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Subject: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 07:16 AM

Time is growing short, and I'm not packed yet.

In reverse order of happening - last first.

Official Festival Dates: September 12 – 16, 2007 (Wed thru Sun)
The official festival is when all the hired guns get there and put on their acts, and the hobby and craft people are set up to sell their stuff to pay the mortgages. A few music vendors bring their really high priced stuff – good place to look them over if you can look rich enough.

(Martin gets kinda testy if I try to touch anything, but the Ohme guys are all usually pretty much asleep. McSpadden is usually too crowded to get close to unless you flash a wad of money over the heads of the people in front of you – then they're pretty friendly about letting you do tryouts. Mel Bay usually has a large booth, sometimes with stuff that's not easily found elsewhere – including on their website.)

Landrush September 6, 2007 (approximately 07:00)
All campers must exit the campground and re-enter in lineup order as part of, or after, landrush to try to get their favored campsites and electrical and water hookups as needed. When you get to camp after landrush, you're "at the festival" even though it doesn't start for about a week.

Lineup 07:00 September 1, 2007
The WVA takes over the fairground and you're "allowed" to line up for the big Landrush. No permanent setup – it's just to get in line and wait, but the pickin' sort of gets started pretty regularly then.

Pre-Lineup: 07:00 am 23 August 2007
Unofficially, you can camp in the RV park for 14 consecutive days, if the grounds haven't been reserved by someone. At least one group that meets there has been "uncooperative in the extreme" and due to their likely presence, and the need to clean up flood effects, the fairground crew has very specifically requested NO EARLY ARRIVALS.

The county has stated, a little more specifically than in previous years, that no one who enters prior to 07:00 am, Thursday, 23 August 2007 will be "in line," but in a rare departure they have said (maybe inadvertently) that "order of entry after that time" will be tracked for purposes of the eventual lineup to get into the lineup to get in line.

See more to follow.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 07:25 AM

For reference:

Winfield (35th Annual) 2006 WVA Festival (first 50 posts, of 75)
Winfield (WVA) 2005
Winfield (WVA) Festival 2004

The Official website: Walnut Valley Vestival 2004
The "unofficial" site where all the good stuff is: Don Shorock's Unofficial WVA – Pickers' Paradise
Far too many pictures from past years on Lin's site at http://waterhole.smugmug.com/. (Several other camps have websites – see the WVA and/or Pickers' Paradise for links.)
See Following
John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 07:31 AM

Of perhaps special interest this year:

Because of flooding at the facility in early June, the fairground crew has requested that people avoid arriving before 23 August.

Don Shorock has posted some pictures from just before the river crested, for the curious. There's a link right at the top of the Pickers' Paradise page for the curious, or go direct to:
Rainy June Weather…

Click the 2007 link for this year, (be sure to scroll down to the pictures) or –

compare the 2005 flood when it was about the same (step through the 3 days of pictures).

Although Don "misdated" some of this year's pictures, making it a little ambiguous, my reading of the times given (corrected) versus the hydrological data from the National Weather Service indicates the water may have risen additionally as much as about 4 feet after the pictures were taken.

The county fair at the same fairgrounds should be starting about now. We drove through the pecan grove to take a look around last week, and although some of it is still a bit damp it should be in good enough shape by the time we all get there.

Brag about it here, if you can make it. Whine if you can't.

Let people know who to look for or make plans to meet.

Stop by if you get there. Ask anybody in the Pecan grove where "Thumper" is – we're pretty notorious.
(If I live through the hassle of getting everything loaded, and we actually get there.)

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 06:03 AM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 10:45 PM

John -
We've been on the phone with the relatives in Winfield and they say no big water problems with the county fair.

We haven't started packing yet, but Michelle's been making a list. I'm on the hook to cook for the Downtown Association again so we need to be there by Wednesday. I'm thinking we drive up on Saturday the 8th and just hang out until the festival starts.
- Phil
Winfield 2006


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:26 AM

Phil -

I think I've mentioned that you guys with good cameras make me sick. You probably didn't even have to photoshop all of your pictures like I do. (grin here).

On our drive-through last week, the river was a little lower than in your couple of shots in the top row. That little mud spot just behind where our camper has been the last couple of years had 3 - 5 inches of standing water still in it, but it will have about a month to dry up some. There are no big rains in the long term forecasts that I've seen. There were several campers in the Pecan Grove getting set up for the fair, so it was already "usable" at least.

The NOAA River Report has been showing the river actually lower than in recent past years, although they've "bumped it up" a couple of times since the early June flood. That was probably to bring down the upstream impoundments to give them some reserve space in case of later rain.

I'm expecting to go down early on 23AUG for the pre-lineup, and will probably stay in the camper and use the time to put everything together that fell apart last year. If we work it like past years, Lin will get there about 31AUG to be there for the "official" Lineup on 01SEP. She'll probably be there most of the time after that.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 11:51 PM

Well crud, all this time I thought the photographer had something to do with it. Now I come to find out it was the camera all along.

