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Contrived Pub names

Bugsy 03 May 07 - 04:43 AM
Liz the Squeak 03 May 07 - 04:23 AM
Splott Man 03 May 07 - 04:07 AM
Geoff the Duck 02 May 07 - 07:26 PM
Liz the Squeak 02 May 07 - 04:36 PM
Vixen 02 May 07 - 11:54 AM
Rog Peek 02 May 07 - 11:36 AM
Y_Not 02 May 07 - 11:35 AM
Kevin Sheils 02 May 07 - 11:15 AM
Menno 02 May 07 - 11:03 AM
Betsy 02 May 07 - 11:01 AM
stallion 02 May 07 - 10:54 AM
Mr Fox 02 May 07 - 10:52 AM
Leadfingers 02 May 07 - 10:19 AM
GUEST,By eck 02 May 07 - 08:49 AM
GUEST,Elfcall 02 May 07 - 08:14 AM
Geoff the Duck 02 May 07 - 08:12 AM
Liz the Squeak 02 May 07 - 08:06 AM
Liz the Squeak 02 May 07 - 08:01 AM
Splott Man 02 May 07 - 07:48 AM
Bernard 02 May 07 - 07:43 AM
Liz the Squeak 02 May 07 - 07:00 AM
greg stephens 02 May 07 - 06:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Bugsy
Date: 03 May 07 - 04:43 AM

Here in Perth WA we have a few "English" & "Irish" pubs.

Moon & Sixpence
Elephant & Wheelbarrow
Slug & Hare
JB O'Reilly's
Durty Nelly's
Rosie O'Grady's

To name but a few


Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 May 07 - 04:23 AM

There's the Green Man and French Horn in St Martin's Lane, just off Trafalgar Square, London. Expensive but has proper beer, great food and a cute barman. No idea how it got it's name but it's been there for many many years.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Splott Man
Date: 03 May 07 - 04:07 AM

The Leg of Mutton and Cauliflower's name certainly goes back to the 60s, thus predating the trend for silly contrived names. I don't know how much further back it goes though.

Didn't Mike Harding start this trend in his monologues in the early 70s, or was he just heading up something that was already happening? I remember the Pig and Ball Bearing in one of his pomes.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 02 May 07 - 07:26 PM

Anybody know if the "Little Pub Company" is still running in the Midlands. Mad O'Rourke's Pie Factory at Tipton and others such sa the little Sausage Factory at Cradley Heath were well worth a visit for novelty value.Pub chain mottoes included
"The customer is always wrong" and "Drink harder and faster"
I recall once having Black Pudding Thermidor - described on the menu as "like lobster thermidor, but with black pudding".
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 May 07 - 04:36 PM

I knew it was the Golden Grove... I just didn't spell it that way!

There is a pub in Lychett Minster, Dorset, with a name most people think is totally modern and silly - St Peter's Finger. It's actually older than the building which is at least 200 years old, and is a corruption of St Peter ad Vincula. It's known in the local area as 'Pete's Digit'.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Vixen
Date: 02 May 07 - 11:54 AM

Here on t'other side of the Pond we have very few interesting pub names, showing nowhere near the originality and charm of English pubs. The two exceptions that spring to mind are "No Place" and "The Village". I have always thought that the idea behind those two was to disguise where you had been and/or where you were going.

V


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Rog Peek
Date: 02 May 07 - 11:36 AM

Back in the sixties (the post Beaching era) in Malmesbury, Wilts they changed the name of 'The Station' to 'The Flying Monk' after Elmer the monk, who made himself a pair of wings and flew off the top of Malmesbury Abbey. I believe the first recorded instance of man flying. They say he flew quite a distance, mostly downwards, although he did land some distance away breaking both of his legs.
The pubs name was changed following a re-enactment of Elmers flight by the army, via a line stretched from the top of the Abbey to the ground to celebrate an anniversary of the original event.

The pub name was quite unique and sadly the pub has gone now, making way for a housing development.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Y_Not
Date: 02 May 07 - 11:35 AM

Where I grew up the local pub was THE FARMERS ARMS and it was almost a tradition that as soon as the landlord replaced the "M" in ARMS the kids would nick it again.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 02 May 07 - 11:15 AM

LtS

Good guesses at the JDW pub names but the Stratford one is The Goldengrove and the Forest Gate one is The Hudson Bay.

I think your guesses sum up Wetherspoons in general, so similar that they are not particularly memorable so tend to get referred to as The Wetherspoons and the names are forgotten

I'm not sure why I remember the Stratford one as I've only been there once about 10 years ago. Been to the FG one more often and probably remember the name as one of the regular friends I went with was called Hudson.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Menno
Date: 02 May 07 - 11:03 AM

If ever I start an Irish pub, I shall call it "The Craic House".


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Betsy
Date: 02 May 07 - 11:01 AM

These are all pretty good names with the exception of the Faltering Fullback and The Leg of Mutton and Cauliflower which don't easily fall off the tongue .
Spinner & Bergamot, doesn't fall easily off the tongue but it has genuine roots !!!!
Love 'Sally Up Steps'.
I agree wholeheartedly with Geoff the Duck, about Scruffy this and Dirty (or Durty) (or Dutty) that - all shitty contrived names.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: stallion
Date: 02 May 07 - 10:54 AM

Here in York we have a pub name changed to it's knickname The Unicorn Inn is now the Corner Pin It would be interesting to see if some of the other knicknames get adopted "The Spread Eagle" - "The Dead Beagle", The Brigadier Gerrard - The Belgrano. A recent quiz question in the local pub asked what one pub was called in 1992, we went through half a dozen names before making a selection, we wrong and we had not even considered the correct answer! Does anyone know if "The Labour In Vain" in Yarnfield Staffs is still open, it has always struck me as the strangest name for a pub.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Mr Fox
Date: 02 May 07 - 10:52 AM

The Rat and Parrot has always annoyed me for some reason as does The Slug and Lettuce (though I suppose it tells you what your bar meal is going to be like) and contractions of original names like turning The Queen Victoria into Vicky's Bar.

