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Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester

GUEST,Guest 29 Jan 18 - 11:54 AM
Paul Reade 26 Jan 18 - 05:18 PM
GUEST,Trevor jones, I used to play at the Wagon 25 Jan 18 - 05:03 PM
GUEST,Trevor Jones 30 Nov 17 - 12:24 AM
Stanron 20 Sep 15 - 06:25 PM
Les in Chorlton 20 Sep 15 - 11:38 AM
The Sandman 20 Sep 15 - 10:22 AM
GUEST 20 Sep 15 - 09:38 AM
GUEST 20 Sep 15 - 09:31 AM
Les in Chorlton 18 Sep 15 - 02:02 PM
GUEST,Rob Hunt 18 Sep 15 - 11:05 AM
GUEST,Ray 06 Jul 09 - 01:15 PM
GUEST,Chris J Brady 05 Jul 09 - 09:33 PM
GUEST,Jack Taylor,Kendal 17 Mar 09 - 12:29 AM
greg stephens 08 Sep 08 - 10:06 AM
Bryn Pugh 08 Sep 08 - 09:49 AM
The Sandman 07 Sep 08 - 05:37 PM
Frank Duffy's daughter 07 Sep 08 - 03:03 PM
GUEST,Oldtimer 16 Jul 08 - 11:56 AM
GUEST,smiffy 16 Jul 08 - 11:47 AM
Bill S from Adelaide 23 Aug 07 - 09:43 AM
GUEST,Ray 22 Aug 07 - 11:28 AM
rinso 22 Aug 07 - 11:14 AM
Dave the Gnome 22 Aug 07 - 04:25 AM
GUEST 21 Aug 07 - 07:10 PM
doncatterall 21 Aug 07 - 03:17 PM
Edmond 21 Aug 07 - 08:48 AM
Dave the Gnome 21 Aug 07 - 08:12 AM
GUEST 21 Aug 07 - 07:50 AM
Bert 17 Aug 07 - 01:53 AM
Edmond 16 Aug 07 - 10:13 AM
GUEST,sinky 08 Aug 07 - 02:17 PM
Vin2 08 Aug 07 - 11:55 AM
doncatterall 08 Aug 07 - 08:55 AM
Vin2 08 Aug 07 - 08:27 AM
Dave the Gnome 08 Aug 07 - 04:04 AM
Richard in Manchester 08 Aug 07 - 03:15 AM
Les in Chorlton 08 Aug 07 - 02:44 AM
Vin2 03 Aug 07 - 04:49 AM
Baggins 360 03 Aug 07 - 04:37 AM
GUEST,Frank Duffy's daughter 03 Aug 07 - 04:05 AM
Dave the Gnome 17 Jul 07 - 04:11 AM
GUEST,Terry 16 Jul 07 - 08:06 PM
The Sandman 16 Jul 07 - 05:19 PM
GUEST,june ratcliffe 16 Jul 07 - 04:23 PM
Edmond 16 Jul 07 - 09:14 AM
Vin2 16 Jul 07 - 08:27 AM
SussexCarole 15 Jul 07 - 06:03 PM
John Routledge 15 Jul 07 - 05:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 29 Jan 18 - 11:54 AM

Mark E Smith?


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Paul Reade
Date: 26 Jan 18 - 05:18 PM

Referring to the title, I?d like to nominate myself as one of the worst folkies to come out of Greater Manchester! Still croaking after all these years.

Seriously though, never saw this thread before. What a great list of singers / memories!


