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Bible School songs

Kent Davis 23 Aug 07 - 09:56 PM
Azizi 23 Aug 07 - 10:07 PM
Azizi 23 Aug 07 - 10:25 PM
Azizi 23 Aug 07 - 10:38 PM
frogprince 23 Aug 07 - 10:50 PM
Kent Davis 23 Aug 07 - 10:51 PM
frogprince 23 Aug 07 - 11:00 PM
Joe Offer 24 Aug 07 - 12:52 AM
Azizi 24 Aug 07 - 02:25 AM
Azizi 24 Aug 07 - 02:28 AM
Megan L 24 Aug 07 - 03:51 AM
Kaleea 24 Aug 07 - 08:55 PM
Kent Davis 24 Aug 07 - 11:09 PM
Azizi 25 Aug 07 - 12:35 AM
Azizi 25 Aug 07 - 12:40 AM
SharonA 25 Aug 07 - 04:58 AM
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cetmst 25 Aug 07 - 06:33 AM
Kent Davis 25 Aug 07 - 12:01 PM
Joybell 25 Aug 07 - 06:22 PM
frogprince 25 Aug 07 - 06:37 PM
Janie 25 Aug 07 - 07:49 PM
Mo the caller 26 Aug 07 - 08:18 AM
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Azizi 26 Aug 07 - 11:14 AM
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Subject: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 09:56 PM

Here's one I learned from my mother, who learned it in the late '40s or early '50s in Lashmeet, WV. What are some of your old favorites?

I've got the joy, joy, joy, joy,
down in my heart, down in my heart, down in my heart,
I've got the joy, joy, joy, joy,
down in my heart, down in my heart to stay.

I've got the love of Jesus, love of Jesus,
down in my heart, down in my heart, down in my heart,
I've got the love of Jesus, love of Jesus,
down in my heart, down in my heart to stay.

I've got the peace that passeth understanding,
down in my heart, down in my heart, down in my heart,
I've got the peace that passeth understanding,
down in my heart, down in my heart to stay.

Kent Davis


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 10:07 PM

Here's one I remember from Atlantic City New Jersey in the 1950s

B-I-B-L-E
That's the book for me.
The Bible teaches right from wrong
so B-I-B-L-E

[I remember singing this song as a young child while walking down the sidewalk with a partner in a procession of other children with some lady at the head of the line. This lady led my sisters, and me, and other children to her church's Vacation Bible School. I remember that lady encouring us to sing that verse again by saying "Once again, now!" at the end of the song's last line. That line has become part of the song for me.}


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 10:25 PM

Here's a Bible School song that I had posted on another Mudcat thread {posted with a correction to a typo. Note: the first two words of the verse are sung much slower than the rest of the verse}:

Ohooo the
the wise man built his house upon the rock
house upon the rock
house upon the rock
the wise man built his house upon the rock
{but the foolish man built on the sand}???

Then the
water came and sweep away the sand
swep away the sand
swep away the sand
the water came up and swep away the sand
but the rock house it still stands...

**

Btw, Kent, I know your "I got joy" song but I'm pretty sure that I didn't know this song as a child. I just heard my home church's {in Atlantic City} children's choir sing this song last summer.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 10:38 PM

I meant to mention that Mudcatter Fliss {from Wales} shared her {his?} version of "A Wise Men Built His House" song on the RE: Back of Bus Songs thread here:

thread.cfm?threadid=36629#1387597

And

Guest Cathy shared her version of that song on that same thread here:
thread.cfm?threadid=36629#1982518


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 10:50 PM

Interesting, Azizi; What we learned was just the same, only quite a bit different : )

The wise man built his house upon the rock (repeat twice more)
And the rains came tumbling down.
The rains came down and the floods came up (repeat twice more)
And the house on the rock stood firm.
The foolish man built his house upon the sand (twice more)
And the rains came tumbling down.
The rains came down and the floods came up (twice more)
And the house on the sand went smash
So build your house on the Lord Jesus Christ (twice more)
And the blessings will come down.
The blessings will come down as the prayers go up (twice more)
So build your house on the Lord.
            
Watch carefully now, and I'll teach you the hand movements to go
with it...: )                         Dean


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 10:51 PM

The version of "The B-I-B-L-E" I learned from my mother was a little different:

The B-I-B-L-E,
Yes, that's the book for me,
I stand alone on the Word of God,
The B-I-B-L-E.

Kent


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 11:00 PM

There were additional verses for "I've got the Joy" that I never heard in Sunday School, but rather got in gatherings of Christian servicemen who were partly worshipping and partly goofing off.

I've got the wonderful love of my blessed redeemer way down in the depths of my heart!   
WHERE?
Way down in the depths of my heart...

