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GUEST,Ian cookieless 17 Jul 07 - 02:53 PM
Bill D 17 Jul 07 - 02:56 PM
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John MacKenzie 17 Jul 07 - 02:58 PM
Peace 17 Jul 07 - 03:01 PM
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Dave the Gnome 17 Jul 07 - 04:26 PM
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Subject: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: GUEST,Ian cookieless
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 02:53 PM

Today I managed to slam my right index finger in a heavy fire door. I do wish I hadn't. I've had it in ice for 5 hours. Half the nail has turned black and on the same black half there is a small hole in the nail where something on the edge of the door must has bored through the nail to the flesh. Needless to say, it hurts. I don't know how much chance there is of losing my nail but, of course, I want to prevent this happening if this is a possibility. I have now stopped packing it with ice. Does anyone, please please please, have any wisdom on what I should do, or have I done everything I can with the ice?

Yours in hope,
Ian cookieless


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 02:56 PM

hydrogen peroxide...and a doctor...in that order..


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 02:58 PM

a doctor 'may' be inconvenient, but so is an infection or loss of a nail.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 02:58 PM

Not much chance of saving the nail if it's turning black. sorry to be pessimistic but!
G


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:01 PM

Bill D's advice is excellent. I won't be boorish enough to ask if it hurt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:10 PM

What Bill said. Based on my own experience a new one will grow up and behind it and the old one will drop off easily if you leave it alone. I do think you should get a doctor to look at it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Becca72
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:15 PM

All of the above. See a doctor especially because there was a puncture. An infection would be very very nasty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:16 PM

While on a Boy Scout outing many years ago my nail was crushed by an old water pump. It turned very dark purple/black and the doctor actually drilled a hole in the nail to relieve the pressure. I had to ice it for some days until finally the nail came off. There was a very thin new nail underneath. Once the old nail fell off the new nail started growing in at regular thickness. For quite a few years afterward I noticed a difference in that nail, it was much smoother than any of the others. That is no longer true.

I was only 11 or 12 years old so your experience may be different. I know I don't heal like I used to. Good luck.

BTW, it hurt like hell.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:22 PM

OAnother reason you may wish to see a doctor and maybe get the finger x-rayed is to determine if the bone (phalange) on that finger has been crushed/broken.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:27 PM

That's true, too. I had mine smashed, just the tip, but it did break a small bone and the new nail grew in looking somewhat different in shape.

As far as pain goes, be sure to keep it elevated to reduce the blood pooling in it, also you might try an anti-inflamatory for pain and to reduce the swelling.

A doctor is still a GOOD idea.:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Jeri
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:36 PM

Keep the ice on it for a bit, otherwise, what Bill said.

The nail turns black because there is blood under it. If there's too much blood, it will push the nail off the nail bed. Ice would help reduce the bleeding and the swelling. A doctor might want to make a hole in the nail to allow the pressure from the blood to escape. I've never had that done and it sounds very painful, but everyone I've known who had it done said they were glad they did it and their finger felt much better after.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:41 PM

It did hurt when I had the hole drilled but it felt much better soon after. The build up of blood under the nail made it very painful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:52 PM

Tetanus is a real possibility. See a doctor.
M


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: SharonA
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:10 PM

Ian cookieless, you type really well for a guy with a smooshed index finger!

A puncture wound is nothing to muck about with. Go see a doctor as soon as possible, for all of the reasons listed above. While you're waiting for the doc to see you, try to immobilize the finger with a makeshift splint in case a bone is broken or some tendons are damaged.

The loss of your nail is the least of the possible complications; it'll grow back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:26 PM

Doctors? Infections? Don't be so nesh! When I were a lad we used to slam doors on our fingers for fun. Pull the nail off with a pair of pliers. Stick yer finger in a bottle of whisky for five minutes and then drink the whisky. Never did me any harm.

:D


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:27 PM

If you can't remember when you had your last tetanus shot then you're probably due for one anyway. You will probably need the finger xrayed to see if you need to splint it. My 15-year-old son is coming up on the last two weeks (of six) of wearing a plastic splint on a finger he jammed when playing a game with a hard ball. Broke a corner of the bone next to the joint and a tendon pulls it if it isn't confined in one flat out position to let the bone heal. You're in the unfortunate position of dealing with at least three different issues simultaneously and you would be wise to let a doctor take a look at it.

Good luck!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: skipy
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:39 PM

DOCTOR NOW!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 05:11 PM

Make sure you have some painkillers (e.g., Tylenol) on hand for the middle of the night ...