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Trevor jones, I used to play at the Wagon
Date: 25 Jan 18 - 05:03 PM

I played at the Wagon and horses in the early 60s.Harry and Dave were great teachers. I have been a professional musician since the late 60s I saw some of the best folk singers touring through lancs at that time WONDERFUL MEMORIES thx Dave and Harry I live in MARICOPA AZ now, and I am still playing 5 NJGHTS A WEEK in bars casinos Irish pubs across the soutthwest USA. SAT AND SUN AT rula bula Tempe az


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Trevor Jones
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 12:24 AM

I used to play at the Waggon and Horses in the early 60s. Harry and Terry ran a great folk club.guests were some of the iconic writers and musicians of that time, the music was honest and wonderful .Every performer was treated with respect- we all learned every session.Harry was generous with his knowledge, as was Dave. I have been playing music in and behind bars since that time. Those two gentlemen encouraged me and every performer to nail it. No PA system, just people making music. It wasnt perfect,but it was great


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Stanron
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 06:25 PM

Fond memories for me, and the order is NOT significant,

Tony Hill
Mary Asquith
Ian Chisholme
Pete Farrow
Lea Nicholson
Mike Harding
Harry Boardman

and, of course, all the others.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 11:38 AM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GSS


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 10:22 AM

Ewan MacColl


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 09:38 AM

I forgot to mention my name - Ivan Kelsall.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Sep 15 - 09:31 AM

I knew all of them except for Redmayne.Harry Boardman lived not far from my home & i got to know him very well. Mike Harding became a good friend,& i knew Al Lawrence as well,but i think he went to live on the Isle of Man.
    Lots of good singers & musicians came & went over the years,almost too many to mention.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 02:02 PM

Gorton Tank took some beating


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Rob Hunt
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 11:05 AM

Best folkies to come from Greater Manchester for me Mary Asquith, Marie Little, Redmayne,Harry boardman, Mike harding. Best guitarist Al Lawrence. Only my opinion of course.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 01:15 PM

I suspect the song would have been written by Ken Campbell if that's any help. (Not to be confused with the famous Ken Campbell of acting/producing fame who, incidentally, was also on the folk scene back in the 70's with the Ken Campbell Roadshow)
Ray


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Subject: RE: Greater Manchester Folkies - Pennine Folk
From: GUEST,Chris J Brady
Date: 05 Jul 09 - 09:33 PM

Hi folks.

Does anyone remember the Pennine Folk Group? I first heard them on a BBC folk prog. from Manchester in the 1960s when I was at college in Loughborough. There was a song they sang that is still maggoting around my brain called 'The Ballad of Gypsy Moth' just after Sir Francis Chichester's epic round the world voyage on the yacht - which incidentally has just recently been restored for sail training for youngsters.

But having crewed many tall ships and nearly been shipwrecked in force 11 gales at least twice (both in the English Channel), the chorus to the ballad still springs to mind:

"Hey, ho, roll and go,
Around the Horn in the months of snow,
How many time can a man defy
The raging seas and the rolling sky?"

Does anyone have the rest of the words, or better a recording please?


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Jack Taylor,Kendal
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 12:29 AM

The Waggon & Horses just off Bridge Street was the Wayfarers' meeting place before Harry; Terry and Dave moved to The Clarendon on Oxford Road (larger room to accommodate the ever-growing audience.) This left a vacant space for me to start my club at the Waggon.      
    Floor singers in those early 1960's included Tom Gilfellon and Dave Hillary. They both went on to become residents at Harry's club. We also had Christy Moore regularly as he was attending college in Manchester for a couple of years. Frank Duffy too was a regular singer with us until he went to host the MSG sessions and suffer Jinks. I had to contend with that problem later when Frank went on to follow his acting career and Jinks asked me to run the MSG folk programme putting Drony in charge of hosting the Monday night singers' club and compering the Friday and Saturday guest nights.
    Terry Griffiths also used to be a regular at Harry's club. She used to perform some lovely English songs, "Whistle Daughter Whistle," and "The Banks of Sweet Primroses," spring to mind.      
    I remember we recorded an LP at the MSG around 1964/5 featuring a number of our local singers, The Pennine Folk; Harry Ogden; Lyn Sidebotham etc. Must be a collectors' item now. We only pressed 100 copies!
    Amongst all the folk goings on I managed to publish regular issues of my folk magazine "Ballads & Songs" with the help of such folk as Mike Yates (now with the EFDSS at Regents Park)and Paul Graney's labrinth of recordings.
    Many good memories of the early days in Manchester before I was whisked away to Nigeria in 1969 and before it became "Greater."