Glad to hear that it's drying out. The Winfield kin missed their annual Texas visit because they had to stay home to keep the basement pumped out. Michelle's cousin scouts cotton for a living since retiring from the airplane factory. He says the cotton and winter wheat were all but wiped out by the rain.

No worries, though. We'll show up fully equiped for all four seasons and for sunshine or storms, as Lin once advised us to do, and probably use everything we brought with us during the week.

- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 09:14 PM

Phil,

Good photos all!! They take me back to the 12 years I was on the bill at the festival.

Thanks for those!

Again, I wish I could be there.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 11:52 PM

Planning to attend again this year, and am storing up sleep hours to compensate for attending those 3 am Stage 6 concerts.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 08:02 AM

Art--We wish you could be there, too! We'll be thinking of you.
Uncle Phil--The temp today in Kansas is 100+ degrees. You might think on packing more summer than winter this year! Unless, of course, it rains... Your pictures are gorgeous, and the camera only takes what the photographer points at, so you must have something to do with it, yes?
LEJ--Where will you be camped, do you know yet? We'd love to meet you! If you see a little red scooter with a dulcimer case in the back tootling around the Walnut Grove, yell at me will ya? And if you make it by the Pecan Grove, keep an eye out for Thumper and the big ol' washtub bass. The coffee pot is always on, so come on by any time. Even 3 AM most nights! :>)

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 09:36 AM

Dang...one more year and Mr has no vacation left. U. Phil, I'm curious to know who your rels are. Finn's Electric, who has had the contract for the festival for years, are Mr's aunt and uncle. His mom will work somewhere for them, and Aunt Paulette works for the festival office all year round.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 03:45 PM

Sorcha, you'll have to plan vacation time better next year, darn it. Sorry you can't make it--they had 40-some fiddlers at the Fiddle Fest canopy in the Walnut Grove last year; made a CD, too, and sounded pretty good, but you know they can always use another good musician. Are you close enough to make it for the weekend at least?

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 04:51 PM

No, Lin, sorry. It's almost 800 miles. I'm still in Wyoming.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 10:33 PM

Sorcha -
PM about W'field kin is on the way.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 11:01 PM

I can vouch for the quality and availability of Thumper coffee -- highly recommended.

Art, I had noticed some of the pictures at Art's Place were from Winfield. What years did you perform there?
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 11:54 PM

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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 11 Aug 07 - 12:48 PM

Thanks, Uncle Phil--

Looking forward to seeing you there!

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 02:09 AM

Why you're welcome, Lin. And thanks for all the coffee. See you in a couple weeks.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 02:48 AM

Uncle Phil -

Since Art's asleep or just tryin' to 'member how long it's been:

It's almost impossible to get to using any rational method of browsing the WVA website, but a Google "search only at" finds:

Art Thieme

If you can get to that point, there are links to the lists of performers who appeared on the same bill (with smaller names on the ad posters of course - the way I remember it, at least) in the years that Art was there. Most of the names in those lists are linked back to a list of what years each of them appeared, making it possible that someone might stumble onto lots of lists of names but not too much else.

The "WVA Archives" show Art performing there 11 years; in every year 1978 thru 1986, and then again in 1990 and 1994. There's been a friendly ghost that walks around impersonating him in other years, according to some of us who will swear to hearing his jokes late at night, but those years are the "official" history, I guess.

[The WVA website is really tough to navigate in, since it's all one page with bookmarks rather than pages with distinct URLs; and the bookmarks (local links) are tough to dig out.]

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 05:02 PM

John,
Thanks for finding that! I knew it was at the site-somewhere---but I couldn't locate it. One of those years I played was the year Winfield had 2 festivals---one in Spring and one in September. I don't think the idea worked real well and Bob Redford and Art Coats just let it go.

Art


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 05:30 PM

Might that have been the June Jamboree? I have a belt buckle from that one. At least some if it, I think, was held on the Southwestern College Campus.....???


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 08:32 PM

Refresh.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: coldjam
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 11:10 PM

Hoping to be there in 2008-even if I have to pay to get in! :)


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 04:40 PM

It's worth it, coldjam, especially if you camp out for the duration.

Refresh.

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: wlisk
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 04:58 PM

It looks like we are going out on the 1st.
Bill & Deanna


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 11:44 AM

Good news, Bill! See you there and then! Have a safe trip.

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Aug 07 - 11:58 AM

$#%@%!*!

Four days left to pack things up, and I haven't even figured out how to make the replacements for half the stuff we broke last year - much less how to get it all in the truck.

That's assuming I'm still planning to get in the line for the line on Thursday morning.

I can remember when I could zip right through getting all set up in less than 3 months; but that was before we needed scooters and bicycles to get around, resuscitators and pumps to keep the bods functioning, and big reefers to keep the meds cool. I may have to leave the table saw at home this year to get all the life support equipment in.

The space formerly reserved in the truck for my beer has already been packed with our pills and potions for a couple of weeks. Did someone say "feeling oldish?"

See y'all there(?)