I've got the Christ who confuses cantankerous communists down in the depths of my heart... (not really about politics, just a dumb tonguetwister/challange to jam all the words in thing.)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 12:52 AM

We had some other verses for "Joy, Joy, Joy":
    I've got that faith that frustrates flagging feelings...
    I've got that trust that tickles tired tonsils...
    I've got that love that loosens lonely longings...
    I've got the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 02:25 AM

Here's another song I remember learning as a child in either {summer} Vacation Bible school, or church {Atlantic Cit, New Jersey, 1950s:

Jesus loves the little children,
All the children of the world.
Red and yellow, black and white
They are precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children
of the world.

-snip-

Note: this was sung at a time when Black Americans called outselves Negores or Colored people. It was also sung at a time when it was okay to refer to Native Americans as "red" people, and Asian people as "yellow" people. I think that on the conscious level, we repeated the words by rote memory, and it didn't register that we were calling ourselves "black". In the real world, we would have rejected that descriptor. To be called "blackie" was a real insult then {and unfortunately is still considered to be an insult today among African American children who are growing up at a time when "Black" is the accepted informal referent for African American people and other people of African descent}. But on another level, it was nice to know that skin color wasn't/isn't relevant to Jesus since all the little children "are precious in His sight". And maybe this song helped me {and other folks} develop & reinforce a positive sense of group esteem which I believe is an integral part of a positive self-concept.

I'm curious to know if other folks learned "Jesus Loves The Little Children" in their childhood. It would also be interesting to hear how any Native Americans or Asians {who might have learned that song or heard that song} felt about being referred to as "red" or "yellow". Since that "white" referent is still used, I assume that "White people" didn't/don't have any concerns about that particular skin color referent.

But I think that-all things considered-if I had a say so [which I don't have any, I'd probably vote against teaching that song to kids nowadays because I believe that Native Americans and Asians considere "red and yellow" skin color references to be inappropriate or politically incorrect.

**

Besides the African American spiritual, "He's Got The Whole World In His Hands", the only other children's "Bible School song" [?] that I remember-that indirectly anyway- talked about race relations, is this dour line song:

The ink is black,
The page is white.
Together we learn to read & write,
To read and write.

-snip-

Maybe this song didn't/doesn't have anything at all to do with races working together. But that's how I interpreted it as a child-and as and as an adult. I only have a vague memory of this song. It might not have even been a church song.

Here's another song I remember learning as a child in either {summer} Vacation Bible school, or church {Atlantic Cit, New Jersey, 1950s:

Jesus loves the little children,
All the children of the world.
Red and yellow, black and white
They are precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children
of the world.

-snip-

Note: this was sung at a time when Black Americans called outselves Negores or Colored people. It was also sung at a time when it was okay to refer to Native Americans as "red" people, and Asian people as "yellow" people. I think that on the conscious level, we repeated the words by rote memory, and it didn't register that we were calling ourselves "black". In the real world, we would have rejected that descriptor. To be called "blackie" was a real insult then {and unfortunately is still considered to be an insult today among African American children who are growing up at a time when "Black" is the accepted informal referent for African American people and other people of African descent}. But on another level, it was nice to know that skin color wasn't/isn't relevant to Jesus since all the little children "are precious in His sight". And maybe this song helped me {and other folks} develop & reinforce a positive sense of group esteem which I believe is an integral part of a positive self-concept.

I'm curious to know if other folks learned "Jesus Loves The Little Children" in their childhood. It would also be interesting to hear how any Native Americans or Asians {who might have learned that song or heard that song} felt about being referred to as "red" or "yellow". Since that "white" referent is still used, I assume that "White people" didn't/don't have any concerns about that particular skin color referent.

But I think that-all things considered-I'd probably vote against teaching that song to kids nowadays because I believe that Native Americans and Asians consider "red and yellow" skin color references to be inappropriate or politically incorrect.

**

Besides the African American spiritual, "He's Got The Whole World In His Hands", the only other children's "Bible School song" [?] that I remember-that indirectly anyway- talked about race relations, is this dour line song:

The ink is black,
The page is white.
Together we learn to read & write,
To read and write.

-snip-

Maybe this song didn't/doesn't have anything at all to do with races working together. But that's how I interpreted it as a child-and as and I can still see that meaning as an adult. I only have a vague memory of this song. It might not have even been a church song. But that song clip was/is very meaningful-in a positive sense-to me.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 02:28 AM

Negores=Negroes

[All the other typos will have to fend for themselves].

