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BS: Poor Paris back behind bars

GUEST,mg 30 Jun 07 - 09:04 PM
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Ebbie 14 Jun 07 - 07:08 PM
Donuel 14 Jun 07 - 09:17 AM
Sorcha 13 Jun 07 - 10:24 PM
Ebbie 13 Jun 07 - 02:43 AM
Peace 13 Jun 07 - 12:07 AM
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Liz the Squeak 12 Jun 07 - 06:15 PM
clueless don 12 Jun 07 - 09:09 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 09:04 PM

I think she came up with two excellent ideas: one is a play house or something for children with handicaps and one is a halfway house for women exiting prison and having no where to stay. I think both are excellent ideas..I would recommend curing breast cancer being left to someone else...I hope she does these things and think that she will...mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 12:35 PM

Sinsull-

"Wouldn't it be wonderful..."

Why do I feel a headache coming on?

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Jun 07 - 12:04 PM

She is out and ready to save the world - breast cancer, MS, women convicts. Her "medical" problem was claustrophobia which fortunately she was able to "handle" when the judge ordered her back to prison. And despite her conviction for drunk driving and numerous photos and videos of her smoking pot, mushrooms, etc. she claims never to have used drugs.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if she really did use her millions and her fame to cure MS or breast cancer or help poor women?

Meantime, the cast of Ocean's 13 put their money where their mouth is and donated 5.5 MILLION DOLLARS for humanitarian efforts in Darfur. But I do not believe it made the front page of any newspapers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 07:08 PM

What?


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:17 AM

While the real Paris Hilton is in a secluded Pacific island resort healing from the latest implant surguries, the look alike Paris (ROH*)Hilton is in jail and will do what is expected to resuscitate the real PH's celebrity such as finding God, being respectful to the parents and generally being pleasant.



*Ringers of Hollywood Inc. is a discreet and expensive service that affords celebrities to be at two places at once. The movie Dave was a spin off of the consequences of a ringer ending up in the white house.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Jun 07 - 10:24 PM

Uh, don't you need a bit of hair there before you can get crabs?


Oooo, did I really say that? No, I take it back. I'm sorry. Perhaps she could just not sit on the can while she is there? Liquid diet?

Sorch, go back to your cave and behave.
Yes ma'm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Jun 07 - 02:43 AM

lol She probably won't be doing what you did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peace
Date: 13 Jun 07 - 12:07 AM

Thank you. I had heard her name mentioned before but really didn't know anything about her. I hope she doesn't get crabs while she's in the big house.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 10:56 PM

I'm sorry--I was a bit hasty. Everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt--except unrepentant Bush voters--there's no hope for them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peter T.
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 10:50 PM

Christopher Hitchens has it about right (www.slate.com).

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 10:20 PM

She says she wants to "make a difference". We're all from Missouri on this, but let's see what happens when she finishes her sentence. At the risk of heresy, I'd say that everybody, even young teachers who put foolish things on the Net-- and, beyond that, yes, even rich and stupid celebrities-- deserves the benefit of the doubt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 09:07 PM

She was in a couple of movies, mainly bad horror stuff, like "House of Wax" (I think--I didn't actually see it). She also had a small role in the pilot to the otherwise excellent TV series Veronica Mars. Oh, and she was in some godawful reality show where she basically acted like a dumb bimbo. She's mostly famous for being rich and acting stupid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 08:51 PM

Peace, Paris Hilton is one of the heirs to the Hilton hotel fortune. I don't know that she has made any movies- other than her infamous sex tape.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 08:27 PM

Sounds like a good plan, but until I hear otherwise, I tend to think that the only "valuable lesson" she's learned is "don't get caught."

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: saulgoldie
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 08:15 PM

I confess that a) I think this "story" has gotten far too much attention; b) I think she should do her time like a normal person would; and c) I have a bit of simpathy for her given that she seems to suffer from ADD and depression. I have a suggestion for her new campaign. Why doesn't she work on public awareness of attention defecit disorder and depression and the need to better deal with them and get them out of the closet. Between substance abuse and mental illness (which often go together), more effectively dealing with these problems could free two thirds of the prison population. So she could help the public learn a valuable lesson, as she has said that she, herself has.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 06:31 PM

OOPS. It was this thread. Oh, well . . . .

BTW, who IS Paris Hilton? I don't watch all that many movies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 06:30 PM

Dang. I posted to a thread just recently and she was in jail then. Is she back in jail? Man, she's gotta give up the sauce.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 06:15 PM

Interesting that she doesn't mind flashing her fanny (English meaning) in public but she objects to the possibility she'd be photographed on her can in the can.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: clueless don
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 09:09 AM

Since the young woman in question is sometimes featured in People magazine, the thought just flashed through my mind that someone should write a tune called "The Poor Paris of People".

Well, it gave me a grin!

