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BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce

ClaireBear 18 Jun 07 - 05:06 PM
katlaughing 18 Jun 07 - 05:28 PM
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GUEST,Pat Shaw 19 Jun 07 - 10:43 PM
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Sorcha 21 Jun 07 - 08:32 AM
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Subject: BS: late, lamented Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 05:06 PM

Fellow cooks (especially Southern U.S. regional cooks), please help!

I have flown into a panic because my favorite barbecue sauce component, Woody's Cook-In Sauce, is suddenly unavailable. Web research has produced only the information that it was made in New Orleans and that it's no longer in production.

Alas! I have used this product for about 50 years, and as far as I know there is nothing else like it: It contained the smoky and spicy components of a barbecue sauce without the sweetness, and in a formula that was thick enough to stay where you put it. It made catfish heavenly, and mixing in some Woody's made other types of sauces (sweet barbecue sauces for chicken, for example, and hoisin sauce for lamb) infinitely more interesting.

So, does anyone have any information on what happened to the company, a replacement product I could order, or a recipe for anything similar?

Many thanks in advance.

Claire


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 05:28 PM

It'll take me awhile to find the thread, but it's one I started about a great guitarist who lives in CA and makes his own and I don't think it'd be sweet because he made it esp. for folks with high bp, like himself...oh drat, he's played with everyone and many 'catters didn't know about some of his career. He's an older African American. I'll see if I can find it. His stuff si guaranteed to be delicious.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 05:34 PM

Thank you, O wise and laughing Kat. I sing your praises -- and will sing them even more if you come up with a recipe for something that's anything like Woody's.

Cheers!
Claire


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 05:40 PM

LOL...well don't count the chickens just yet...I don't think this is him, but i did find this one which says "no sugar added!" (I hate sweetness in that and salad dressing, too!)

I'll keep lookin'!


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 05:47 PM

Well. that's not like Woody's, because it is sweetened, though not with sugar.

Woody's did have some sugar in the ingredients, but way down on the list. Here, by the way, is the list of its ingredients:

water, tomato paste, soybean oil, white and wine vinegars, hickory smoke, spices, salt, sugar, soy sauce, caramel color, anchovies, onions, tamarinds, flavoring, xanthan gum, potassiaum sorbate, sodium benzoate, red no. 40


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: heric
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 05:56 PM

Claire it's no substitute of course not even close but you can still find life after Woody's with Bronco Bob's Tangy Apricot Chipotle Sauce. mmm


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 04:09 PM

Well, thanks to bobad, over in my Search Glitch thread, I can point you in the right direction to Brother Bru-Bru's sauce. Not sure if it will be anything like Woody's, but it's worth a look. Bruce Langhorne was the original Tambourine Man. That's what the title of my thread said, just couldn't remember!


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 04:35 PM

Thank you, Kat. From the ingredients I'm guessing it will be quite different from Woody's--which isn't actually all that hot, just spicy--but it may help fill the void until I can perfect a knock-off recipe from the list of Woody's ingredients. (Don't you just hate ingredients lists that say "spices"?) That would, of course, be a lot easier to do if I actually still had a jar of Woody's, but alas, we finished off the last one a couple of weeks before finding out we couldn't get more. Drat!

BTW I LOVE the photo on the Bru-Bru Web site!

Does/Did anyone here else use Woody's?

(My husband tells me I've been remiss in neglecting to add the following musical content: After consuming catfish brushed with Woody's, my guitar playing was always much improved for a period of several hours. THAT's the real reason I must have a substitute!)

And if you believe that...


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,michaelr
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 08:11 PM

Claire, I'm a Woody's fan as well. Had a bit of concern when it wasn't at the local market for a few months, but then it came back.

It's a bit strong by itself, but as you say, mixed with some sweeter/hotter sauces, it's great. The ingredient list not only contains "spices" but "flavoring", too. Hmpf!

Trying to approximate it at home, the liquid hickory smoke will be key. Probably not very healthy, but hey.

I'll check the local market, and if there's any on the shelf, I'll get a jar for you.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Pat Shaw
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 10:43 PM

I found it at Ocean State Job lot. $1.00 per bottle. It is regularly 25.99 for 4 bottles. I just tried it and my friends and I went nuts over it only find it out of production.

