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DG MELODEON WANTED

oakchipper 23 Sep 07 - 05:05 AM
Richard Bridge 23 Sep 07 - 05:24 AM
Long Firm Freddie 23 Sep 07 - 06:26 AM
greg stephens 23 Sep 07 - 06:52 AM
Leadfingers 23 Sep 07 - 07:06 AM
terrier 23 Sep 07 - 08:15 AM
Liz the Squeak 23 Sep 07 - 08:25 AM
the button 23 Sep 07 - 08:25 AM
treewind 23 Sep 07 - 08:42 AM
treewind 23 Sep 07 - 08:43 AM
terrier 23 Sep 07 - 10:27 AM
Rowan 23 Sep 07 - 06:20 PM
Ruth Archer 23 Sep 07 - 06:59 PM
Schantieman 24 Sep 07 - 04:36 AM
Megan L 24 Sep 07 - 04:56 AM
GUEST,martin ellison 24 Sep 07 - 05:53 AM
Liz the Squeak 24 Sep 07 - 01:38 PM
Greg B 24 Sep 07 - 02:18 PM
Rowan 24 Sep 07 - 06:05 PM
Rowan 24 Sep 07 - 06:12 PM
Mr Happy 03 Nov 07 - 04:29 PM
melodeonboy 03 Nov 07 - 04:43 PM
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Subject: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: oakchipper
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 05:05 AM

Don't know if this ok but hopefully someone may be able to help.
Looking for DG melodeon,Castagnari prefered,2 row or 2.5 row,
Have also request on melodeon.net.
Many thanks.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 05:24 AM

Hobgoblin have them from £1045 here


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Long Firm Freddie
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 06:26 AM

Eagle Music have them for £895 here

LFF


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: greg stephens
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 06:52 AM

Call me old-fashioned, nut I still prefer the sound of a Hohner Erica. But good luck in your quest.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Leadfingers
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 07:06 AM

Any thing to oblige - Greg , You're Old Fashioned !


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: terrier
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 08:15 AM

OK, so maybe I'm a skinflint, but for the life of me I can't see how Castnageri can justify charging exhorbitant prices for a box with some reeds in it! I've got nothing against melodions, or whatever name is given to them nowdays, I've played all sorts of boxes over the years and Castnagari seem no better to me than other good makes that reteil at half the price. 'Fasion attatchment' comes to mind!
I'm not trying to be rude, just my take on it.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 08:25 AM

Oakchipper, , there are a selection of melodeons belonging to Manitas... if you can do him in and make it look like an accident, you can take your pick before I cremate the rest with him!

LTS


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: the button
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 08:25 AM

I'm still quite attached my old Erica A/D/G box. Weighs a ton, with that lovely glow-in-the-dark red perloid finish.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: treewind
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 08:42 AM

"Castnagari seem no better to me than other good makes"

The only Castagnari I play is a Max (1 row 4 voice)
Compared with the Hohner 1-rows (of which I have 2 as well) it can't get near that "East Anglian pub music" sound which the Hohners have, but it is incredibly fast and responsive. It will go very loud if played hard, but can be used for song accompaniments with all four stops out and the notes still respond instantly to subtle changes of dynamic even when played quietly.

Any old "box with some reeds in it" simply doesn't respond that way!

I also have an Oakwood that is fast and loud but rubbish if you try to play it quietly. And a Saltarelle which is good for playing quietly and stopping down to single reed for songs, but it's general tonal quality isn't wonderful.

But then I'm not a guitar player, and any old "box with strings on it" sounds about the same to me too!

Anahata


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: treewind
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 08:43 AM

P.S. I should add that I agree to some extent, that Castagnari have a premium because of their name. But their good boxes really are good.

A.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: terrier
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 10:27 AM

Thanks Treewind, as I said,just my take on it, I'm not trying to play devil's advocate. Maybe the Castnagarii I've played wern't the top of the range ones but I was not overly impressed with them considering the price.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Rowan
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 06:20 PM

You guys have some interesting boxes. All the Ericas I've seen were 2-rowers and the only 3-row Hohner A/D/G boxes were Corona II (doubled reeds) or Corona III (tripled reeds.

And, like treewind, I do prefer my '4 cotton-reel' voiced 1-row Hohner melodeons

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 23 Sep 07 - 06:59 PM

I'm just saying, as I can't even play the melodeon and am a complete novice learner, but...

Hohner have just come out with a new series of melodeons which have wooden bodies and Italian reeds, and have minimised the tappy-tappy percussiveness normally associated with Hohners. Apparently they're trying to compete against the Italian market, but not in pricing. A few (rather good) melodeon players that I know have either had a go before or after I bought mine, and thought that for the quality, it is very good value for money, which is £600.

It's a Honhner Morgane II. I find it loves playing the Dorset 4-Hand Reel.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Schantieman
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 04:36 AM

My pokerwork DG cost £45 (plus straps and case) and is still going strong. But that *was* in 1975!

