey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 11:43 PM

Just checked.
Way to go Penguins. Boy is that Eastern Division a good one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 11:41 PM

Still a bit weak but coming back. Just in time.
"Go Wings Go"


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Mooh
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:19 AM

The Leafs managed to ring shots off the posts last night, three bloody times! Sure, beat the goalie and miss the net, but that ring when puck meets post is pure primitive maddening insult. I thought they played well last night, even with less than stellar officiating. It might be an entertaining end of season.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:52 AM

Understand full well. The Wings have choked many a time. But I do enjoy their season of play.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Mooh
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:23 AM

Ha ha, Beer, good one, thanks.

At least they don't usually choke when they do get to the play-offs, they just get their collective asses kicked around the rink.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 09:24 PM

Here goe a try.
Leafs Win Cup


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Mooh
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 07:26 PM

Beer...Yeah sure, send it along. Heck, I remember when the Leafs last won the cup, just. I was 9 years old. Centennial year it was. Toronto Make-Me-Laugh fans have to be long-suffering, but don't forget, they've still won a lot of cups compared to most teams.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 02:47 PM

Good one Mooh. I have a great video clip of a headline on T.V. that reads "The Leafs Win The Stanley Cup". Then this little baby in a crib............ Have you seen it? I'll see if I can do this blue clicky thing but I doubt it. Any way it is funny especially if a maple leaf fan can take a ribbing.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Becca72
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 02:24 PM

LOL Mooh


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Mooh
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 01:39 PM

Go Leafs, Go! (golfing, to the beach, shopping, wherever...)

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 01:02 PM

"Go Wings Go"


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Becca72
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 11:23 AM

Go, Habs, Go!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 11:20 AM

I'm still cheering for the Senators because I used to live in Ottawa and the Canes because I'm in NC now. Both are in the hunt But neither are favorites. I'm not sure what happened to the Sens, they don't seem to have got worse since last year's cup finals. It seems that about 12 teams have got better. I live in interesting times.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: topical tom
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:42 PM

Watch out, folks! Here come LES CANADIENS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 07:57 PM

Go Wings!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 04:34 PM

Great. It should be a great end to the season and hopefully a great Stanly Cup.
My Wings are slowly getting back on their feet and should be ready as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 03:53 PM

Crosby's back, Crosby's back!
Penguins geared for big attack
Stanley Cup is in the sack
Don't ya know that Crosby's back!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 03:37 PM

Aw, c'MON, guys......

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 11:19 AM

Hey MudFans. Here's the current leaguewide standings.

How close is your team to making a playoff berth in your conference/division, and what do they GOTTA do to get in for SURE (to win games/points), in the next few weeks?

League Standings
RK GP W L   OT PTS GF GA HOME AWAY L10
1 DETROIT 66 42 18   6 90 205 148 21-8-2 21-10-4 1-7-2
2 DALLAS 69 41 23   5 87 207 171 21-11-2 20-12-3 7-3-0
3 MONTREAL 66 36 21   9 81 209 184 16-12-5 20-9-4 7-3-0
4 ANAHEIM 67 37 23   7 81 170 164 21-8-4 16-15-3 9-1-0
5 SAN JOSE 65 36 21   8 80 170 155 14-13-5 22-8-3 5-4-1
6 OTTAWA 66 37 23   6 80 216 199 20-12-3 17-11-3 3-5-2
7 NEW JERSEY 66 37 23   6 80 172 156 21-12-1 16-11-5 6-2-2
8 PITTSBURGH 66 36 23   7 79 195 183 18-10-5 18-13-2 4-4-2
9 MINNESOTA 65 36 24   5 77 177 176 18-10-3 18-14-2 5-4-1
10 CALGARY 66 34 23   9 77 186 185 16-10-8 18-13-1 6-3-1
11 BOSTON 64 35 23   6 76 177 170 17-12-3 18-11-3 7-2-1
12 VANCOUVER 64 32 22   10 74 171 163 17-11-5 15-11-5 6-1-3
13 NY RANGERS 65 33 24   8 74 170 160 20-13-0 13-11-8 6-2-2
14 COLORADO 66 34 26   6 74 183 180 19-11-2 15-15-4 4-5-1
15 NASHVILLE 66 33 25   8 74 193 190 20-10-4 13-15-4 5-3-2
16 PHILADELPHIA 65 33 25   7 73 199 184 14-12-6 19-13-1 3-5-2
17 CAROLINA 68 34 29   5 73 203 213 19-12-3 15-17-2 7-2-1
18 BUFFALO 65 31 25   9 71 198 188 17-11-4 14-14-5 5-4-1
19 PHOENIX 66 33 28   5 71 176 176 14-15-3 19-13-2 5-4-1
20 NY ISLANDERS 66 31 28   7 69 164 192 17-14-3 14-14-4 7-3-0
21 COLUMBUS 66 30 27   9 69 161 172 16-10-6 14-17-3 4-4-2
22 WASHINGTON 66 30 28   8 68 187 200 16-14-3 14-14-5 4-3-3
23 TORONTO 67 29 28   10 68 186 208 16-12-5 13-16-5 6-3-1
24 CHICAGO 64 30 28   6 66 183 187 16-13-1 14-15-5 6-3-1
25 ST LOUIS 65 28 27   10 66 161 180 18-13-5 10-14-5 3-5-2
26 EDMONTON 65 30 30   5 65 178 197 18-14-1 12-16-4 6-4-0
27 ATLANTA 66 29 31   6 64 176 216 16-14-3 13-17-3 3-5-2
28 FLORIDA 67 28 31   8 64 180 196 12-13-7 16-18-1 2-5-3
29 TAMPA BAY 65 26 32   7 59 183 213 16-16-2 10-16-5 3-5-2
30 LOS ANGELES 66 26 36   4 56 192 222 14-17-2 12-19-2 3-6-1