:o}


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Megan L
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 03:51 AM

Kent you opened the floodgates of memory I first learned Joy in my heart in the tongue of Sierra Leone from an uncle (our family never seemed to master relations beyond uncle or cousin so goodness knows how distant he was :) ) He had first went to live there in the 20s, he had a medical condition where he had a large powerful body(He had been a pick and shovel miner.) but his legswere tiny. Of the group of misionaries he went out with only two came home. He married the woman who got out with him and they went back living there for over 30 years.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Kaleea
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 08:55 PM

Azizi, I also learned that version of Jesus loves the little children. It was also sung in many "Indian" churches, too, as were many of what I think of as "Sunday School Songs." I went to small, mostly "white" churches as a child. Later as a choir director, I taught the same songs to the kids. Kids always enjoy "Praise ye the Lord/Halleluia" where they alternate standing up & sitting down.
While growing up in Oklahoma, I have known only a handful of people who actually appeared to be "red," mostly the very old elders of the tribe, (mine or another) or some young kids (mostly whites) who spent the entire summer outside with little on but cutoffs & maybe a sleeveless shirt. Funny thing is, since the Irish on my Mother's side shows in my skin, most people other than family or tribal members) don't think of me as "Indian" or "red." I have rarely heard the word "red" used amongst family or tribal members. If so, it was an elder-long ago. I sometimes hear the term used by an accasional "Indian aka Native/indigenous American" person, usually from Arizona or New Mexico or West Texas, or even Mexico or South America, when they are describing our/their peoples as the color of the earth--sometimes the color used is copper or translates as copper.
& by the way-when I was in the Far East, years ago, I never saw anyone who was "yellow." The only people I've ever seen who were actually yellow had liver disease.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 11:09 PM

Azizi,

I think my mother taught us "Jesus Loves the Little Children", but we also sang it in Bible school. "The ink is black", copyright 1956, by David Arkin and Earl Robinson, was apparently popularized by "Three Dog Night". It is indeed about the races working together, but isn't really a church song.

Kaleea,

It was probably 1980 before I heard "Praise Ye the Lord". Does anyone know how old it is?   

Hallelu, Hallelu, Hallelu, Hallelujah
Praise ye the Lord,
Hallelu, Hallelu, Hallelu, Hallelujah
Praise ye the Lord, Praise ye the Lord
Hallelujah
Praise ye the Lord, Hallelujah
Praise ye the Lord, Hallelujah
Praise ye the Lord!

Kent


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 12:35 AM

Kaleea, thanks for sharing your experiences with that "Jesus Loves The Little Children" song. That was interesting.

**

Dean, you said Watch carefully now, and I'll teach you the hand movements to go with the "Wise Man Built His House Upon The Rock" song . It was such a looong time ago that I was a child that I can't remember if we did any hand motions with this song or not.

**

I do remember a children's choir singing the Hallelu Hallelu Hallelu Hallejah Praise Ye The Lord song. But I think I was a teen when I first heard a choir sing this. I seem to recall the children standing when they started singing this but sitting down at some point when they said some part of the word Hallelu {pronounced hal lay loo}. Was it on the "lay" part of that word? I can't remember...

**

Does anyone else know this Children's Christain song?
{from my memories of Baptist church services or Vacation Bible School, Atlantic City New Jersey, 1950s}

JESUS WANTS ME FOR A SUNBEAM

Jesus wants me for a sun beam
to shine for Him each day.
In every way try to please Him
at home, at school, at play.

A sun beam
A sun beam
Jesus wants me for a sunbeam
A sunbeam
A sunbeam
I'll be a sunbeam for Him.

-snip-

Now that I think of it, for years the "tiny tot" choir was called "The Sunbeams", probably after this choir.

I have no idea who wrote this song. It had a moderate tempo. The choir sung this and other songs to the accompaniment of the pianist. {In those days in our Baptist church we didn't have any musical accompaniment [instruments] but a piano and an organ-and on a rare occassion, someone playing a tamborine. Nowadays, that same church has a drummer, and somtimes a guitarist in addition to the piano and organ.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 12:40 AM

Also, does anyone else know this song:

FATHER WE THANK THEE

Can a little child like me
thank the Father fittingly?
Yes, oh yes be good and true,
faithful, kind, in all you do.
Love the Lord and do your part,
Learn to say with all your heart-

Father we thank Thee,
Father we thank Thee,
Father in heaven,
we thank Thee.

-snip-

{I'm curious who wrote this moderate tempo song, and when.}


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: SharonA
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 04:58 AM

For some reason, I remember a version of the "Jesus Loves the Little Children" that went:

...Red and yellow, black and white,
They are equal in His sight...

but I don't remember whether I learned it in Bible school as a small child, or whether the Civil Rights movement overlaid that on my memory.


As a preschooler, I was taken to meetings of something called Good News Club in a church member's home, and the club's theme song was:

Good news, good news: Christ died for me.
Good news, good news; if I believe
Good news, good news: I'll live eternally
That's wonderful, EXTRA!! good news.

(We were encouraged to shout "EXTRA!!" as loudly as possible. To us kids, that was the really good news.)