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 19 Aug 07 - 10:40 PM

Our tickets arrived in the mail yesterday and Michelle is contemplating a "dry run" of packing the car next weekend. Our goal this year is to lighten the load so we can leave the van at home. We'll see how that works out. We'll be headed up there in about 3 weeks.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 06:25 AM

So far the weather looks good. We had a little over a week of 3-digit temp days, but it's cooled off a bit for the last three or 4 days (low to mid 90s F range). Light showers Fri, and forecast for scattered showers Sat & Sun, but I don't think we got any of it. Scattered/intermittent wind gusts to about 30-35 mph, but that's normal here.

I'm down to loading a couple of bigger items - bicycle, step ladder, and cart for the potty system - but still have lots of "handfull" items to tuck in. I found one low tire on the camper when I hauled it out of the back yard, so I'll have to check it tomorrow and make sure it's holding the refill. If not I may have to drag the rig down to the tire shop to see about a fix, but that's a fairly minor thing if I get finished with the "last-minute items" loading in time.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: wlisk
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 10:09 AM

Hey John, do you know how and where they will lineup this year. Last year the line up was in the ball field area but in other years the walnut grove for pre line and then the pecan grove for the "actual" lineup. Last year they changed the format due to the wet grounds. Any idea of the plans this year.
Oh and we're downsizing this year to a Casita trailer - small but cozy!
Thanks
Bill


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 01:19 PM

Bill -

The simple answer is that if you're there before Sept 6 (Landrush) you'll park on the ball fields or on the paved roads around the grandstand. ...Unless someone changes their mind.

If you've been there, you probably know that nothing is ever certain or consistent; but:

The pre-lineup has been pretty much out on the ball fields for the past couple of years. Back in the olden days they used to just let early-earlies camp in the regular RV park (walnut grove) and "pre-lineup" was only by custom among the early-earlies (and was frequently violated, mostly by local Winnies). Three or 4 years ago the river came up and they decided to move everybody and several were already stuck. (And they found out the county didn't own anything big enough to help move some of the 5th wheelers that were already stuck.)

Last year they had leased the fairground to a group that decided they didn't want to let anyone use the RV area until they'd finished their cleanup; but since they weren't sure they could legally keep people out they demanded $100 per day from anyone who tried to park there. (Only about two people paid it.)

Also in previous years, they nearly always made early-earlies move to lines in the Pecan Grove for lineup; and of course everyone has to move for Landrush.

For the past two years, once you parked you stayed there, and when Landrush came you ran from wherever you landed first. Two years ago there was some problem with people who got into areas where they shouldn't have been, and a few had to move to different lineup positions. Last year, according to unofficial reports and so far as I know, the Mayor of Winfield(?), who "pulled rank" to get into the Walnut Grove early, was about the only one they had to move.

The only "released and official" information is that the only entry open on August 23 (this Thursday) for early arrivals will be the "14th Avenue" entrance, and on/after that date lineup numbers will be given when you enter.

The assumption would be that once the early-earlies are numbered and settled, they'll resume letting people in at the front gate.

Since those who go early will virtually all be there because of competition for the Walnut Grove and Pecan Grove areas, they'll likely try to leave them both completely empty until Land Rush.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 03:45 PM

All this foo foo raw about line up, pre line up....hey, just GO.
And I gotta love it that the Mayor was moved out! LOL!

I remember waaaay back when, the Festival was quite frowned upon. All those hippies and dope smokers moving into OUR town for a WEEK or more! Our children will be corupted and our lives destroyed!

LOL! All true attitudes, I assure you. I lived on W. 14th just a couple blocks east of the RR crossing/dike, and the cloud of weed smoke was enough to get us high just sitting on the front porch.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 04:49 PM

Lordy, lordy! Having attended the 1st 10 festivals ,including the "Spring Thing", and gone back for something like #s 13 & 15, I can barely imagine this state of affairs.

It sure is a lot of work to have fun!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 07:19 PM

The early lineups are only needed because there are a lot more people than space to put them in, if the people have particular preferences about where and how they camp.

When I first started going, the "civilized" people all wanted to camp in the RV park - now by tradition called the "Walnut Grove." It's adjacent to the fairgrounds and stadium, has electricity and water for those with "campers" and/or who need those amenities, but can only hold about 800(?) "camps." If you want to get space, and/or one of the 700 or so "hookups" there, you've got to get in line to be among the first few hundred to get in. You might find a space, but not be near a hookup, but more likely you'll find a hookup with no place to park where you can access it.

The "Pecan Grove" where we camp and have camped since 1985 has only about 80 electrical hookups, and three or 4 water taps. If you want a space in a particular area, and especially if you need electricity and water, you almost have to get within the limited space "in the oval" formed by the park's main roads. There are about 30 electrical outlets "outside the oval," but only along a short stretch of the oval road. Those usaually are taken by early arrivals within the oval who run their power cords back in across the road. There is NO WATER within at least 100 yards for anyone "outside" the oval in the Pecan Grove. Two thirds of the land area referred to as "Pecan Grove" or "South Camp" is outside the oval.

It's only been three or four years that they've allowed camping on the "ballparks" - referred to now as the "East Camp." This area is nice and flat, at a higher elevation so it's reliably dry, but no campfires or other "open flames" are allowed (even for cooking), there are fewer than a dozen electrical hookups near the grandstand, and again, NO WATER, and ABSOLUTELY NO NATURAL SHADE.