There was a Frog and Radiator in Greenwich - on the corner of Trafalgar Road and Tunnel Avenue. It has now reverten to it's original name, The Ship and Billet.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Leadfingers
Date: 02 May 07 - 10:19 AM

The Lamorna Inn (Twas down in Albert Square) was a 'known ' Smugglers pub , and was always referred to as 'The Wink' .


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: GUEST,By eck
Date: 02 May 07 - 08:49 AM

The Commerical in Esholt (Yorkshire) was the Woolpack in Emmerdale, before they moved and built a set in THE grounds of Harewood house. It has now changed it's name to yes you've guessed ...... the Woolpack.

The Fleece in upper Eldwick was locally known as Dick Hudson's and it has now changed to that name


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: GUEST,Elfcall
Date: 02 May 07 - 08:14 AM

The Faltering Fullback used to be called 'The Cock' and was a local landmark in Palmers Green because it has a bus garage behind it and buses would often terminate there - and have 'The Cock, Palmers Green' on their destination boards. It is at a major road junction.

I never liked the pub whatever it was called!!

Elfcall


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 02 May 07 - 08:12 AM

Some are contrived but acceptable. A number of years back, in Badford, near the university there opened a new pub. It was a building which hadn't previously been a pub. The new pub was named "Delius lived next door". It was in the old Victorian house which was next door to one where the composer, Frederick Delius once lived.

I always found the Scruffy Murphy's chain particularly racially offensive. If someone had opened a food outlet named Greasy Abdul's they would have been prosecuted for the name.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 May 07 - 08:06 AM

A number fell out.. that should be the A406, better known as the infamous North Circular!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 May 07 - 08:01 AM

There's a Faltering Fullback on the A40 in west London... never did work out why except it is a huge sports pub.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Splott Man
Date: 02 May 07 - 07:48 AM

I like The Leg of Mutton and Cauliflower in Ashtead. Is it still there?


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Bernard
Date: 02 May 07 - 07:43 AM

Occasionally names are changed to reflect colloquial usage...

A pub in Bolton, Lancs, had its name changed to 'Sally Up Steps' because that had been its local nickname for many years, due to the number of steps leading up to the front door. Sadly, it closed some years ago and is now a Chinese restaurant... I think it was originally the Stanley Arms.

Another Bolton pub (with a spectacular panoramic view) is Bob's Smithy, supposedly named after the blacksmith who spent more time in the pub than he did at work!

Possibly unique is the Spinner & Bergamot, Comberbach, Cheshire, which is named after after two famous race hourses owned by the local gentry of nearby Marbury Hall in the late 1700s.

They were very successful, and made a fortune for the Smith Barry family who also owned the Spinner Pub. It became the Spinner and Bergamot because they believed that the pub gave them good luck and fortune...!

Or so the story goes...


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 May 07 - 07:00 AM

I feel that way about Wetherspoons.

Now Wetherspoons do great beers, they do fantastic food at sensible, family friendly prices, and they don't do loud shouty music often... but they're generic. You can go into a Wetherspoons in London and find exactly the same fayre as a Wetherspoons in Skegness.

Rarely now are the pubs being called by their proper names... the one nearest us is actually called 'The Millers Well' but is universally known as the Wetherspoons opposite the town hall. Then there's the big Wetherspoons in Stratford (E15), or the little one in Forest Gate. These are respectively, the Golden Globe or ?the Cutter (can't actually remember but it is some ship or other).

Everywhere you go now, you get huge companies taking over places and turning them into generic, cloned, identical places, where you are offered the same food, the same selection of beers and the same 'serve 'em quick and get 'em out' style of service. It's not just the pub names that are contrived (the 'Slug and [insert vegetable] chain springs to mind) but the whole 'friendly local' aspect that's as fake as the plastic beams and Chinese repro horse brasses.

LTS


Some of the contrived names are amusing - the Frog and Radiator is a jolly juxtoposition of the sublime and ridiculous, but others are just plain


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 May 07 - 06:07 AM

The changing of a perfectly good old pub name to the "Scruffy O'Hooligan" type of name used to annoy me, but I'm glad to see some are now reverting to their old names.


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Subject: RE: Contrived Pub names
From: Leadfingers
Date: 02 May 07 - 06:02 AM

The Sign outside a good old pub that really annoys me is 'MacDonalds' !!


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Subject: Contrived Pub names
From: Betsy
Date: 02 May 07 - 06:00 AM

I was just sending a message re "Tap and Spile" reverting back to the Station.The Tap and Spile is a fairly good name ,but the worst I can remember was in Twickenham many years ago - changed names since I believe - called the Hedgehog and Stump.
Incidentally a Twickenham pub has also one my favourite pub names "The Cabbage Patch " (and I don't follow Rugby).
And , don't you just hate all that crap about Purveyors / Fine Ales etc especially when they only have bog-standard beer and lager.
One of our well known Folkies always hated the Pub sign "The New Inn" he used to go crackers when he saw that name .
What's your most disliked pub name ?


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