As for "I've Got the Joy, Joy, Joy, Joy" song, we always said "Where?" at the end of the "down in my heart" line. I recall singing about having "the marvelous [something] that mystifies the Moslem way down in the depths of my heart". This was before it was un-PC to say "Moslem" instead of "Muslim". Nowadays the whole verse is so un-PC that I can't find it on Google. Then there's the verse that goes "And if the Devil doesn't like it, he can sit on a tack (Ouch!)".


Other songs I recall...

Zacchaeus was a wee little man, and a wee little man was he.
He climbed up in a sycamore tree Lord Jesus for to see.
And as Lord Jesus passed that way He looked up in the tree,
And He said, "Zacchaeus, come down,
For I'm going to your house today;
For I'm going to your house today."


Deep and wide, deep and wide,
There's a fountain flowing deep and wide.
Deep and wide, deep and wide,
There's a fountain flowing deep and wide.


This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine
This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.
Hide it under a bushel. No! I'm gonna let it shine! etc.
Don't let Satan blow it out; I'm gonna let it shine! etc.
   (or make "whoosh" noise in place of the word "blow")
Let it shine on [your town's name here]; I'm gonna let it shine! etc.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: SharonA
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 05:07 AM

Just had another flashback: the local church's 1960ish version of "The B-I-B-L-E" had a very un-Biblical part to it (which, again, I can't find on Google):

The B-I-B-L-E
Yes, that's the book for me
It saved my soul and it made me whole
The B-I-B-L-E. Bible!

The first time I heard the "I stand alone on the Word of God" version, I was a young adult. Somewhere along the line, someone realized that the Book wasn't doing the saving.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: cetmst
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 06:33 AM

Jesus loves me, this I know,
For the Bible tells me so.
Little ones to him belong;
We are weak but He is strong.

Yes, Jesus loves me,
Yes, Jesus loves me,
Yes, Jesus loves me,
The Bible tells me so.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 12:01 PM

To the tune of "The Old Gray Mare", with motions

I may never march in the infantry (march in place)
Ride in the calvary,               (hold "reins", bounce as if riding)
Shoot the artillery,               (shoot imaginary rifle)
I may never fly o'er the enemy    (hold out arms as airplane wings)
but I'm in the Lord's army       (point to self on "I" & up   
                                           on "Lord's")
I'm in the Lord's army, YES SIR!   (same motions, "yes sir" LOUD)
I'm in the Lord's army, YES SIR!   (ditto)

REPEAT FIRST VERSE WITH SAME MOTIONS

In the "Old Gray Mare" Lyric Request thread in 2005, Franz S. mentioned singing this "57 years ago". Can anyone take it back before 1948?

Kent


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Joybell
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 06:22 PM

I made up my very first parody - when I was five - based on "Jesus Loves the Little Children." I've never told anyone. I was a solitary child. I sang it for myself. I wanted all the primary colours to be represented.

Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Red and yellow blue and green
They are precious to be seen
Jesus loves the little children of the world.

Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: frogprince
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 06:37 PM

I haven't been able to get this into the Sunday school canon yet. Nothing in my "mudcat experience" has done my heart more good than when Kaleea told me she would be teaching it to her little niece.
                                  Dean


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Janie
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 07:49 PM

In addition to many of the above songs, we also sang "Ezekiel Saw A Wheel." (I'm thinking there were other rounds we were taught. If they come to mind I'll post them.), "This Little Light of Mine", and of course, "Yes, Jesus Loves Me."

We also sang and were taught "Jesus Loves the Little Children." The message was very clear and simple. Jesus valued all people the same, regardless of race or culture, and we should do our best to follow His example. In the 1950's, when the overt teaching of racism was acceptable throughout the dominant, white, culture, it was a good, proper, and fairly rare thing for a child to receive at least one clear message that racism was wrong. It is still a good idea to teach that. Perhaps the language is dated. But the message is not, and it seems to me that it would be a shame for the song to be deemed inappropriate because of what grown-ups choose to read into it. Young children, unless or until someone teaches them differently, understand the terms simply represent different hues of skin color that are characteristic of the several races of the human species. They are quite capable of seeing that nobody has skin that is actually white, black, red or yellow. And let's face it, inserting the 'correct names' to the races and cultures to replace the use of skin color doesn't scan very well.

Or perhaps it is a song that is still useful and valuable to teach to white kids, but, because of the connotations the use of the terms white, black, yellow or red may have within Asian, African American and/or Native American cultural communities (based on the historical experience of being on the receiving end of racism), does not offer the same message of universal value of all humans in at least some communitites and congregations, so it would have no useful purpose.    I don't know. I just wonder.

I'm causing some thread drift here so I will stop. Azizi, I'll pm you.