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Sep 08 - 10:06 AM

Very sorry to hear about Frank. My condolences to all.
On another note, anybody go to the Urban Folk(New Islington) Festival in Ancoats on Saturday? I have ben working on the "Seven Tunes called Manchester Hornpipe" project with the rap collective Rhyhm'n'Grime for a while now, and we did some acoustic numbers in a very short spot on Saturday afternoon(blink and you missed it). Many folkies find rap scary, noisy and intimidating, but it doesn't have to be. Have a listen to the two tracks labelled "rap" here at
Boat Band Myspace.
I hope you might find them interesting, even endearing. We are also making the full on drum and bassy stuff, but I wont scare you all with that yet!


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 08 Sep 08 - 09:49 AM

Oh dear. Very sad to hear about Frank.

Living in Northants I can't physically be there, Christine, but will be there in spirit.

Ar dheis De go rabh a anam.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 05:37 PM

salford star,I played there many times,they had a one armed barman / landlord.
Martin Gittins,he had a mandolin player and side kick called rob rybichi who was a cobbler in Todmorden .


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Frank Duffy's daughter
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 03:03 PM

Hello,

Just to say that Frank Duffy died last Wednesday and his funeral is on Friday Sep 12th at 12 noon at St Catherines, School Lane, Didsbury. We will be very glad to see anyone that knew him.

Christine


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Subject: RE: Hindle Wakes
From: GUEST,Oldtimer
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 11:56 AM

Just spotted comment on Hindle Wakes.Saw them at a charity folk do earlier this year in Denshaw - cracking night, exc songs and singing.
Even bought the CD mentioned!


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,smiffy
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 11:47 AM

One of my fav bands from those days was Hindle Wakes - was and still is!
It's 30 years since they made a terrific live album at the Cross Keys - and I've recently seen a CD remaster of it. I remember them from a club run at Crumpsall Hospital (as was) in the 70s. They were resident with guests like Mike Harding and Dave and June Brooks.
And they're still going strong!


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Bill S from Adelaide
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 09:43 AM

Enjoyed reading this thread.
I was on the Salford Uni Folk Club Committee 1969-73, not that I knew much about folk then. We were the most community activity at the Uni by far and could draw up to 300 on Sunday nights from the tower blocks around us. We had contact with the MSG as they had the sole agency and we had to book through them in those days.
In the mid 70's, I returned to M'cr to work (?) for BR. I joined Adlington Morris, then Gorton Morris. Gorton's first dance out took place 200 years to the day since the last record of the old side in the Gorton Recorder in 1775 (the Morrismen failed to turn out this year). Chris Cole was the main musician and taught Keith and Janet Hancock. Alison was Barry Billinge's sister and she with Tony played in the Gorton Silver Band. We used to visit the old folks homes each year and dance to the full silver band, which was magic, our kid! Gorton Tank evolved from the morris musicians.
There was a folk club at the Bird in Hand in Urmston, I remember seeing Mike Harding there "I'll do this song for my mother, who is up there somewhere.... (she's not dead, she's nicking lead off roof)", nobody mentined that.
Harry Boardman and Chris ran a club in the City for a few years, can't remember the name, but the Bass was good.
And for those who ask, Wigan, Bolton and Oldham are in Greater Manchester (and I was born in what is still Lancashire)
On my last night in England, we were partied out and went for a quiet pint at the Grey Horse in Gatley. Harry and Leslie happened to join us and we had a great night with them. Harry would have to be the most important folkie from Manchester much as I enjoyed Bernard Wrigley and the Tinkers.
As one of less than a taxi full of lanky folkies in Perth, it is easier to pick one here.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 11:28 AM

I'm sure he meant the Pennine folk - (Ken Campbell, Chris Swann, Pete Astles and a couple of other's I can't quite remember) not seen any of them for years.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: rinso
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 11:14 AM

Hi Vin I've noticed you mentioned the Pennine Folk and wonder if you mean the Pendle Folk, Pete Nash,Roger Westbrook and I think their partners (late 60s early 70s)


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 04:25 AM

Martin did a few renunions taking it well past 1996. Got some of the top acts back as well. Not sure if it was the poor attendances or the corridor shaped room which was the only access to the very smelly gents!

