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Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer

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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin I-O-M
Date: 29 May 07 - 10:36 AM

Apparently its a fact. Loyalware! Perhaps royalties will flow from there with the abundance of milk and honey?


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 29 May 07 - 10:41 AM

Loyalware's incorporation address as registered at Companies House is in Pawnshop Passage in Louth.
About right for weasels.
Oops, did I really say that out loud?


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin I-O-M
Date: 29 May 07 - 12:33 PM

And there's more....................

Celtic Visions, owned by D R Bulmer and Ruth Bulmer! and its office too is in Pawnshop Passage. Class.


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 29 May 07 - 12:55 PM

Am I mistaken, or was Louth (Lincolnshire UK) the town where Mr Sharpley was Coroner, or somesuch for a short time a while ago before things took a downward turn?

I have to say that a more apposite name for a business address would be hard to imagine.

And having just done a Multimap search for Pawnshop Passages, it does exist, but it can't be very big, you can't zoom in close eough to see it.

Are there anymore companies in P Passages, I wonder??

And does anyone know the whereabouts of Mr Cooksey? I would dearly love to hear about his action with regards "The Sick Note"

Regards to all Ralphie

(Mr Tyke has gone a bit quiet today, hasn't he?)


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 29 May 07 - 01:03 PM

Mr S, the ex-solicitor, had a little contretemps with the good burghers of Louth who decided he wasn't fit to be their coroner after his run-in with the Law Society.

It is also the provenance of S&B's venture into Irish music publishing, though the four volumes are long out of print.

Pat Cooksey . . . ah yes. Looking.


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin I-O-M
Date: 29 May 07 - 01:29 PM

...........and M O R E ..............

CELTIC ROOTS LIMITED   ...... registered office is in .... yes, you've guessed......Pawnshop Passage


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 29 May 07 - 03:05 PM

So,
In this interestingly named "Pawnshop Passage" In Louth Lincs UK.
We have three companies.

Loyalware plc
Celtic Visions
Celtic Roots Ltd.

No sign of
Celtic Music
Music By Mail....(as yet)

Anyone want to add to the list?

Ralph


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 30 May 07 - 01:55 AM

CM Records Ltd
PR Records Ltd


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 May 07 - 08:26 AM

glancing up, I notice six threads about Dave Bulmer which have been closed,now a seventh[the morality of collecting].
does he enter the guinness book of records,for having the most threads closed.


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin I-O-M
Date: 30 May 07 - 01:47 PM

The number of threads, closed, aborted, and continuing show the general annoyance of the UK folk world to Bulmer (and Sharpley). It may well qualify for the Guinness Book Of Records - but what a crap record to hold!

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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 May 07 - 01:59 PM

yes you think he might do something to improve his image,like release the NicJones tapes or if they are still in salvageable condition the Mike and Lal tapes.
Come on Dave,you did the decent thing by MickTems,do the decent thing for Nic Jones.


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 30 May 07 - 02:08 PM

A crap record? Yes.
But how easily could this be reversed . . . ?
Dave Bulmer surely would like to be the most loved and revered bloke in the history of trad music (OK, that's pushing it).
But we'd all think he was quite a nice guy (and he'd get some dosh) if he'd just do a deal with the artists whose work has been buried for so long.
As Dick says, he did it for Mick Tems. So why not for Nic Jones?
Very many people (including him) would become a lot happier than they are today.
Is there anything wrong with that?
Tyke, where are ya?


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,someguyonabike
Date: 30 May 07 - 05:26 PM

I just put this fabulous Watersons Mighty River Of Song [Box] [CD & DVD] up for auction at ebay current bid is only $7.50

ebay auction

I am willing to ship this Internationally. Please contact me before bidding and I will research the cost for you. Thank You!!

Contains 4 music CDs, a DVD of the acclaimed Travelling For A Living documentary, 52 page full color booklet - profusely illustrated with extensive notes and a full discography. Researched and compiled by David Suff. Booklet, CDs, DVD, box and large fold out discography are all in excellent condition. Imported

DVD "Travelling For A Living" the film about the The Watersons
   
[from the notes by Derrick Knight (script, direction, producer) in 1966]

Four young people huddle in the cold and discomfort of an old van as they travel, maybe hundreds of miles, to a singing engagement in a folk club, and back again to their home town of Hull. They are a group called The Watersons - Michael, Norma and Elaine Waterson, brother and two sisters, and their cousin John Harrison.

The three Watersons were orphaned in early life and brought up by a fiercely matriarchal grandmother who said they had to stick together. Even today the closeness of the family unit is maintained.

Despite the fact that two of them have married, they all live together in a single scruffy terraced house, whose centre is a common kitchen, always full of friends and noise. This close, cosy home life is in total contrast to their professional life. In the last two years the Watersons have become one of the most popular folk singing groups in the country, yet they are far removed from the fashionable exhibitionist folk singers.

This film is about the Watersons' world. It is about their lives - down to earth, vibrant, receptive and haunted by all kinds of influences from the past: their Irish tinker and farming ancestry, their grandmother's second-hand shop where a love of tradition grew up among horse brasses and sing-songs, the rich historical and trading association of the port of Hull. Above all it is about exciting old music, its source and its meaning today. In this film the Watersons are placed against the broader picture of the folk revival.



I am willing to ship this Internationally. Please contact me before bidding and I will research the cost for you. Thank You!!


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: Effsee
Date: 30 May 07 - 07:36 PM

Oi! You gettoffa our thread!!


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST,GUEST: Nigel Spencer
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 07:16 PM

Could I reply to George's red herring about home taping? There's loads of times I've made compilation tapes for friends and more recently compilation CDS - and guess what? They've gone out and bought albums by the artists concerned. There's a WORLD of difference between turning friends onto great music and systematically bootlegging other people's work (which despite ownership of the recordings, DB is doing when he releases royalty-free CDrs). George's argument - at best - is disengenious. Could I also add that I bought 'Bright Phoebus' on CD from a local record shop, thinking it was bonafide - as did the shopkeeper. It's only now I realise I was sold a CDr. I don't mind that. It's the dishonesty around the whole thing I can't stand - especially around royalties. When I buy a CD I hope the artist profits - and if not I want to know why not... DB's apologists ALL sound like hollow man. Maybe they should take a few minutes to genuinely reflect on their arguments? I'm not sure - for example - that citing the miner's strike is a reason to continue to rip off relatively impoverished folk artists 20 or more years down the line...

Cheers

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 07:42 PM

As I read this thread I get more and more pissed off with this Tyke/George Clarke fellow. Could I just point out that his being a northerner does not somehow make his rubbish arguments more valid? Speaking as a northerner.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus/Watersons/Bulmer
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 08:13 PM

And if you're pissed off at somebody or anoter, you can't carry on a civil discussion, can you?
Stick to the facts of the discussion, and don't get involved in ad hominem discussions. I'd hate to have to take this topic off the table because the Brits can't seem to have a civil discussion of it.
I'm going to close this thread. If you want to continue the discussion, start another thread - and keep it civil.
-Joe Offer-


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