If one just wants to "be there," and can get by without electricity and water, there is no real problem finding a place to park it all until the very last day or two before the official start of the festival (a week after landrush). If you need more water than you can, or are willing to, lug by hand to your camp, you need to be there within the first day or two after landrush.

If you need an electrical hookup, as we do to run all our medical devices, you'll have to be among the first fifty or so into the Pecan Grove at landrush, and that means you'll need to be in line at least within the first 4 or 5 days that anyone is admitted to wait in line.

It gets even more complicated if you're part of a larger group that likes to "camp together;" and several traditional "Camps" have over a hundred regulars attending every year. A couple of them run over 300 people, and there are no "space reservations" to be made to keep them all assembled. It's be there, or go camp somewhere else.

A few people do rent a motel, or camp at the nearest lake, but to get a motel room reservations must be made more than two years in advance** and it's about the same at the accessible parks within any reasonable distance. The nearest commercial RV park is about 50 miles from the festival, and is usually booked nearly a year ahead.

** A few years ago, we were unable to book a space to board the dog for the week when we called 11 months in advance. They've found a few more places that theoretically can keep your pets for you, but we haven't needed to check what the lead time is - or whether they're places we'd have been willing to leave our pet with.

If you're alone, with a tent or small camper, or even with a group of a dozen or so who can all arrive together, there's a place to camp even if you come in at the last minute. If you need hookups - especially electric - or if your group is more than a few and people have to come in over a period of time, it will be difficult to keep them all together unless someone, preferably a major part of your group, can get there early.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 07:46 PM

Yes, John...it's just gotten so big. Almost too big in some ways. Bill, I was at the Spring Thing too! Those were the days, my friend......and the June Jamboree.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 08:08 PM

The last time I was there...1981, I think, we just drove in and set up a square tent...no luxuries, but found a space easily. ...it was a VERY windy year, with dust blowing all weekend. Rita did NOT care for the amenities...*grin*...


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 10:13 PM

I took Lin to WVA for her first time, as a detour on the way from Seattle to visit her mother in Texas. Six foot dome tent and one cooler. Unfortunately, one of our group - Resident Nurse James - showed her his Coleman popup and let slip that some of them come with -

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It's been uphill all the way since.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 01:12 PM

Only 26 days until it's all over for another year.... (sniff sob)

If I can get all the little last-minute details pulled together, I should pull out to get to Winfield and get in line sometime around 04:00 in the morning, so I'll be "out of touch" with phones and internet for about the next month, except for possible intermittent trips back home. We usually make two or three trips back for the details that were omitted, and to see if daughter inlaw is taking proper care of our children. The "kids" - Bat, Bela, Lon, and Vincent, have already started complaining about "you're going out to have fun and aren't taking us."

Local weather heads are suggesting that the side effects from hurricane Dean may "influence" the weather here and most of the really wet seasons at Winfield have been in years when there was tropical storm activity, but it's usually been the stuff in the Gulf (Texas to Florida landfall) that's had visible impact. I'm predicting "minor effect" from the current stuff; but of course I'd be heading out even if the forcast was for less than perfect weather (within reason?).

I should have the coffee pot on by sometime around 10:00 AM tomorrow, somehwere down there, so stop by if you make it in time to sit and gab.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 09:42 PM

Travel safely, John, and save some coffee for us. We're still 16 days away from leaving, but counting the days (which is how I know there are 16 of them, of course). The revised plan is to drive up on the 7th after work because Michelle wants to go the dulcimer picnic at Island Park on Saturday.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 11:36 PM

Hi Uncle Phil--

Tell Michelle I'll likely see her at the picnic--Nurse James and his wife Jean and I usually manage to get there to see what kind of workshops they're doing.

And you KNOW the coffee will be waiting for you. I don't think that old pot gets to dry out between batches the entire time we're out there... gotta have something to go with the JD, you know.

See y'all there.

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 11:59 PM

The dulcimer picnic is usually a pretty fun event. I've evaded going the past year or two due to a shortage of parking at the Park. While I've had fun when I went, I figured some who have more fun deserved the space.

Lin has said she plans to be there for the picnic, so she' may see you 'fore I do. I'll have coffee on anyhow, so do what's easiest for you guys as far as scheduling your first cuppa'.

A minor glitch - as always. Just after my previous post I went out to pick up some of the odds and ends and found the back gate - the 12 foot one the camper slides in through - unlatched and swinging in the 35 mph breeze. Apparently when I opened it to move the lawnmower to the back yard yesterday, the tension was relieved enough for the gatepost on one side to "assume a new position." Recent rains probably had something to do with it. The two gate sections overlapped by about 3 inches, so it was impossible to get them latched together again. The little plastic pipe that the builders put in for the drop-latch was also hammered out from the free swinging of the gate. About 4 hours to get some cable, make a sway/tension brace, and pull the post back upright.