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app?page=TeamStandings&season=20072008&service=page&type=LEA

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 02:52 PM

First, I am so sad that the Pens lost Colby Armstrong and Angelo Esposito (at the trade deadline), I almost cried. Christenson, well... I like a guy who will hit as needed, so what can I say. Great potential, but not worth keeping on the roster/salary cap for shootouts, and our goalies have lots of knowledge about his shootouts. And there are no shootouts in the playoffs.

Who we got? Of course I see the potential with Hossa and Gill. Dupuis I have never really noticed.

But as Hardi and I processed the news while catching parts of last night's game, and as we headed up to bed, for us it all came down to one question:

"Does tonight's videotape count as a "classic" to preserve (either as-is or in DVD format)?"

And we both instinctively came to the same conclusion-- that it's worth keeping until the Cup is decided, and THEN we'll know if it's a keeper and, if so, in what format! :~) It was a new tape, so I'll do like I did with Sid's Gordie Howe hat trick, and with New-Arena Madness, and add the rest of Hossa-mania to it over the next few days.

???

But right now I'm thinking of Petr Sykora's twinkling eyes as he said last night that he was looking forward to seeing Hossa "play with Sid." Sykora ALSO was bought to play with Sid, but is doing best with Malkin (they played together in Russia). I think he was articulating our thought-- that playing with Sid is a tricky business, and there are no guarantees. Oh, lots of guys SHOULD be able to do it, but...... as far as I can recall, only Colby actually DID it.

Too bad they don't do auditions in the NHL, eh?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 10:30 AM

Good job Wings!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 05:04 PM

I'm shocked too.

I do believe that I'm so shocked that my face needs duct tape to shut my 5-hole.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: gnu
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 04:19 PM

Hockey players did that? Gee.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 10:41 AM

When Your League Folds, Just Go on a Rampage
Vikings Go On Rampage At Lodge
By Patrick Fanelli pfanelli@post-journal.com

Players Destroy Historic Building

2/15/2008 - Presumedly seeking revenge against the Mid-Atlantic Hockey League for calling it quits in the middle of the season, several players with the Jamestown Vikings trashed the historic Vikings Lodge on the corner of Washington and West Fourth Street early Thursday, leaving most of the building in shambles.

Trash and debris were everywhere, especially on the second and third floors where the stench of beer and rotting food was almost overpowering. Bar stools were smashed through doors, and virtually every piece of glass in the building had been shattered, the broken shards unavoidable underfoot.

''They were on a drunken rampage,'' said Greg Moran, a building inspector with the city Department of Development, who was called to the scene once police learned of the destruction. ''I was absolutely appalled. ... Some of this stuff is probably irreplaceable.''

For police, the first sign of trouble was a chair that had been thrown through the storefront window facing Washington Street. When police arrived to investigate, they found the place a wreck and more than a dozen people — players as well as their friends — passed out drunk throughout the building.

''We were called here early this morning at about 7:30 after we received a report that a chair had been thrown through the window,'' said Lt. Todd Isaacson of the Jamestown Police Department. ''The unit on scene initially observed a significant amount of criminal mischief as they entered the building. ... After the officers arrive at the scene, they realized that numerous players were involved and additional assistance was needed.''

Police removed the individuals from the building after they had been identified.

Isaacson and other officials with the Jamestown Police Department spoke to reporters in the ballroom on the third floor of the century-old, four-story building. The ballroom was littered with junk and paint had actually been thrown about the space, but luckily, the intricate woodwork that decorates the hall remained intact.

''To see the condition of this building was more than disappointing,'' said Det. Art Osterdahl, who has been a member of the Order of Vikings for more than two decades. ''When I was downstairs, seeing some of the rooms the children used to play in, it really hit close to home.''

Mid-Atlantic Hockey League officials announced Wednesday that they would be cancelling the rest of the season to re-organize and start fresh in 2008-09, though many of those associated with the league believe that is unlikely to happen. Ticket sales were reportedly extremely low for three of the new league's five teams — though they were reportedly much more competitive for the Valley Forge Freedom from Oaks, Pa. and the Jamestown Vikings.

But across the board, the league has reportedly been buried underneath a growing pile of debt with thousands of dollars owed to players. That has resulted in hostile relations between players and league officials like Andrew Haines, league president and Vikings owner.

Many believe the hostile relationship was what drove the players to trash the Vikings Lodge late Wednesday, though officials with the Jamestown Savings Bank Ice Arena said they made it clear to them that Haines did not own the building.

