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Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford

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Johnhenry'shammer 12 May 07 - 05:14 PM
Mark Ross 12 May 07 - 06:48 PM
GUEST,Art Thieme 12 May 07 - 07:43 PM
dick greenhaus 12 May 07 - 08:31 PM
iancarterb 13 May 07 - 12:42 AM
Dave Hanson 13 May 07 - 04:32 AM
Big Al Whittle 13 May 07 - 04:37 AM
GUEST,Art Thieme 13 May 07 - 10:52 PM
GUEST,Art Thieme 13 May 07 - 11:20 PM
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Subject: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: Johnhenry'shammer
Date: 12 May 07 - 05:14 PM

I was wondering if anybody had any more details on the interesting relationship of these two musicians. Every book of music that Pete has put out seems to have something praising Bascom Lamar Lunsford's repetoir or banjo skills but I've heard stories of Bascom calling Pete an "un-American pinko" and banning artists who were friends with Pete Seeger from performing at the Asheville Folk Festival. So is it true that Bascom hated Pete so much? And did Pete just not care or did he, privately, have just as strong of feelings about him? Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: Mark Ross
Date: 12 May 07 - 06:48 PM

Talk to Frank Hamilton, who appears on this forum under another name,
about that. You've got the basic details right.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 12 May 07 - 07:43 PM

Frank already talked, in this forum, about his trip with Billy Faier and Jack Elliott to the festival. He went into pretty much detail. He was posting under his own name back then.

Art


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 12 May 07 - 08:31 PM

I spoke with Lunsford back in 1953; never discussed it with Seeger. The feeling I got was that Lunsford detested Pete's politics, but further felt that an area of music that had been his for a long time was being usurped by city-bred outsiders. I was at the festival with some friends, and we were certainly allowed to perform, though the introduction of "some Jewish boys from New York" upset some of us, and some of the audience.
    Lunsford was very much a man of his time, and that time had some pretty ugly warts. He was, however, a fine musician, collector and a dam' fine composer and banjo picker.


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: iancarterb
Date: 13 May 07 - 12:42 AM

he hadn't mellowed much by 1964!


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 13 May 07 - 04:32 AM

Jack Elliott always refered to him as Bastard Lampoon Lunchfart, just about sums it up.

eric


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 May 07 - 04:37 AM

anybody got a reference for Frank's posting that Art talks about?


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 13 May 07 - 10:52 PM

I'm trying to find it!! We'll see.

In the meantime, check out the thread I just freshed yet again----the one called "What Was Lee Hayes Really Like"! Some of your questions can/might get answered within the info thats there. FRANK HAMILTON is all through that thread.

Enjoy.

Art


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 13 May 07 - 11:20 PM

Check out the thread I've just refreshed called AMERICAN SECULARIST TRADTION

It is in the BS section---below.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 13 May 07 - 11:22 PM

...that's where Frank Hamilton tells how they responded to Lunsford's introduction.

Art


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 14 May 07 - 12:52 AM

I already posted this to the "Secularianism" thread, but it belongs here:

As one of the introductees on that occasion, I can only say that either my memory of Frank's is a little off--it was, after all, over a half-century ago. I recall "three Jewish boys from New York." And while I was (and still am) a bit dense , I was no more offended than I had been a few days earlier when someone, admiringly, said "You can pick that banjo like a nigger."
    Attitudes about race, religion and ethnicity were largely institutional, not personal (I know, that really doesn't excuse them, but If you want to attack someone, attack the culture, not the man.) Jews were a mysterious novelty to many folks in North Carolina back then. I recall another member of my little group bristling when some folks in the next campsite asked if we were Jews--and then subsiding when we learned that they wished to offer us some home-canned vegetables, and were worried that we'd be upset by the fact that they were cooked with ham.


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger and Bascom Lamar Lunsford
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 May 07 - 03:36 AM

Many thanks Art!


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