Of course there had to be a problem just getting the cable. The nearest decent hardware shop only had 1/4" cable, and only had 3/32 or 3/8 inch cable clamps. "Field expedients" applied, and gate straightened up.

The only problem after I got the two gate sections so that they'd latch together, was that the drop-latch now missed the pipe that was supposed to hold it in one place relative to terra-slimy by about 3 inches, although that did make it easier to drive in a new chunk of solid iron pipe for the anchor. (I could postpone extracting the old broken chunk.) A much improved installation - as long as I remember not to mow the pipe when it gets a little grass around it.

With a 4+ hour detour from planned last minute packing up, I'm probably running a little behind schedule; but it's never been a really firm schedule. I think I'll still make it there by about 07:00 in the morning, but I'll nap a little longer after I get there 'stead of quite so often before.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 05:10 PM

LOL, John. If it's not one thing, it's 'your mother'!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 03:35 AM

LOL. My SO would not be at all happy if he didn't have four or five crises to contend with at once!

John made it to Winfield, is parked and hooked up and "in line," but reported that the wind was too gusty to put out the canopy and he was parked in full sun on the south ball field. Guesstimated a couple hundred RVs there already.

The good news is that so far the air conditioner is running all right! I've finished my last-minute proofing job and will join him in the lineup on August 31st. Looking forward to music and fun and seeing the "Winfield family" again...

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 09:16 AM

We talked to the relatives in Winfield last night. The weather sounded pretty good after some overnight showers. It was about 15F cooler there than here which sounds pretty good to me.

Sorcha, my wife's relatives say they know your husband's relatives, though not well. Linda says Chris is a cat person and used to come into the store for cat supplies. I thought they might have bought the store from your college friend, but apparently there was another owner in between. They don't know him, but say they do know his ex-wife.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 05 Sep 07 - 09:13 AM

Refresh. Seven days until the start of the Walnut Valley Festival, but just a couple days until we head up that way. It's raining hard here in North Texas this morning. Getting all of the lawn care finished before Friday may be a problem, but as someone once observed "that's what sons are for." It'll get taken care of while we are gone.

A bunch of our stuff is leaving for Winfield today, shipped as freight to the kinfolk's store for a very modest fee. It will be nice not to have to squeeze it all into the car.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 09:10 AM

Well. Looks like we are going to Winfield. Mr's grandmother died this AM (NO condolences please, she was a nasty old bitch). Service will be Tues. afternoon. Is there any way to meet up with anyone somewhere?

We won't have wristbands and I can't fiddle. (surg. incision in hand).

Island Park, maybe, or a cafe somewhere for coffee?
Not sure when we are leaving, this afternoon maybe, but I'll be able to check in from Mom's computer.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 09:17 AM

PS--I'll check in at the Greenbush store, and perhaps they can get a msg to Phil, et al.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 10:46 AM

I just PMed you some contact info.

We are already here as are John and Lin. I don't think they are online out here at the fairground, but we'll see them this afternoon and will let them know you are coming.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 10:48 AM

Let's try online pictures in near realtime.


2007 Winfield Pics

-Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:03 AM

I hope to make this event one of these years. Tell 'em they need in the lineup for '08! ;-)

I hope y'all have a great time and bring back lots of pictures!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:04 AM

ooops!

That is "tell 'em they need me in the lineup for '08!"


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:15 AM

LOL...I'll try Jed. Mr's aunt is sort of in charge of the acts, auditions, etc.....


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:31 AM

... I must admit I didn't even contact them this year until they'd finished their booking. So it's my own damn fault! But I'll be on it early next year - so please do mention my name ... couldn't hurt.

I hope the weather holds and bugs stay away and the music is just grand! I'm actually playing near home this weekend anyway - so I'm happy. But next year ....


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 12:27 PM

Jed, Apply and send promo stuff NOW! Attn Paulette Rush. Say her neice (by marriage) Mary sent you. I mean NOW! as in yesterday. They book way in advance.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 10:51 PM

I need some advice on where to camp this year. Last year we camped with some folks in the Walnut Grove, but that won't be possible this year. We probably won't arrive til Friday noon, so I realize prime real estate will be long gone.
John... Lin... any suggestions?


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 01:16 AM

John and LIn are camped in the heathen Pecan Grove beyond the reach of the internet and other forms of civilization. I'll pass the question along tomorrow.

More near-realtime pictures at http://www.geocities.com/phil_doubleu/Winfield07/Index.htm

- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 10:43 AM

Stopped by the Main Gate yesterday AM, called Phil. Left voice mail. Today is Tuesday, funeral baked meats at noon, service at 2. Will try to call Phil again this eve. We can't get on grounds, no tickets. Even Aunt Paulette won't sneak us in! :(

Keep the faith!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 02:58 PM

LEJ -
John, who is sitting right here, says it depends on how you are camping. If you are in a tent there should be plenty of places in the far edges of the Pecan Grove, down by the river. In a Winnibego or a caravan your best bet is the infield behind the main stage. Good luck.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 05:07 PM

Have a fine one; know ya will!
Art


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: GUEST,Claire
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 02:09 AM

Ok - I am all packed and ready to go and hang at Carp camp. Leaving in the morning and can't wait. Hope to meet some of you there.
Claire from Tucson


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 11:09 AM

Claire, Carp Camp was rocking very early this morning; see photos for 9/11
Winfield 2007
I talked to Dave the other day and he said you would be here too. Looking forward to seeing you again. Michelle is carrying all here stuff around the fairgrounds in her 'Round the House' tote bag from the NTIF so she should be easy to spot.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 10:42 PM

Life sucks. Funerals suck. Husbands suck. Even if ('speshly if?) they are 'hran players. I am home. Didn't get to meet up with anybody but HIS rels. Didn't even get to visit my own moms grave.