I wonder if the company went under from Katrina? I will be trying to find the original recipe if the owner is still alive. I say this because the seafood company owner I used to buy from drowned in the storm.

Anyone else have the recipe? I also have Brother bru-Bru's very good but very different and way to hot for mst people

Pat


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: Bee
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 11:15 PM

Anchovies and tamarinds: I'll bet those two are very important flavour components


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 11:27 AM

MichaelR -- thank you! See you tonight at the Les Barker do?

I will keep you posted on my attempts to recreate it, but I'm off later today on a 10-day camping trip, so it will be a while before I can check back in.

Thanks everyone, and please keep posting any info you find.

I a PO box for the company, though whether it's still active I cannot say. Wish I had time to write a letter myself, but it will have to wait until I come back. In the mean time, it's up to you you, Pat:

Woody's Foods, Inc., PO Box 60296, New Orleans, LA 70130.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 12:54 PM

Found this on another message board:

"Woodys Cook-In Sauce - description, ingredients

"This sauce cooks in and through the meat without burning. It is a rich sauce that is ideal for cooking and marinating.

"Ingredients: .1% sodium benzoate, anchovies, carmel color, FD&C RED No. 40, flavoring, hickory smoke, onions, potassium sorbate, salt, soy sauce, soybean oil, spices, sugar, tamarinds, tomato paste, water, white and wine vinegars, xanthan gum."

Who knows what the "flouring" is, though! Good luck with it.

(I'd forgotten that Bru-Bru's was a hot sauce!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Tenkiller
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 04:14 PM

I grew up with Woody's too but have gone away from it for several years.
When I was at the grocery store last week I picked up some Mr. Stubbs BBQ sauce and after tasting it a few times realized how close it was to the flavor of Woody's (not sweet at all). I'm disappointed to hear that Woody's is out of production, I probably would have been looking for some now that Mr. Stubbs reminded me of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,big john
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 12:00 AM

I work for a distributor that distributed Woody's and I must say, the people and stores are totally p/o'd. Apparently some other big company bought out Woody's and decided not to make it anymore. I've actually got my hands on about 30 jars in the north Texas area, anybody want to make an offer?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 08:32 AM

The list of ingredients sounds an awful lot like Worchestershire sauce. It also has soy, anchovy and tamarind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 08:39 AM

What's this company? - if they have decided that it was not economic to make and sell, then it can't be worth very much ;-) and a cheap offer by a 'co-op' of interested parties who want to make it and distribute to their members, might just get the recipie.... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: Grab
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 01:07 PM

Should I be worried that I misread the title as "Woody's Cock-In Sauce"...?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Jun 07 - 03:48 PM

Yes, you should. Be VERY worried.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Yarby
Date: 23 Jun 07 - 08:32 PM

My family are all Woody's fanatics. Nothing compares and I've tried them all. I too cannot find it anywhere. If it's been taken out of production, I will be heart-broken. If anyone has a real contact to this company (or the company that bought Woody's), please post it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,gumbotex
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 11:00 AM

Woody's cook in sauce is made and distributed by:

If you have questions or comments about online orders at Luzianne.com, please email order@luzianne.com or call 1-800-692-7895.

For all other inquiries or comments:

Mail:
Luzianne.com
Reily Foods Company
640 Magazine St.
New Orleans, LA 70130

Phone: 1-800-535-1961

Fax: 1-504-539-5427

E-mail:
For general comments and inquiries about Reily Foods, please send e-mail to service@luzianne.com.

Web site:http://www.luzianne.com/talk_to_us.cfm?

I believe if all of the Woody's user's in the world would send an email to the company asking why they discontinued Woody's or asking for the recipe, we just might be able to change their minds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Pat Shaw
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 12:34 PM

Everyone send the emails. Let's at least get the recipe. The Co-op idea is a good one. Can anyone find an old employee of Woody's? I'll try to round up as much of it as I can and would be happy to share it with you guys for what it costs me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Pat Shaw
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 04:54 PM

I have a call and an email into the company asking for it to be made again or for the recipe. I'll keep you posted. You guys should also email or call.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Gumbotex
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 09:42 AM

The answer I got back: I do believe thousands of emails could change their minds or lead to someone that would purchase the brand.