Janie


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Mo the caller
Date: 26 Aug 07 - 08:18 AM

I remeber most of those songs. In England they were all in a book of "choruses" published by CSSM (which held bible clubs on the beach at seaside resorts).
Most of them were the choruses from older hymns, Sankey & Moody etc. but sung alone.
I think our version was
"Jesus died for all the children"
and we sometimes fitted an extra word in
"Red, brown, yellow; black and white"

The joy song at the top of the thread was usually sung with a loud spoken "WHERE?" after the first "down in my heart"

We also sang
"Joy, joy, my heart is full of joy"
rpt
Since the Lord saved me
I'm as happy as can be
(was there another line?)

2nd verse had
since the Lord lives in me.
Can't remember if there was more


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Mo the caller
Date: 26 Aug 07 - 08:25 AM

No I've got 2 songs mixed up there.
It was
Running over, running over, my cup's full and running over (rolling hands round each other)
Since the Lord saved me I'm as happy as can be
My cup's full and running over.

Telling others, telling others, my lifes work is telling others (stretching hands apart)
Since the Lord lives in me.....etc

So how did Joy, joy finish?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 07 - 11:14 AM

I want to clarify that back in the 1950s when the African American children's choir I belonged to sung the "red and yellow, black, and white" line to "Jesus Loves The Little Children" we didn't think anything was wrong with any of those color references for races when they were used the song. But way back then {and as I indicated in my previous post} sometimes nowadays, children didn't want anyone calling them "black" or "blackie".

As an adult, I'm concerned about the "red" and "yellow" references for racial groups {and not the "white" and "black" color references}.
And, yes, I know that there are really no white, or black, or red or yellow colored people in the world.

As merely a suggestion, as a means of conveying the message that Jesus loves everyone no matter what their race or color, how about changing the words of song to:

Jesus loves the little children,
All the children in the world.
Jesus loves each boy and girl
in every nation in the world.
Jesus loves the little children in the world.

-snip-

Maybe that version repeats the word "world" too much. But that's one purposeful folk process solution to what may not be perceived as a problem to other folks...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Azizi
Date: 26 Aug 07 - 11:19 AM

And though this thread is for Bible School songs we remember from our childhood, I want to take this opportunity to share a contemporary religious,open-ended zip song that I think works very well with children, youth, and adults.

THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD IS HERE

Byron Cage
[2003]

The presence of the Lord is here,
The presence of the Lord is here,
I feel it in the atmosphere,
The presence of the Lord is here,
The presence of the Lord is here.
The spirit of the Lord is here,
The spirit of the Lord is here,
I feel it in the atmosphere,
The spirit of the Lord is here,
The spirit of the Lord is here.

The power of the Lord is here,
The power of the Lord is here,
I feel it in the atmosphere,
The power of the Lord is here,
The power of the Lord is here.

Everybody blow the trumpet,
And sound the alarm,
Because the Lord is in the temple,
Let everybody bow,
Let all the people praise Him now,
The Lord is here!

A blessing from the Lord is here,
A blessing from the Lord is here,
I feel it in the atmosphere,
A blessing from the Lord is here,
A blessing from the Lord is here.

Everybody blow the trumpet,
And sound the alarm,
Because the Lord is in the temple,
Let everybody bow,
Let all the people praise Him now,
The Lord is here!

I can feel the presence of the Lord,
And I'm gonna get my blessing right now.

The presence of the Lord is here!
http://www.nligc.org/songs/presence.html

**

Here's the YouTube clip for that song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QyVPKbZzww


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Mo the caller
Date: 26 Aug 07 - 04:09 PM

Finally remembered it, while washing up

Joy, joy, my heart is full of joy x2
My Saviour dear is always near
Thats the reason why my heart is full of joy

Sung as a round


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 26 Aug 07 - 09:39 PM

My darling wife, as a child, attended a "Pentecostal" church in Southwestern Virginia. Sometime around 1970, she learned this song:

There was a man named Naaman,
There was a man named Naaman,
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he was made whole.

He was a leper,
He was a leper,
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he dipped, (dipping motion)
and he was made whole.

The song is based on II Kings 5, in which a Jewish slave girl tells Naaman, her leprous Syrian master, that the prophet Elisha could cure him. Elisha tells Naaman he will be cured if he dips 7 times in the Jordan River. At first Naaman refuses, having expected a more spectacular means of cure. He eventually obeys and is cured.
Part of the fun is getting the numbers of dips right. It is easy to lose count.

Anyone else remember this? I never heard it as a child, but have heard it many times as an adult.

Kent


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 06:04 AM

My favourite was a "Missionary" hymn sung in infants' class in 1956

Over the sea there are little brown children
mothers and fathers and babies dear
They have not heard of the little Lord Jesus
No-one has told them that God is near
Swift let the message blow over the water
Telling the children that God is here.

there were other verses which I have forgotten now.