Some days I think I'm never going to Winfield with him again. For anything. Besides, it's a long damn ways from here. 12 hrs in a car.

Of course, we DID stop at Cabelas in Sidney, NE......because HE wanted to.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 12:12 AM

ah shucks, Sorch.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 12:20 AM

Ta, Ernie. I really wanted to see you guys. Not my week I guess.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: GUEST,Sharon G
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 01:04 AM

Wish I was going....

Have fun!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 10:25 AM

Just posted some sanpshots from yesterday. I'm sitting here at breakfast explaining what I'm doing to some technogeeks I just met, the hippy chick at across the table is chatting about her baby sling with a couple grey-haired ladies she just met, and were all being serenaded by a guy with an antique D-35 jamming with a harp player he just met. Life is good.
- Phil
someWinfield 2007


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: GUEST,Sharon G
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 11:16 AM

Uncle Phil: Thanks for posting the photos. Keep 'em coming.
I used your photo of me from NTIF for doing my "solo" concert this summer!
Sharon


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 05:14 PM

Sharon -
Glad you were able to put it to good use. I haven't seen Claire yet, but I know she arrived safely because Michelle talked to her and daughter earlier today.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 15 Sep 07 - 04:43 AM

Some new festival photos posted at:
Winfield 2007
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 08:07 AM

New festival photos at:

Winfield 2007


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 17 Sep 07 - 10:23 AM

New photos from 16 September. See you in Texas.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 17 Sep 07 - 06:33 PM

Uncle Phil, your pictures are GORGEOUS! It's amazing how very much goes on in the Walnut Grove, the Pecan Grove, and the grandstand area. I think we could take a thousand pictures, and no two would be of the same thing! And by the way, thanks so much for the lovely shot of me in my Rat Nose at the Rat Camp Band Scramble...watch your coffee next year--revenge is sweet!)

Hope you and Michelle made it home to Big D all right. John and I are sort of home, still coming down from all the great music, fresh air, and craziness. Guess it's the sign of a good vacation when it takes you a week to recover, eh?

LEJ, did you find a place to camp all right? If you were in a tent, we could have fit you into our camping area with no problems. Let us know a little earlier next year and we'll plan on it! Hope you made it and had as good a time as we did. Sorcha, I'm sorry we didn't manage to get together. Let's plan to try again, okay?

Phil and Michelle, as always, a pleasure chatting with you two. I hope to have our photos up on Smugmug this week. I'll post the link here as usual.

See ya at Winfield next year! Only 364 days to go...

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 17 Sep 07 - 10:10 PM

Thanks, Lin. I posted A few last snapshots - a couple of the fairgrounds this morning and some selected photos of places we stopped to pee on the way back to Texas.

I figured the clown nose picture was going to cost me, whether I used a picture of you or Michelle. Since you are at a safe distance in Kansas and she is here in Texas I elected the coward's way out. BTW there is also a picture of your right shoulder at the dulcimer workshop on the 8th.

Actually I got to see the whole picture site for the first time a few minutes ago. A few misspelled words and one partial picture but otherwise it looked pretty good. It was an interesting exercise in squeezing a lot of data through a little pipe. Beer and lack of sleep added to the challenge, but I thought it worked pretty well. The real target audience was Mom, who actually likes other people's holiday snaps. She loved it.

Anyway, we did family stuff after we talked to ya'll yesterday, left Winfield late morning and made it home this evening.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 01:03 AM

Lin is home and settled, since her truck is pretty well unloaded.

It will take about a week to get all the "stuff" out of the trailer so I can drag it down to get the propane tanks filled and then park it in the back yard.

I'm allowing about two weeks to get my truck unloaded so that I can sort out places to hide the stuff from both trucks and from the camper until it's time to start loading up again.

Once that's reasonably begun, it will be time to "winterize" the camper.

By the time I get about half of the "stuff" stowed/hidden somewhere, it usually is time to start loading up again.

The 2008 festival starts on Sept 17, which is nominally 365 days from now, but Lineup 2008 will be a week before that and "legal" camping to get in line will be 14 days before lineup. That actually leaves me only about 344 days to get there for next year ...

Time's a-wastin'.

I guess I'd better plan on getting up early in the morning.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 04:39 AM

Once again, with her customary efficiency and skill, Lin has posted far too many pictures from WVA 2007 at our camp website.

While I'm still trying to get my truck unloaded, she smiled sweetly and said something to the effect that "all the pictures are posted."