From: Brenda Macaluso [brendam@rfoods.com]

June 27, 2007



Dear Mr. Hewitt:



Thank you for your message and your loyalty to the brand.



Unfortunately the decision to discontinue was made due to several different reasons – and sadly, final decision was made to discontinue.



To let you know though, we are hoping that we can sell the brand. We do not have a buyer at this time – but we hope we will be able to find one.



We thank you once again for your loyalty and are sorry we are not able to be of help to you.



Sincerely yours,

Brenda Macaluso

Consumer Affairs Manager

Reily Foods Company


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Janet
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 11:12 PM

Claire -
Maybe we can be of some help to each other here ... I bought 4 cases (yup, you read that right) of Woody's right after Hurricane Katrina - I noticed that my store was out & went on the web & bought up all I could find.

I'd be happy to send you a jar if you think the 2 of us could replicate the recipe.

Contact me.
Janet (aka ucanthaveit2@hotmail.com)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Beverly Turner
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 11:04 PM

I am sooooo disappointed that I cannot find Woody's Cook-In Sauce. I went to 7 grocery stores in Dallas and just found this blog. To bad - there is nothing like it. What am I to do about cooking my brisket for July 4th~


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Beverly
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 11:05 PM

I found Woody's Cook-in Suace but it says Sweet & Sour on the lid. Has anyone used this? I was able to find several jars in Dallas.

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Jul 07 - 11:12 PM

I'm pretty good at replicating once I've tasted stuff, but I haven't tasted this.....never seen it in Kansas, New Mexico or Wyoming.

Ingredients lists don't help....as in 'spices'. Gotta taste it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 02 Jul 07 - 04:39 PM

Back from holidays today!

Thanks to the wonderful and gallant MichaelR, I now have a small quantity of Woody's to use in trying to replicate it. This is not really my field of expertise, but I am going to try my darnedest.

Sorcha, if you are a good product replicator, it would be ever so kind of you to get together with Guest,Janet; procure a sample; and try to recreate it. You would apparently be doing a service for many of us, not just me! I'll happily help defray your expenses; PM me.

I tried the Stubb's while on vacation. It is indeed along the same lines, but not nearly as intense as Woody's. Perhaps if it were reduced to eliminate the extraneous liquid and if some Liquid Smoke were added to bring up the mesquite (or more likely hickory) factor, it would do for that July 4 emergency.

My letter to Reily Foods will go out soon...thanks to all who are contributing to this effort!


Cheers,
Claire


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST, Linda-Barling, Arkansas
Date: 04 Jul 07 - 12:00 AM

Just found your message thread here and was truly upset that Woody's is no longer made..........no wonder I haven't been able to find it recently. My family started using it in the late 50's in California and have continued using it, myself, here in Arkansas for the past 30 years . I'm sending an email to the company address given above.....hope it helps as I can't imagine what I will do without this sauce in my pantry!!

Good luck everyone,
Linda
neledeal@cox.net


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Subject: RE: Approximate Recipe for Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Ken Graber
Date: 04 Jul 07 - 08:02 PM

My Woody's Cook-in Sauce Recipe

2 Tbsp Water
3 6oz cans Tomato Paste
2 Tbsp Canola Oil (Soybean Oil)
2 Tbsp White Vinegar
2 Tbsp Red Wine Vinegar
3 Tbsp Liquid Hickory Smoke Flavor (Hickory Smoke)
1/2 tsp onion powder (Spices)
1/2 tsp garlic powder (Spices)
1/2 tsp black pepper (Spices)
1/2 tsp paprika (Spices)
1 tsp Salt
1 tsp Dark Molasses (Sugar, Carmel Color)
1 Tbsp Worcestershire Sauce (Soy Sauce, Carmel Color, Anchovies, Onions, Tamarinds, Flavoring, etc)
1/4 tsp Xanthan Gum (thickening agent)

Mix all ingredients and simmer until flavors combine and consistency is right.

This recipe is based on the order ingredients are listed, what I taste, and things found in most kitchens. Real Woody's is a little darker (more carmel color and tastes more strongly of tamarinds).