The other one I remember was

"Stories of Jesus, tell them to me"


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Bee
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 07:19 AM

I remember many of these from Bible Vacation School (in Cape Breton) in the early sixties (though not the last two mentioned). Oddly, though I know the song, I don't recall Jesus Loves the Little Children being sung there. Which is strange, because the last Saturday of BVS was dedicated to an outdoor picnic, games, etc., to which the children from the BVS in Sydney's mostly Black community also came, since there wasn't a suitable picnic place in the city. For many of the kids in my community, this would have been the only contact they had with Black children - not due to racial prejudice, but due to our community being very small and rather poor, so that only the families of the people who first settled there lived there. Those picnics were fun.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: HouseCat
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 03:24 PM

I recall my renegade auntie teaching us this song in Bible school:

1,2,3, the devil's after me,
4,5,6, he's always throwing bricks,
7,8,9, I've left him far behind,
HALLELUIA, HALLELUIA, AMEN!!! (Big Finish)



Part of my job as a Religious Ed director is to plan Vacation Bible School every summer. We use programs that come with music to suit the theme of the year (this year was a cowboy theme) and it is invariably painful to get through but the kids love it. Someday when I have time I'm going to write my own VBS program, (maybe God Loves Folkies?) and use all the good old fun songs I recall.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:02 PM

Here's another I suppose many will remember:

If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands (clap hands)
If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands (clap hands)
If you're happy and you know it, and you really want to show it,
If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands (clap hands)

If you're happy and you know it, stomp your feet   (stomp feet)
If you're happy and you know it, stomp your feet (stomp feet)
If you're happy and you know it, and you really want to show it,
If you're happy and you know it, stomp your feet (stomp feet)

If you're happy and you know it, shout "amen" (shout "amen")
If you're happy and you know it, shout "amen" (shout "amen")
If you're happy and you know it, and you really want to show it,
If you're happy and you know it, shout "amen" (shout "amen")

Kent


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: Mo the caller
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 10:16 AM

Didn't meet that one till long after Sunday school days, when my first child was at Playgroup in the early '70s.

We also had a 'nod your head' verse. Instead of 'Amen' we shout 'We are'. I often used this as the final song of a Playgroup session, but had to add an extra verse 'wave goodbye' after complaints that I was dismissing them in yelling mood. Now I use it as a dance at Family Barn dances, if the age mix is right

"You all go to the middle, clap your hands x2
You walk around the ring, and evrybody sing
If...

stamp your feet

touch the floor

stretch up high

You tiptoe to the middle, nod your head

shout hooray


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bible School songs
From: John Hardly
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 11:20 AM

When I was young, the Summer Bible School I attended was actually summer catechism -- we spent the morning memorizing Westminister Shorter Catechism, Book of John, several others. By the time a child went through our entire VBS, they would have memorized all of John, Romans, and Psalms if they passed all the "blue ribbon" requirements.

The pastor and his wife who ran the VBS were very creative and when they couldn't find a useful mnemonic-oriented song to borrow, they ended up writing their own songs for the tasks they thought important. Thus, some of these I've heard from other kids, but many are original to my particular VBS/Sunday School.

Every day we sang the intro to VBS -- a little four line chorus...

Come and bring your friends to Summer Bible School
Learning more of Jesus, that will be the rule
Come, come to Summer Bible School.

(as kids, we would yodel out the last "School")

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

The pastor's wife wrote the geography song to the melody of "Oh Tannenbaum". Older kids would take their turns at the big map up front, showing with a pointer the points where the lyric was referring...

Now first the line of coast we make (the mediterranean coast)
And here and next, the Marshy Lake
And then comes dear old Galillee
Directly east of Carmel, see?

The Jordan River flows through both
Into the Dead Sea on the south
Meanwhile the great sea westward lies
Outsretched as far as sunset skies.

There was a verse for the major cities. I don't remember the words.

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

We sang a variation of the Disciples song, to the tune of "Bringing In The Sheaves":


There were twelve disciples, Jesus called to help him
Simon Peter, Andrew, James, his brother John
Philip, Thomas, Matthew, James the son of Alpheus
Thadeus, Simon, Judas, and Bartholemew.

He has called us too, he has called us too
We are his disciples, I am one and you
He has called us too, he has called us too
We are his disciples, we his work must do

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

And the Books of the Bible song (to the tune of "Have you Ever Seen a Lassie?":

Let us sing the books of Moses, of Moses, of Moses,
Let us sing the books of Moses, for he wrote the law.
First, Genesis; second, Exodus; third, Leviticus; fourth, Numbers;
And the fifth is Deuteronomy, the last of them all.