Steve


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Megan L
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 04:56 AM

Liz yev already paid for Manitas tae come tae the McMudgather ye dinny want tae waste yer money ye'll no get a refund.
Mind oan its better the diel ye ken


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: GUEST,martin ellison
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 05:53 AM

Schantieman - beat you on this one £37.50 for my first pokerwork. I'm sorry to say that it is no longer with us but happy that it lived a full and eventful life despite needing some surgery towards the end.
Martin


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 01:38 PM

Sshhh... Megan, I haven't paid, he has!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Greg B
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 02:18 PM

When Castagnaris are good they are very very good. My Tommy D/G box
is well into its second decade of use, and has never even been
opened up--- no reason to!

I've seen one or two that weren't up to standard. I do believe they
have different grades of reeds--- I'm using their hand-cut ones. You
must try the very instrument you intend to play. Be aware that
Castagnari bellows can be quite stiff when new.

When I wanted a bit more tonal flexibility, I picked up a Salterelle
Nuage several years back. If I can take only one box, it goes.
Heavier than the Tommy, not QUITE so quick and flat fingerboard,
though I don't participate in the flat-vs-stepped controversy.
Probably easier to play due to larger bellows; the reeds don't
really use any more air than the Tommy. I like being able to
switch any of the three treble reeds off, and to remove the low
basses and thirds over on the left.

The Tommy 'speaks' quickly--- in fact it speaks more quickly
than anything else I own--- as fast, say, as my Colin Dipper
restored Wheatstone Aeola English concertina. If you figured
out the fingering, you could play 'Flight of the Bumblebee'
on it.

While I do respect the Hohner instruments (I own several) to say
nothing of the noise guys like Tony Hall and our Martin can get
out of them, my biggest issue with them is the action. Either you
fall down the hole, or find ways to avoid it. If you put a piece of
wood in to make it stop, you really open yourself up to carpal tunnel
syndrome if you play a lot. A bit of high density foam rubber is
better.

Almost all of them need tuning from the factory to make them right,
and this adds to the cost.

However I'd choose the real, European made' 'Weiner' (Pokerwork) or
Erica or Corso or Corona II/III over anything made in the Orient,
any day. In fact, I still maintain that the German-made Weiner is
the minimum serviceable instrument for anyone wanting to play the
melodeon properly.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Rowan
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 06:05 PM

Schantieman and Martin should have been looking in the window at Allan's Music in Collins St Melbourne when I saw a Hohner pokerwork '4 cotton-reel' voiced 1-row Hohner melodeon in C, with a price tag of $30. It was missing one of the bass end spoon levers so I got them to knock $10 off their price. Kurt Jacob (lovely man), who was the Oz distributor for Hohner and in Sydney, sent me a new lever for $2. OK, it was 1977, but I've loved its tone and it regularly goes to Nariel for Christmas.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Rowan
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 06:12 PM

In fact, I liked the tone so much I searched and searched until I found other secondhand ones in D & G, but they cost a bit more. I still haven't worked out how to play them both at once, though.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Mr Happy
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 04:29 PM

Czech Republic do best prices for quality instruments.

I play Delicias, here's the contact page[s] http://www.harmoniky.cz/en/company


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: melodeonboy
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 04:43 PM

I've got a Czech-made Delicia myself. I bought it about five years ago for £440 and I'm extremely pleased with it. However, at Sidmouth last year I saw the same model for £890. I questioned the stalllholder, thinking that he'd got the price wrong. He told me that since The Czech Republic joined the EU, prices had increased dramatically.

This year at Sidmouth, the same stallholder informed me that he was no longer selling them due to the steep increase in price. It therefore seems likely that they're not the great bargain they once were.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Mr Happy
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 06:01 PM

My Delicia 'Popular' cost £75 2nd hand 15 yrs ago.

Me B/C 'Popular' was £200 quid new in'99.

Ye can still get 'em here at Music Room, Hobgoblin, Dave Jolly's, Pete Grassby's for similar/equiv 07 prices.

Or have a gander on E Bay.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Mr Happy
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 06:04 PM

Also Rees Wesson, here:

http://mysite.orange.co.uk/melodeons.com/index.html


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 07 - 05:16 AM

I have a DG Pokerwork up for grabs if anyone is interested ,(cant be bothered with ebay)In Leeds/Bradford area of the UK ,, anyone interested mail me off group (can you do that, I dunno, never tried)

......... Smurf


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: smurf
Date: 05 Nov 07 - 05:18 AM

Opps, didn't realise me cookie was gane

......... Smurf


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: IanC
Date: 05 Nov 07 - 06:19 AM

Smurf ... I've PM'd you.


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Subject: RE: DG MELODEON WANTED
From: Fidjit
Date: 05 Nov 07 - 07:12 AM

Music room have some her Like Greg I like my Saltarelle

But for lots of noise a Dino Baffetti Wow!

Chas
Anyone going to Melodeons at Witney this weeken See you there.


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