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Tejun Steve
Date: 04 Jul 07 - 11:25 PM

I just got back from searching all the stores in my area...nothing. Several months back I wrote a letter to Reily's Foods and their reply indicated that Katrina had taken them out of production, but to look for the product on the shelf in coming weeks. I did see it for awhile, but I guess the news of them stopping production, as indicated in a previous post, is true. I came across this thread only because I was searching for my missing Woody's.
I will also send an email and will continue to monitor this thread. Thanx all! Tejun (half Texan half Cajun) Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,Steve Gardner
Date: 08 Jul 07 - 09:12 PM

I just now ran across this thread. I still have a partial bottle of Woody's, but I've been looking for more for a couple of weeks, and just now learned that it's discontinued. Now I'll have to break the news to famly members all over the country who loved Woody's. Thanks for all the work that several of you have done. I'll write a message to Luzianne, and I'll try the recipe above. It's not surprising that the color is off a bit, because Woody's used some food coloring.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,BIG Woody's fan
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:13 AM

Call, mail, and email. It changed New Coke back to Classic Coke.

We NEED our WOODY's

Mail:
Luzianne.com
Reily Foods Company
640 Magazine St.
New Orleans, LA 70130

Phone: 1-800-535-1961

Fax: 1-504-539-5427

E-mail:
For general comments and inquiries about Reily Foods, please send e-mail to service@luzianne.com.

Web site:http://www.luzianne.com/talk_to_us.cfm?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,gdr112
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 08:15 PM

God Bless you all. My wife married me because of my Woody's grills. I want more anyway. I will also e-mail Reily Foods.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 12:49 PM

Woody's re-creation experiment #1 took place yesterday afternoon. I ended up with a half-gallon batch of something that's darned good, and it looks like Woody's -- but there's a an upfront flavor in the real product that I can't identify or recreate, so far. If those of you who still have a jar would you take a tiny taste, it's the obvious flavor right upfront that doesn't (to me) quite taste like food. It's a touch bitter and a bit rank -- but I mean this in a good way. What is it?

I worked on my batch immediately after watching a Paula Dean cooking show on various types of barbeque. Got some ideas I wouldn't have thought of from that, including the addition of instant coffee to my knock-off Woody's. That did help, and adding cumin helped even more...but until I can figure out what the missing flavor is, it won't be Woody's.

Does anyone want me to post the ingredients of Batch #1, or should I try to get it perfect before posting a recipe?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 04:57 PM

Buy it on eBay for a small fortune:
http://cgi.ebay.com/5-JARS-WOODYS-COOK-IN-SAUCE-BBQ-BARBECUE-GRILLING-OOP_W0QQitemZ270145450823QQihZ017QQcategoryZ14313QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,jDogg
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 06:18 PM

--- Brenda Macaluso wrote:

> Subject: RE: Please bring back Woody's Cook'in
> Sauce!!
> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:51:54 -0400
> From: "Brenda Macaluso"
> To: >
> July 16, 2007
>
>
>
> Thank you for your message and for your interest in
> our Woody's sauces.
>
>
>
> We are sorry but we have discontinued the production
> of Woody's sauces.
> Unfortunately we are unable to recommend a store
> that may still have
> some remaining inventory. We thank you for your
> support for this
> product
>
>
>
> To let you know though, we are hoping that we can
> sell the brand and are
> working on this process.
>
>
>
> We thank you once again for your loyalty and are
> sorry we are not able
> to be of help to you.
>
>
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Brenda Macaluso
>
> Consumer Affairs Manager
>
> Reily Foods Company
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:31 PM
> To: service@luzianne.com
> Subject: Please bring back Woody's Cook'in Sauce!!
>
>
>
> To whom it may concern at Reily Foods /luzianne.com,
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>
>
> There is a market for Woody's Cook'in Sauce.
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> There is a community that is crying out for it.
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> People are trying to cook it themselves:
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> http://www.recipelink.com/mf/14/27393
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> People are considering starting a co-op to produce
> and
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> distribute it if they can get the recipe.
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>
>
> Here is a blog that provides some indication of the
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> concern caused by Woody's no longer being available:
>
> http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=102609&messages=32
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> Here is a google link that shows that people are
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> looking for it and that it is included in many
>
> recipes:
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> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=woody%27s+cook%27in+sauce
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> Please bring it back or let someone else bring it
>
> back!!!
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> Thanks
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> (my bbq rib recipe depends on Woody's!)
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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,michaelr
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 03:30 PM