Let us sing the books of history, of history, of history,
Let us sing the books of history, which tell of the Jews.
There's Joshua; and Judges; and the story of Ruth;
Then First and Second Samuel; and First and Second Kings;

Then First and Second Chronicles, which give us the records;
Then Ezra; Nehemiah; and Esther, the Queen.

Let us sing the books of poetry, of poetry, of poetry,
Let us sing the books of poetry, The songs the Jews sang.
Job the patient, Psalms of David, and the Proverbs of a wise one;
And then Ecclesiastes, and the Song of Solomon.

Let us sing the Major Prophets, Major Prophets, Major Prophets,
Let us sing the Major Prophets, there are five of them all.
Isaiah; Jeremiah, who wrote Lamentations;
Then Ezekiel; and Daniel, the last of them all.

Let us sing the Minor Prophets, Minor Prophets, Minor Prophets,
Let us sing the Minor Prophets, there are twelve of them all.
Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk,
Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi.


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 07:54 PM

We also sang the disciples song, except that the places of Matthew and Philip were reversed. I think I learned it at the United Methodist Church in Kegley, WV, around 1974. My wife has used the "Books of the Bible" song in classes that she taught, but neither she nor I ever heard it until perhaps 5 to 10 years ago.

John Hardly and anyone else who knows these songs, in about what year and in what state, county, or province did you learn them?

Kent


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Joe_F
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 09:03 PM

I had a skeptical upbringing, but when I was little I liked songs with lights in them, so my mother dredged up songs from her Methodist Sunday school. In addition to "Jesus Wants Me for a Sunbeam" & "Lead, Kindly Light," those included

Do not wait until some deed of greatness you may do.
Do not wait to spread your light afar.
To the many duties here around you now be true --
Brighten the corner where you are.

Brighten the corner where you are,
Brighten the corner where you are.
Someone far from harbor you may guide across the bar:
Brighten the corner where you are.


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: John Hardly
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 09:10 PM

For me it was Indianapolis in the 1960s.


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Mo the caller
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 12:12 PM

England, '40s & '50s


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: kendall
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:37 PM

Noah built himself an ark
There's one more river to cross
He built all from Hickory bark
There's one more river to cross
There's one more river
And that wide river is Jordan
There's one more river
There's one more river to cross.

Went to a Baptist church as a kid, but I discovered that the Mormon church was more interesting. There, we sang:

Young folks old folks everybody come
Join the "Darkies Sunday school and make yourself at home,
There's a chance to check your chewing gum and razors at the door
And you'll hear some Bible stories that you never heard before.

Along came Noah stumbling in the dark
He picked up a hammer and built himself an ark
40 days and 40 nights he sailed upon the foam
And, he kicked out a Lion just because she was a blonde.

There's more but you get the idea.


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 30 Aug 07 - 12:32 AM

I think I learned this one in the early 1980s in Princeton,WV.

Booster, booster, be a booster,
Don't be grouchy like a rooster,
Booster, booster, be a booster,
And boost our Bible school.

The tune was the same one used for "S - M - I - L - E", which has been referenced in another thread:

thread.cfm?threadid=33052#438961

Kent


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 30 Aug 07 - 11:07 PM

My older daughter contributed this one, which she learned in Reno, Ohio, probably in the late summer of 2000, but maybe a summer or two later.

Roll the gospel chariot along, (make rolling motions with hands)
[REPEAT WORDS & MOTIONS TWICE]
And we won't tag along behind. (point thumb back, over shoulder)

If the sinner's in the way, we will stop & pick him up
(pantomime reaching down & picking someone up)
[REPEAT TWICE MORE]   
And we won't tag along behind. (point thumb back, over shoulder)

If the devil's in the way, we will roll right over him
(hard, fast rolling motion with fists)
[REPEAT TWICE MORE]
And we won't tag along behind. (point thumb back, over shoulder)

This is similar to a version in THE LONG WINTER, in the chapter "Pa Goes to Volga", by Laura Ingalls Wilder, copyright 1940. There it was used as a work song by men pumping a hand car down the railroad in the Dakota Territory. The time was the winter of 1880-81. That version and other information can be found here: thread.cfm?threadid=53453#822736   

Kent


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs / Singspiration
From: Genie
Date: 31 Aug 07 - 07:50 PM

My mother used to sing "Brighten the Corner Where You Are" to me in Spanish - although she doesn't know Spanish from Swahili. *g*

It went something like:
"Brilla encelia (sp?) donde ust' e (x2)
Puedes con (something) ....
Brilla encilia (sp?) donde ust' e."

Maybe someone here knows it.

We also did a lot of songs that were in that little song booklet that I think was titled "Singspiration."   They included:

I've Got The Joy, Joy, Joy, Joy Down In My Heart
This Little Light
Jesus Wants Me For a Sunbeam
Jesus Loves The Little Children
Jesus Loves Me
Jacob's Ladder
and
Give Me Oil In My Lamp

My favorite verse of "Give Me Oil ..." is the one that goes:

"Give me umption in my gumption, let me function ..."