Losing the nail is no big deal; another grows in. In fact, contemplation of its progress may provide you many hours of innocent amusement.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 05:49 PM

Don't worry about the nail. When they grow back they are often better than ever.

But a Doc could very well save you time or tragedy.

I power stapeled my little finger 2 weeks ago. Its now fine but a bit sore when I make a fist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 05:52 PM

OK, now I HAVE to ask: Did it hurt?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: M.Ted
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 08:05 PM

If you are homeopathically inclined, take some Hypericum orally(you can get it at a heath food store or some such place) and put some arnica on the bruised and painful places, unless the skin is broken, in which case you can put calendula gel/ ointment on it--

Lots of people dismiss homeopathy as quackery, but in the fifteen or so years ago, I smashed my finger, same as you, slapped some arnica on it, took a bit of hypericum and put the ice back in the freezer.   If it was a placebo, it was a better placebo than aspirin with codeine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 08:32 PM

Maybe Jan is actually seeing a doctor now, or maybe he is starting another provocative thread.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 08:38 PM

Concerning the doctor who drilled a hole in the nail, it works.

I once was in the same situation. I was sitting at the kitchen table with ice on the finger and watching the nail turn black. Also on the table was a small (1/8 inch) drill bit I had bought previously that day. I took the drill bit between my thumb and index finger and set it over the darkest part of the nail. I turned the drill bit between my fingers and applied very gentle pressure against the nail. That way there was almost no pressure on the nail when the bit pierced through. I stopped the second blood appeared. I drained the area and then applied hydrogen peroxide and a Bandaid. I saved the nail and the pain disappeared immediately. A new drill bit is sharpest and cut with little or no pressure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 08:40 PM

Maybe Jan can't type . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Jeri
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 09:11 PM

Who's 'Jan'? If Ian is in the UK, he may very well be asleep. If he's not, the finger may just hurt too much to want to mess about on the computer, even if he does have 9 perfectly good fingers. I hope everything worked out OK.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 09:19 PM

Jan is Ian spelled with a 'J'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 09:29 PM

My big toe nail has turned black numerous times,but it is still there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: GUEST,Pamela in Ithaca
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:21 PM

I did this just a couple of months ago -
and I didn't lose the nail... but it looked like
I was wearing purple nail polish on that finger until
quite recently.

As for treatment - ice and elevation made a difference
for me. What with the puncture, I do hope you took
it to a DR, just to make sure that you keep infection off.
A friend did his fingers in a garage door around the same time
and he did crush the bones - so an xray is a good idea.
I got lucky.

And yes, it hurt like hell. Hurting that made me feel
sick to my stomach - so I sympathize and hope that all
will be better before too long.

Some comfort food and a warm bath (keeping injured diget
out of the water) wouldn't hurt. You deserve a little papmering.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:28 PM

My toenail turned black because I dropped a hammer on my toe and as you would guess...THAT HURTS!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:31 PM

Lik, uh, right away, huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:33 PM

No it took about ten seconds and then...


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:34 PM

Ten seconds to fall and you let it hit your toe? Are you CRAZY?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:38 PM

No, it took ten seconds to feel the pain


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:41 PM

Well figuring that the hammer strikes the toe and then the pain sensation is transmitted to the brain and then you react, by my calculations you are at least 746 feet tall.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:42 PM

I'm just kidding!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:49 PM

Oh . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:56 PM

That's ok I was just saying It was so hot outside everything was hurting so bad and I was tired it took a while to register.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:57 PM

What kinda hammer? (And what are you doing up this late?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 11:59 PM

A claw hammer.It's a reward.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:01 AM

For what? You been behaving extra well lately?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:02 AM

For doing chores.And yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:06 AM

Sounds cool then. Done any reading of late?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:07 AM

Yes I just got done reading a book by Gary Paulsen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:14 AM

Well, he's written about 100 books, so you had lots to choose from.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:14 AM

It was a good book!


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:17 AM

What was the title?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:17 AM

It was called,"Tucket's Travels."


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: maeve
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:17 AM

Hey, cookster and Peace. Gary called me once to say "Thank you for a letter I sent him. He's one of my favorite authors (especially The Monument.)

Ummm...Maybe we should move our thread drift off this hurt finger thread?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: cookster
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:18 AM

ooops sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! Finger slammed in door!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:18 AM

Yeah, maeve. Sorry about that.


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