''It has historic significance to everyone,'' said Michael Ferguson, ice arena general manager. ''I said this building had been there for generations in the community, and one of the excuses I got from one of the players was, 'Well, we didn't believe that. We thought it was Andrew's.' ''

But Ferguson said he didn't believe that excuse, since he had told players repeatedly that Haines didn't own the building. The building is actually owned by a Florida resident who acquired it when it was auctioned by the Order of Vikings in recent years.

In the early 20th century, the building was home to the Eagles Temple, and then to the Jamestown Business College. It wasn't until 1941 that it was sold to the Order of Vikings.

The owner is reportedly en route to Jamestown to inspect the damage.

Ferguson was saddened to learn of the season's sudden cancellation and offered the arena's help to the players in the wake of the announcement — though he was not prepared to get the call early Thursday and learn what some of the players had done.

''I'm ashamed, and it broke my heart when I walked in this morning,'' Ferguson said. ''When we addressed the team yesterday when they had been abandoned by the league, we were trying everything we could to support them.''

But not all the players were involved, according to Ferguson.

''To tell you the truth, a good portion of the team had already left town. A lot of the players already knew they weren't going to get money out of the league and had already packed up,'' Ferguson said.

For Zach Kane, a Jamestown native who played as a defenseman with the Vikings, that's the worst of it — the fact that the wreckage of the Vikings Lodge has hurt the reputation of the entire team, even those who weren't involved with the incident.

''They more or less disgraced themselves and the team,'' said Kane, who had a handful of players who wanted no part in the mayhem over at his family's house that night. ''The players were fed up from the beginning. ... But still, what happened last night had no reason for happening.''

Police say they will work with the Chautauqua County District Attorney's Office and pursue charges against those involved with the incident. Most importantly, according to Isaacson, they hope to ensure the building is restored to the condition it was in before the players relocated there.

''Obviously, the goal here for everyone in the community is to get this up to the way it was,'' said Isaacson, who conservatively estimated the damage to be at least $25,000 and described the act as ''egregious'' and ''intolerable.''

Though many of the players have left town, Isaacson said police will be able to make contact with them if need be. He also said it is possible that some of those responsible may end up serving jail time.

''I don't think that would be a stretch,'' Isaacson said.

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(Bold headline from another website's coverage)

Accorindg to the Headline News coverage, the "owner" they'd targeted? No longer owned that building.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: gnu
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 04:58 AM

Thanks ~S~.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 10:28 PM

In our last (first) hockey thread there was a discussion about 2 years ago on the new rule changes. I was against them as it was slowing down the game. Well I'm glad I didn't make any bets as I would be eating my hat now. The game in my humble opinion have improved tremendously. The players have adapted and the play has gotten must faster and the stars can do a lot more showing their skills by not being grabbed as much. I'm getting a definite second interest in it. I really don't think about their salaries as they play their game. It is only when someone bring it up that I am reminded.
"Go Wings Go"


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 11:59 AM

He's a hockey geek, and has always, since childhood, come across as mature and level-headed. So he's just being himself, and the press super-hypes his "maturity" along with everything else they hype about him. He still lives at Mario Lemieux's house, so I think he has all the support that could be possible. He loves to play with Mario's kids, for example. But he hasn't lived at home since I dunno when-- HS I know was a billeted hockey experience.

So I think he's probably really doing fine with the pressure and has pressure-release valves with the Lemieux family. His own dad was a hockey man as well, so it's all good.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 04:49 AM

~S~.... Haven't followed any of it much. But, what I have seen sure is a heck of a lot of hype. How is Crosby "handling it"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 12:02 AM

Go Wings, though!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 11:19 PM

I think that is 4 in a row the Wings have lost.
Interesting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 10:30 AM

Clarification-- I LIKE Crosby, and I think he is a great player-- I just think hype is hype is hype, and Pens fans know that there is a whole team there, not just one guy.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 09:39 AM

Have the Cubs played the Blue Jays yet?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Mooh
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 07:12 AM

Beer,

Yeah, Harold Ballard isn't alone in hockey hell. Some thugs are on the ice, some are not, I guess.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Beer
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 10:00 PM

Mooh, I can relate to your situation. I have been a die hard Wing fan all my life. When Ned Harkness came in the picture and destroyed the team I was heart broken but never tossed in the towel.
Here is a pasted clip.

Ned Harkness (born September 19, 1921 in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada) was a successful NCAA head coach of ice hockey and lacrosse at Cornell University and Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and of ice hockey at Union College. Harkness was also head coach of the Detroit Red Wings and later was the team's general manager. He was inducted into the Lake Placid Hall of Fame in 1993, the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame in 2001 and into the RPI Hockey Ring of Honor in 2007.

Great credentials but.......Ah let it be I guess. Still, he destroyed the team.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ice Hockey 2007-08
From: Mooh
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 09:39 PM

The Toronto MakeMeLaughs, as strange as they behave sometimes, are still my team. I own them, just as generations of fans have owned them.

Go Leafs Go! (Hey, where did they go?)

Peace, Mooh.


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