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JennieG
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 07:24 AM

A wonderful letter in the local paper this morning:

Flash on the pan

Paris Hilton apparently was terrified that she might be photographed in prison astride the toilet. By whom? The pooparazzi?

I wish I'd thought of that first!

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 10:19 PM

GUEST,yerself, you do show taste. What kind, we'll leave for posterity to judge.

Well, now, Little Hawk, I don't really think all that many people are that fascinated with the Perils and Peccadilloes of Paris as some here seem to think. And I'm certainly not letting it distract me from the rest of what's going on in the world. For example, I listened to an excellent discussion on civil rights with Anthony Romero, Executive Director of the American Civil Liberties Union and author of a new book, In Defense of Our America on the radio this morning as I had breakfast.

I don't spend all day on Mudcat, as, apparently, some people indeed do—verifiable by the volume and frequency of their posts, often on only one thread (practically every other post), sometimes on several threads, bouncing from one to another. I do spend quite a bit of time on the computer, but that involves reading and answering my e-mail, checking in to see what's new on Mudcat, and sometimes posting something if I feel so inspired. But mostly, I use the computer for writing: articles, and a book I'm working on. Often that writing involves research, so I google quite a bit. Sometime during the afternoon, I usually I take a break, go outside for awhile, and get some fresh air. I practice guitar and vocal exercises every day and sing through a few songs (planning to do a concert this coming fall, and I have to keep in shape). As I check for e-mail several times a day, I may--may—check into Mudcat again.

In the meantime, I have music (usually Classic KING-FM) on the radio, and at specific times I switch to KUOW-FM (local NPR affiliate) for news.

By the way, I just checked with the Seattle Public Library to see if they had Anthony Romero's book. They do, so I placed a hold on it. I'm eighth in the queue, but the library has five copies, so it shouldn't be long.

Lest anyone assume from the length of this post, for example, that I spend a great deal of time writing posts for Mudcat, I write very quickly, and I do a lot of my writing with Dragon Naturally Speaking, a voice recognition program. I just dictate to the computer and it appears on the screen. A little editing and away she goes.

GUEST,yerself, you really shouldn't allow yerself to get this worked up. But then, love can do strange things to people.

But then. . . .

"We'll always have Paris."
            —Humpy Gocart in Casablanca

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 09:23 PM

Dear Mr Firth:


We read your post with great interest. It is truly gratifying to see a person such as yourself participating in a forum of this nature, and we look forward to reading many of your insightful contributions in the future. I am sure you will understand if we do not have time to respond to each and every one, but please be assured of our ongoing interest in your opinions.


Yours truly,
meself


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 08:28 PM

The real scandal here is not Paris Hilton's immaturity and lack of responsibility. Uh-uh. It is the news media's immaturity and lack of responsibility. It is they who are the great threat to society, not Paris Hilton. She's just the latest hapless ammunition in their machine gun.

And I don't think it's entirely accidental the way these kind of ridiculous gossip stories are used to distract the public from much more important matters.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 08:19 PM

Stupid as her behavior has been up to now (almost uniformly), she now says she wants to "make a difference". She has a high enough profile--and is probably--(God help us)-- a role model for a large number of confused girls. Therefore if she really is willing, say, to be a spokeswoman against drunk driving, she should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Simple solution--no need for us to waste any more time on this burning issue: let her serve her time in jail (probably about 23 days)-and then see if she is willing to do some good--as for instance the above suggestion. If she doesn't change, by all means feel free to pile on again.   At that point, she will richly deserve it.

Interesting that for all the comment that Paris' situation is absurdly overshadowing Iraq, immigration, etc., few of the posters on this popular thread are commenting on recent developments on those other topics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 05:47 PM

Being a "sanctimonious twit" is not a condition beyond one's control, such as height, eye-color, or ethnic background. The state of "santimonious twitness" is a characteristic one adopts as a result of the choices one makes. Suggesting to that person that he consider trying to refrain from being a "sanctimonious twit" is not calling him a name, it is a matter of advising him that, by this judicious exercise of reasonable restraint, he may be able to avoid making an utter jackass of himself.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 05:29 PM

Thanks, Jeff. I'm an idiot. :) Thanks again, JennyO and Stilly River Sage for posting what I was trying to post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: jeffp
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 04:55 PM

Jeremy, the only problem I could see is that you forgot to close the quotes both times. On this site you don't even need the quotes, if I recall correctly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: guitar
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 03:06 PM

when I first heard her name I thought that they were talking about a hotel.

Mind you that is what you get for having a stupid name

Tom Hamilton


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 01:50 PM

Thanks, you guys. I have no idea why that wouldn't post/show for me. Is there something in the forums software that wouldn't let me do what I was trying to do? Did I forget to close a tag? Gah.