(A more accurate quote would be:

"*@#$*!, !!!, )*@$ I $@%#)()!#@ QUIT!!    $^%#$@#    $^#%@!"

but the message is the same, I suppose.)

See them all (or as many as you can stand) at http://waterhole.smugmug.com/.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 12:35 PM

Lin, my Honey and I made it, but only for Friday. She has a lot going on and we decided staying the weekend would be tough. So, stuck around for The Wilders on Friday night, then headed south to a hotel in Ponca City, then back to Tulsa. We did have fun!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 03:18 PM

LEJ:

Glad you made it, even if only for one night--the Wilders are always good.

Hope you and your lady can make it next year, and stick around longer!

Lin and John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 04:28 PM

I'm here to tell you that it SUCKS being there on festival weekend and not being allowed on the grounds!!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 27 Sep 07 - 09:52 PM

Well, try looking through Lin's photos. It's the next best thing to being on the grounds. I just finished going through them all. Number 50 of 53 the the Street Stomp gallery is perennial Stage 1 featured performers "Still on the Hill" playing on a dirt road somewhere on the grounds.

Some Winfieldians are headed down our way. The Greencards, highly recommended, will be playing the Granada in Dallas November 7 on a Wednesday evening. Thursday will be tough at work. Carpmiester Dave Firestine will teach mando at O'Flaherty's Music Retreat October 26-28. And the David Munelly Band will be at the North Texas Irish Festival in March.
- Phil
Still on the Hill play Stage 1
Still on the Hill play a dirt road on the fairgrounds


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 12:20 AM

And from Uncle Phil's last link, if you click the "X" at the top to go back to the gallery view, the picture immediately to the left of Still on the Hill shows Kathleen, one of our favorite standup bassists, and Sparky who is the unchallenged master of the musical toad. "Toadmaster" Sparky makes spoons sound like a primitive children's instrument by comparison; but celebrated "a little early" this year so we didn't get to hear as much from him as we'd have liked.

The street scene is directly in front of our usual campsite.

Lin has analysed all my pictures from this year, and claims to have found the secret method used by some others to get those fabulous pictures that don't require lots of "fixing" to make things visible like all of mine do. She thinks it may be because some people take pictures in daylight. I may have to try it, just for the novely of it (although it sounds like sort of an "amateur trick" method to me).

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 01:18 AM

Thanks, Uncle Phil--I've fixed the caption for Still on the Hill. Boy! If you got through ALL the pictures, you are a brave soul!

Sounds like you and Michelle are going to be having lots of good music to listen to at home. I'm already wearing out The Wood's Tea Company, Dave MacKenzie, Beppe Gambetta/Carlo Aonzo, and Old 78s CDs--they are all excellent. By some miscalculation, I didn't get a CD of the David Munnelly Band, although I certainly enjoyed their Wednesday concert! Hope the Old 78s come back next year, and Wood's Tea Company too (although anyone who knows me knows I'm not a BIG fan of Irish music, they are very easy to listen to).

Looking forward to next September already, and hoping John has his truck unloaded by then. :>)

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 03:28 PM

In daylight? in daylight!! Has the woman gone completely mad?!? Don't do it, man. The next thing you know she'll want you to have reflection in mirrors, cross running water, eat garlic...


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 05:44 PM

I think you're right, Unk. It's probably just not in my nature to be out and about in daylight all that much - especially at the Festival.

It's entirely possible that excessive and inappropriate exposure could be the cause of the shrivelling of body parts that my doctors try to tell me is "just old age." I'll have to try to be more careful about thinking of things that just shouldn't be done by those of my kind.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 06:34 PM

John, just go unload the truck OK? Stop worrying about shriven things.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 29 Sep 07 - 02:03 AM

Sorcha -

I'm workin' on it, fer cryin' out load.

I'm down to 3 rolls of AWG10 extension cords (250'), a couple of spools of 12Ga light stuff, and a couple of hundred feet of water hose left in the truck.

The problem is that the garage and utility sheds are both full, until I can rearrange the stuff I've already unloaded to make a place to put what's still in the truck.

(And if Lin keeps comin' up with "honey do" stuff, I may have to put some of it back in the truck so I can get to the table saw and drill press and such.)

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 01:04 PM

OK - I sent an application for 2008. At the risk of being obnoxious - an email from any of my Winfield/Mudcat friends to the festival folks suggesting they have me in the lineup next year would go a long way to help - and would be most appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 01:12 PM

... by the way, I proposed playing the event with Mason Brown, my son Jaime on Mando and Octave Mando and an upright bass player. We've work this mix a couple of times and it sounds great.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: GUEST,Uncle Phil (on someone else's computer)
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:25 PM

Why sure, easily done. As a matter of fact I just did.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 14 Jan 08 - 09:36 AM

Hi Jed,

Us too.

Lin and John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 14 Jan 08 - 09:44 AM

Woo Hoo! Thanks so much Lin and John.

I have worked really hard on booking a series of show with Mason in Feb - and now I'm working the promo for the tour. I'm looking forward to it.

