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GUEST,taupi 01 Sep 07 - 06:21 AM
John MacKenzie 01 Sep 07 - 06:43 AM
GUEST,taupi 01 Sep 07 - 06:47 AM
Mo the caller 01 Sep 07 - 07:01 AM
Mo the caller 01 Sep 07 - 07:04 AM
John MacKenzie 01 Sep 07 - 07:07 AM
John MacKenzie 01 Sep 07 - 07:09 AM
GUEST,taupi 01 Sep 07 - 07:14 AM
The Fooles Troupe 01 Sep 07 - 07:16 AM
John MacKenzie 01 Sep 07 - 07:20 AM
GUEST,taupi 01 Sep 07 - 07:31 AM
The Fooles Troupe 01 Sep 07 - 07:31 AM
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GUEST,taupi 01 Sep 07 - 07:56 AM
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GUEST,taupi 01 Sep 07 - 08:28 AM
Partridge 08 Sep 07 - 05:16 AM
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GUEST,GHS 08 Sep 07 - 08:32 AM
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Subject: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,taupi
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 06:21 AM

something petty officer once announced at the end of the line? (5,6)

the third letter of the first word is A - definitely

The fist letter of the first word might be S

Many of the clues depend on getting this and I'm stuck.

any help would be appreciated

thanks

taupi


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 06:43 AM

Final ..... something, possibly including the letters PO for petty officer.
G
I'm working on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,taupi
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 06:47 AM

The maybe S is from the clue

When special forces get the wrong killer

I thought it might be assassin

Taupi


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Mo the caller
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:01 AM

assassin sounds likely.as SAS sin.
I thought final too, but you said the third letter A, not the fourth


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Mo the caller
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:04 AM

Could it start with state d-----


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:07 AM

Small minded?


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:09 AM

Small something anyway, the answer is something petty, not petty officer.
G


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,taupi
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:14 AM

as in something petty, it could be but what about the rest of the clue? I cant get it to match.

Heres another
Nothing reflected spot on lacy item without end product of flax (7,3)

thanks for the help

Taupi


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:16 AM

Petty Change?


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:20 AM

Nothing is nil, and backwards it is Lin and linen is the end product of flax, but then I'm stuck


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,taupi
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:31 AM

I think it could be small change as another clue is "maker of 5 across's 18"(6)

5 across is leather and 18 could be small change, I think the answer might be purser

Taupi


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:31 AM

"Change at the end of the line" is a vernacular English phrase, but the letters you gave cannot match, however 'petty change' is 5,6 ...


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:52 AM

nil backwards is lin, spot is see, doily is a lacy thing - take the y off and you have linseed oil


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,taupi
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:56 AM

Thanks!


Very frightened by a direction to pile on points (7-3)

Taupi


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 08:02 AM

no probs

18 is small change

'all change' is announced at the end of the underground line

SM is sergeant major


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,taupi
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 08:28 AM

thanks!


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 05:16 AM

What happened nearly 130 years ago to Greek character at the end of every game - a bloomer from hell? (3,3,6,8)

18 Insert fish - mine was Trout (8)

How 40s celebrate Burns week ending giddy with excitement (4,8)

Silver complement perhaps to 23, singularly warmer (4,4)

9 Bell of Breton origin (6)

10 Burns's spirit has reprised 18's oeuvre (4)

11 Several workers' joint occupation (10)


Any ideas?


Pat xx


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,anon
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 08:07 AM

40th wedding anniversary is Ruby - so anagram of of giddy, burns and we (for week) gives us RUBY WEDDINGS


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,GHS
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 08:32 AM

Bloomer from hell - di's aster = diaster.   The Tay Bridge disaster (Theta -y-bridge.
Good luck


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,gordian
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 10:38 AM

don't see why we should halp you win the guardian prize - but:

18 fish (chub) in "sert" gives you Schubert who wrote the trout quartet.


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,gordian
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 10:46 AM

7 ac is long john (complement to silver, also to clare short -23) warmer in the singular


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 02:14 PM

Many thanks for your efforts, no I wont win the Guarian prize - its not the object - I just want to get my head round the clues, a learning process.

Pat xxx


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 04:24 AM

10 Burns's spirit has reprised 18's oeuvre (4)

Deil (De'il = Devil for Burns, lied backwards)

11 Several workers' joint occupation (10)

Ten ants hip => tenantship

is that all of them?


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 08:38 AM

Yes thanks, Jon I think I managed the rest, have to wait a week to see if they are correct.

I try to do the Guardian crossword everyday. Monday is the easiest usually and it gets harder as the week progresses. Saturdays is usually a killer.

My favourite recent clue was this:-

persuade three edjets? 2,2,2,2,2,2

can you get it?

Pat xx


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,Paul & Lin
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:27 AM

We think "Bell of Breton origin" is Bronte (anagram of Breton.

Any ideas about 2d?


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,Paul & Lin
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:40 AM

Hi Pat

Just got 2d - EGAL (say = e.g., a l = one left; egal sounds like eagle, and means 'same').

Hope you're enjoying getting to grips with the cryptic stuff - fun, isn't it!

By the way, are you going to let us into the secret of the "persuade 3 edjets clue?!

Our favourite was "Dis duck or dat duck?" - 5,4

Paul & Lin


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:52 AM

The answer is go on, go on, go on

The crossword had a loose Father Ted theme

Pat xx

PS whats the answer to the ducks?


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 12:12 PM

eider down?


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 12:14 PM

Eider duck


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 12:46 PM

Did you see the bank holiday crossword on the saturday before the the holiday, it was two crosswords with the clues mixed together, I didn't manage to finish either. A real stinker!

Pat xx


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 06:25 PM

Were they meant to be mixed? After all it was the Grauniad!
G ¦¬]


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,Brigadier Barmy (Harrogate)
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 11:56 AM

ref. Bell of Breton origin
Try Bronte, Charlotte wrote poetry under the name Acton Bell.


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Micca
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 04:34 PM

The 2 I liked most from years ago were
1. hear of a new sexual perversion (5,2,4,4)
2 ABCDEFGPQRSTUVWXYZ (5)


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: PMB
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 05:26 AM

(1) Prick up your ears
(2) water


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,micca at work
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 06:31 AM

Correct PMB


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 07:22 AM

My all-time favourite cryptic clue is:
"Over-burdened mailman"


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 04:43 AM

and the answer is ????

Pat xx

PS One of my favourites was this

el 3, 6, 11,


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: PMB
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 06:11 AM

The ducks- eider duck.

Mailman... how many words? Could be 'driven from pillar to post' at a stretch.


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Trevor
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 07:50 AM

What about this, from the Telegraph a few years ago:

E (13)


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Trevor
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 07:53 AM

Partridge, is that el (3,6,11), or el3 (6,11)?


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 08:52 AM

el (3,6,11)

sorry trevor


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 09:14 AM

Partridg & PMB,
for "Over-burdened mailman" you were supposed to ask "How many letters"


Ans. Thousands & Thousands.


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 01:48 PM

Thanks Ed.


pat xx


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Trevor
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 12:12 PM

If it was EL?(3,7,11) - note the question mark - the answer might be The Spanish Inquisition.

And just because I can't stand not telling you, my one above - E(13) is Senselessness.


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Subject: RE: BS: cryptic help please
From: Partridge
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 02:45 PM

ooo er........ I made a mistake Trevor (I can't count)

It should have been (3, 6, 10)

Very sorry - I'll give you the answer tomorrow - if you still need it

Pat xxx


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