Considering the stuff that's going on in this country right now, it's appalling that people pay more attention to the latest American Idol results and what Paris Hilton is doing than they do to, say, the Gonzales investigation, the current administration's (and most of the Republican candidates'!) attitudes towards torture, national security, etc., and so on. There are many, many disturbing things in the news right now that are worth getting worked up about, and Paris Hilton is not one of them.

But then, I said the same thing about the campaign to save the prime-time drama "Jericho"--people get more worked up about a television show than they seem to about real life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 01:09 PM

This is what he was trying to post:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/10/paris-lowlights/

And this quote:


    The media's latest "serial obsession" focuses on Paris Hilton's jail sentence. On Friday, MSNBC abruptly cut away from coverage of Gen. Peter Pace's replacement (with producers screaming in the background) to return to Paris Hilton. A CNN anchor proudly called the station "the most trusted name in Paris news," and during Friday's broadcast of Katie Couric's CBS Evening News, "the Paris Hilton 'news' got more coverage on CBS than a roadside bomb killing a U.S. soldier, the immigration legislation, and passage of the stem-cell bill combined - times two."


I picked this up from the source code.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JennyO
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 12:37 PM

Here it is, JeremyC.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 11:37 AM

Alright, html is getting kicked out of my posts, apparently.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/10/paris-lowlights


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 11:36 AM

For the love of god, why is this not working?

Link:

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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 11:36 AM

Hm. That didn't work. Trying again:

times two."


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 11:34 AM

I've sort of followed this story, because (as thinkprogress.org has noted) it's been all over the media to the point where it's essentially unavoidable. And I can admit to a little shadenfreude when I saw the picture of her crying in the back of a police car.

Yes, she deserved the sentence. No, she doesn't merit so much publicity.

What I found interesting, though, was the most recent report, where she apparently told Barbara Walters that she's been stupid, she thought it was good to act stupid, and that it "isn't cute anymore," and that maybe people should stop focusing so much on her and focus instead on more important things, like, say, Iraq.

Does this mean she's growing up? With her resources, she could educate herself and do a lot of good in the world, but something tells me that's not likely to happen.

Here's the thinkprogress article on the coverage (or actually, it's a compilation of links to other posts):

times two."


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 10:47 AM

If someone called Twin Towers Facility got sentenced, would they serve their time in the Paris Hilton?


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 10:09 AM

"Sanctimonious" and "twit" are an adjective and a noun, but not a name, per se. They're more a statement of your condition, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 08:37 AM

Don: I can see you feel rather strongly about this matter, but do please try to maintain a measure of decorum. Name-calling does not become you.

My apologies for not seeing things the same way you do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 05:31 AM

In Rehab?

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: guitar
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 05:01 AM

Well for one thing she isn't poor and she's just a spoiled little woman who thinks like people like her are above the law, I mean if it anyone else they would of got a longer sentence.

Serves her right.

Where's your mummy now?


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 01:16 AM

Actually, Don, probbaly not so much pathos, as bathos....


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 01:08 AM

If the young lady is pathetic, then it is she who has rendered herself thus. And as to your accusation of "mud slinging," most of the comments here have to do with what she did to got herself into this predicament, along with general comments about those who think their wealth puts them above the rest of the human race and renders them immune to the consequences, legal and otherwise, of their actions (see the Fitzgerald quote above).

Granted, Miss Hilton is not worth all the attention she gets, including the attention she's getting here on Mudcat, but it's interesting to note that you seem eager to don your shining armor, mount your noble steed, and ride out to rescue the poor, downtrodden maiden from we fire-breathing dragons.

Don't be such a sanctimonious twit.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 01:00 AM

Don, I like your spin on it. Reminds me of a Monty Python skit about the village idiot.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 11 Jun 07 - 12:54 AM

For some, dianavan, that is no choice at all....


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 10 Jun 07 - 11:49 PM

meself - You have the choice to read or not to read. You have the choice to contribute or not to contribute.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Jun 07 - 11:43 PM

Sheesh!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 10 Jun 07 - 10:13 PM

Okay, now I get it - slinging mud at that pathetic P.H. is a way to protest the Iraq war. It all makes sense now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Jun 07 - 09:23 PM

"Who gives a damn about P.H."

"Quite a number of Mudcatters, apparently."

Well, let's put it this way, O Aloof and Superior Ones:

With the news being what it has been for the past few years, it's a bit of a break—and a breath of slightly less fetid air—to observe an idiot run amok (amid all the other idiots run amok) who, although she did act in a potentially dangerous manner, is not in a position to issue orders that result in the deaths of tens or hundreds of thousands of people, and who, when she exercises her idiocy, she gets her come-uppance.

I notice that you guys felt impelled to look in to see what was going on. And felt impelled to comment.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Alice
Date: 10 Jun 07 - 08:27 PM

Reading a related news story online today, I came across a new word I had not seen before:
"heirhead".


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Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 10 Jun 07 - 06:26 PM

Quite a number of Mudcatters, apparently ...


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