We hope to see y'all in Winfield. Thanks so much for the notes to the festival. I'm sure they'll help.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 11:03 AM

... haven't heard anything from these folks yet, but I'm still hopeful.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 03:57 PM

A recent outside communication reminded us that the "schedule" showing who is to be performing doesn't usually appear until sometime around July or August, when they make the last big mailing of the "Occasional" (newsletter) to those who've registered to get it. It sometimes takes a while for the official website to be updated, even after the "mailer" lists who will be on.

We don't know if they wait until then to complete booking of the acts, or if it's just another of their "traditions" to keep everyone in suspense. A lot of the "grunt work" still is done by volunteers who may not be "authorized" to release information until those who think they're actually in charge give the right permissions.(?)

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 05:20 PM

What is the email address to use to send suggestions to Winfield?


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:17 PM

The second post of this thread has a link to the WVA website, and also to a couple of other sites that may be of interest - to get the "flavor of things" for use in preparing suggestions(?).

At the front page of WVA website, near the bottom, you'll find an email link:

hq@wvfest.com

The link is listed as "for requesting information," but we have received replies to specific questions. The organization has a somewhat "spotty" reputation regarding acceptance of suggestions about organizational/procedural things, but this is as good a place as we know of for suggestions about performers/acts.

It's a fairly small office, with few people active in the off-season, so anything that gets in the front door will likely be known to all.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:28 PM

I had a note from the Walnut Valley folks regarding a film for which I did the sound track (BLOODY DAWN) - they praised the music and the movie, said they'd had a couple of letters asking the festival to book me for '08 and they said:

" encourage your fans to contact the Festival Office and ask for you to be considered for the Festival. We really listen to people's requests and input.

The festival is successful because of people who purchase tickets and come each year. We listen when people request an entertainer!

Walnut Valley Staff"

... and it came from the hq@wvfest.com address

I feel just a little funny doing all this ... but from the email they sent me, it looks like, at least someone on the committee would like to be helpful - and they have given me specific direction to seek help. So I guess it's OK for me to encourage folks to write.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:51 PM

Jed -

Winfield is a fairly small town, with all that goes with it in "small town Kansas."

The WVA organization is a "small subculture of a small town" (with "delusions(?) of really big stuff" piled on).

Gossip and "community inside info" is essential in the whole festival setup. Having friends, and using them without mercy is one of the traditions of the festival. [And you're not even asking friends to lie, cheat, and steal, like some of the locals do for each other.]

You've got friends. We'll try to pester the festival for you.

And others may note: an email from Australia (or UK, or ...) asking them "who's this Jed Marum guy I heard you might book" is entirely within appropriate context. I gave a set of tent poles (a bit of a make-shift set) to a gang of Aussies who arrived with tent-but-no-poles down there about 16 years ago. They do know that the whole world is watching them.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 07:40 PM

Jed -

Just watch out for that Booking Agent Named Gary

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 15 Feb 08 - 01:17 AM

Gee, John, are these locals of whom you speak my kinfolk or Sorcha's? /*large grin*/

Jed, don't worry about asking your friends for a favor. It generally works better than asking your enemies for a favor.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 05:13 PM

Possibly subject to change, but for now - very recently posted:

2008 Performers

Bill Barwick
Stephen Bennett
Byron Berline Band
Roz Brown
Buddy Greene, Ron Block & Jeff Taylor
Tom Chapin with Michael Mark
Dailey & Vincent
Julie Davis
Beppe Gambetta
The Greencards
Michael Reno Harrell
Pete Huttlinger
Chris Jones & the Night Drivers
Marley's Ghost
Andy May
John McCutcheon
Adam Miller
Misty River
Mountain Heart
David Munnelly Band
The Old 78's
Barry Patton
Randy Kohrs & The Lites
Rockin' Acoustic Circus
Small Potatoes
The Kenny & Amanda Smith Band
Doug Smith
Johnny Staats & Robert Shafer
Dave Stamey
Still on the Hill
Thomas/DeLancey Trio
Linda Tilton
The Wiyos

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 06:10 PM

And I'm pretty sure the booking is all done nearly a year in advance, and NOT in Aug just before the festival. Jed, if you don't get in this year, try again and keep trying.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 07:00 PM

my....I used to sit in the campground and trade autoharp stuff with Roz Brown before he ever got NEAR being part OF the festival.

He has progressed!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 07:18 PM

I should have mentioned that if you follow the link (about three posts back) to the list of the performers each performer's name there is linked to a "diskography" - in case anyone has problems identifying who some of them are.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 07:58 PM

Most of the above list is well known and repeat artists....the new acts aren't listed yet. Don't give up hope!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Se
From: JedMarum
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 10:38 AM

I received this answer from the festival folks,

"Yes the list of 2008 performers on our website is complete. We hope everyone enjoys our entertainers for 2008.

Stay warm"


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2007 WVA Festival (36th year)12-16 Sept.
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 06:31 PM

Ah, rats!

They always ask for suggestions on turn-in cards at the Information Booth, Jed. We'll put your name in for next year. Like Sorcha says, "Keep trying." You would definitely fit right in with the other acts there, and we'd stand you a beer or two at our camp as well!

Lin


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