Clare, have you got the liquid smoke and tamarind in there? Those seem to me the predominant flavors.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:54 PM

Michael, I definitely added Liquid Smoke (two kinds, even), but adding tamarind did not occur to me as it's not on the list of ingredients. That could well be it, if tamarind has the kind of bitter, rank, not-exactly-food taste I am missing...I can't say that I know what it tastes like, except as a sweet paste in Thai dishes.

Now, where do I find tamarind outside the context of steak sauce, worcestershire sauce, and Thai restaurants? Can you get it in any form that isn't sweet? I'm sure if Woody's used tamarind jam, or whatever, they'd say so; I think it would have to be a single-ingredient product (like an extract) to be listed on the ingredients merely as a "flavoring."

Alas, when I tasted knockoff sauce #1 the next day I found I had added way too much cumin; the cumin flavor grew like magic overnight. My sauce is really good, but it's way reminiscent of chili (the dish, not the ingredient) -- so I will definitely be starting over.

Claire


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: GUEST,michaelr
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 07:45 PM

Tamarind paste is available in Asian markets - not sure whether it's usually sweetened. It's not on Woody's ingredient list, but Guest, Ken Graber mentioned it above. Worth a shot!

Good luck, and keep us posted.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 08:02 PM

Pretty sure what you are missing IS tamarind paste. I have some that open mike sent me from California. I use it in Worch. sauce. The alternate ingredient for it in Worch is lemon juice, but the paste is quite thick.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: JennyO
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 06:40 AM

I have a jar here of Jeeny's Tamarind Puree, which is a thick paste. All that is listed in the ingredients is tamarind puree (86%), water, salt. It is made in Penang, Malaysia by Jeenhuat Foodstuffs. Dunno if you can get that brand where you are.

I love the sweet and sour flavour of tamarind in food. Never had Woody's sauce though, but it sounds nice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 11:50 AM

Thank you, folks! I am off to find tamarind paste...there's a huge Asian community here, so that should not be too difficult a search. Then I need another chunk of time -- n

Tried knockoff sauce #1 on catfish last night. The texture was thicker than Woody's, so it stayed put on the fish instead of running off. This was an effect I liked, but I imagine it was only happening because of the large amount of cumin I used, which would tend to have a thickening effect. The final recipe, with less cumin, will be runnier.

Anyway, we all loved the flavor. My son even liked it better than Woody's. I'd say it's almost as good -- but different, of course. I still want my Woody's! I am fairly sure that -- less some cumin and plus some of the mystery flavor, which I hope will prove to be tamarind -- I am close.

Claire


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:16 PM

It could be which liquid smoke too - many are hickory but some are mesquite. I have even seen cedar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 01:27 PM

Mmario, I am in luck there -- the Woody's label specifies hickory smoke so I know I am using the right one. Also, this product hasn't changed since the 1950s, when I rather think hickory was the only one available. Finally, Woody's was from the south, where hickory is the preferred smoking wood; I think mesquite is more southwestern.)

Cedar, hmmm? That sounds yummy, especially for fish.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: Sorcha
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 03:09 PM

Well, I I try to make it, I'm leaving out the cumin. I can't abide that stuff in anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 03:15 PM

So - Claire - how about letting us know what youy actually put into you "almost Woody's"


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 03:18 PM

Sorcha, probably no cumin in the real recipe. I added it because it has a not-quite-food taste quality not entirely unlike what I was looking for in the mystery ingredient. Not the right taste, but an interesting experiment that got me closer to the goal.

I added it last, after I had established that I didn't have whatever ingredient it would take to get it right on the first batch.

I'll keep y'all updated. This is fun!

Sorcha, what kinds of recipes have you reverse-engineered, And what's your process? I'm impressed that you'd take on worcestershire sauce.

C


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Subject: RE: BS: Help! info on Woody's Cook-In Sauce
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 03:19 PM

MMario, not ignoring you, we just cross-posted. I'll bring my notes to work tomorrow and transpose them into this thread.


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