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 07:49 PM

Here are some cross-references, which I thought may be of interest:

"Give me Oil in my Lamp" Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=12728

"Jesus Loves Me" @displaysong.cfm?SongID=3186

"This Little Light of Mine" Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=606085

"There Were Twelve Disciples" Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=907867

"1, 2, 3, The Devil's After Me" http://www.dltk-bible.com/hallelujah_song.htm

"The B - I - B - L - E" http://www.dltk-bible.com/biblesong.html

"I'm in the Lord's Army" http://www.dltk-bible.com/in_the_lords_army.htm

"I've Got the Joy, Joy, Joy, Joy" http://www.dltk-bible.com/ive_got_the_joy.html
Kent


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Genie
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 08:14 PM

Rock-a My Soul (In The Bosom Of Abraham)

I seem to recall a Bible School song about climbing up Sunshine Mountain, or something like that, but I can't remember how it goes. (I keep getting interference from Jacob's Ladder and Jesus Wants Me For A Sunbeam.)

Wait a minute!   It goes:
"Climb, climb up Sunshine Mountain ... "
and the kiddies act out climbing (as in Jacob's Ladder) and "sunshine," etc.

But I can't remember the rest of it.


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Genie
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 08:17 PM

Wait, it's coming back to me:

Climb, climb up Sunshine Mountain, (climb with hands)
Heavenly breezes blow. (make breeze gestures with hands)
Climb, climb up Sunshine Mountain, (climbing motions)
Faces all aglow. (put fingers at corners of mouth and draw outward into a smile)

Anyone know the rest?


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 09:51 PM

Genie and others,

I found this on a Glasgow site: http://www.glesga.ukpals.com/folk/memorylanesongs.htm

The second verse is:
Turn, turn your back on sorrow,
Looking to the sky,
Climb, climb up sunshine mountain,
You and I.

Is this version you remember? If so, when and where did you learn it?

Regarding "Give me umption in my gumption", did anyone learn it as "Give me UNCTION etc."? Since the song (and the parable from which it is taken) relate to giving someone oil, I thought "unction" made at least as much sense as "umption".

I did find a version that uses "unction". It was posted from Belper, Derbyshire, in 2003 and refers to"that well known song from the late 70s".

Give me unction in my gumption, let me function
Give me unction in my gumption I pray
Give me unction in my gumption, let me function
Let me function to the break of day

Sing Hosanna, sing hosanna
Sing hosanna to the king of kings
Sing Hosanna, sing hosanna
Sing hosanna to the king

and the final verse was

Give me batteries in my torch keep me shining
Give me batteries in my torch I pray
Give me batteries in my torch keep me shining
keep me shining to the break of day

Ever ready, ever ready
Ever ready for the king of kings
Ever ready, ever ready
Ever ready for the king

Kent


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Mo the caller
Date: 03 Sep 07 - 12:16 AM

We sang Sunshine Mountain in the late 40s at Sunday school in London. It was "Turn, turn your back on DOUBTING" we sang.
I next heard it in a childrens event at a folk festival in the 80s (Mr. Sunshine, possibly) with the 'heavenly' and 'doubting' replaced by non-religious words.


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Genie
Date: 03 Sep 07 - 06:06 PM

Not long after I posted what I first recalled of "Sunshine Mountain," the rest of the lyrics we sang came bacl to me. Here's how we sang it (with obvious gestures):

Climb, climb up Sunshine Mountain,
Heav'nly breezes blow.
Climb, climb up Sunshine Mountain,
Faces all aglow.
Turn, turn from sin and doubting,*
Look to God on high.
Climb, climb up Sunshine Mountain,,
You and I.


* or "doubtin'" to make it rhyme better.


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: frogprince
Date: 03 Sep 07 - 10:35 PM

One more goofy old verse for "Oil in My Lamp":

Give me gas in my Ford, keep me rolling for the Lord,
Give me gas in my Ford, I pray
Give me gas in my Ford, keep me rolling for the Lord,
But I'd rather drive a Chevrolet.


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Subject: RE: Bible School songs
From: Kent Davis
Date: 03 Sep 07 - 10:41 PM

My mother-in-law, age 69, remembers the song "Sunshine Mountain" with the same words Genie remembered. She learned it in a Vacation Bible School in the little mountain town of Bastian, Bland County, Virginia, in the late 40s. She also knows the gestures. From her childhood, she remembered "Deep and Wide", "I've Got the Joy, Joy, Joy", "This Little Light Of Mine", and "I May Never March in the Infantry" (with the phrase "I may never fly over Germany" instead of "o'er the enemy").

Kent


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