Dave


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 07:10 PM

What about the star folk club,salford ? Run by Martin Gittins for many years till about 1996 0r so. He had a guest every week, Jolly Jack, Jim Couza, Bernard Wrigley, Harding, Des Friel, some great nights, but I believe poor attendance put paid to the whole game. Sad, saw top performers in there with maybe half a dozen in attendance. I think an acoustic guitar still hangs on the wall in there which was signed by many of the acts.
    Please remember to use a consistent name when you post. Messages with the "from" space blank, risk being deleted.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: doncatterall
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 03:17 PM

well said Bryn - reminds me of Noel Murphy At MSG announcing "they say I'm a cult figure but they can't even spell it"


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Edmond
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 08:48 AM

A mis-spelling, surely - BERK rather than BERT ?

Bryn Pugh


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 08:12 AM

Thin ice amongst such distinguished names, Bert, thin ice...

:-D


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 07:50 AM

I'd nominate the three students who met at the Royal Northern College of Music in Manchester, and became Uiscedwr.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Bert
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 01:53 AM

I didn't know there was a best ANYTHING from Manchester.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Edmond
Date: 16 Aug 07 - 10:13 AM

Dear Frank Duffy's Daughter,

Thanks for the news about Frank. I knew your Lady Mother, Anna, and your Uncle Sean, who was a doorman at MSG.

Please tell Frank I was asking after him.

Kindest regards, Edmond Bryn Pugh.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,sinky
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 02:17 PM

hey nonny nooasis


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Vin2
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 11:55 AM

MSG was terrific. Jenks was a smallish chap if i remember but his look could kill (Alex Campbell used to call him Mr Jinks - only one who could get away with it!). Remember Pennine Folk there and a band called Sticky George. Saw Magna Carta upstairs a couple of times, Carthy / Swarbrick, Noel Murphy, the Taverners and (Mike Harding (especially on the last night when there was a flood in the gents). Building stood disused for years after it closed. Great shame.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: doncatterall
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 08:55 AM

MSG - what a great club - why was it allowed to close????

One of the most memorable nights was when Carthy failed to show (Jenks was livid - "Carthy's off doing a gig with f*****g Steeleye Span"). Mike Whelan & Aly Bain took over the main spot and Tony Capstick came out of the audience as support.

There was also some terrfic blues in the jazz cellar when some legends were still alive:
Fred McDowell
Sony Terry & Brownie McGee
Rev Gary Davis
Larry Johnson (is he still around?)
etc, etc
plus the likes of JoAnn Kelly, Bob Hall etc

Also remember the Two Brewers in Salford & the TV programmes made there with Pentangle, Ralph McTell etc
Are Dando Shaft still around?
Anyone remember the Pigsty Hill Light Orchestra?


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Vin2
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 08:27 AM

Yeah what a superb bluesey voice Mary Asquith had (probably still has - is she (are you still performing?). Got a copy of an album of hers somewhere; and of course Pete Farrow - the one man band, saw him a lot in the 70's with Paul Connor (rip) and J.Cooper Clarke - great stuff.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 04:04 AM

1st April 1974 - I went to bed in Swinton, Lancashire after a days work at Worsley UDC and woke up in Salford, Greater Manchester and went to work for Salford MDC. It was a hell of shock to the system I'll tell you!

They did a TV show of Folk from the Two Brewers - All the big names were on.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Richard in Manchester
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 03:15 AM

Pleased to see Pete Farrow and Mary Asquith get a couple of mentions here. And Dave Tucker - beautiful, silky style. His fiddle-playing wasn't bad either. He played in Gorton Tank, did he?


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 02:44 AM

The Wash House Folk Club? Run by Pete McGovern? In a basement of London Road?

Sound historical point about Manchester being in Lancashire, can't argue with that. But for many of us migrant workers who have found a home and a warm welcome here, we see ourselves as Mancunians with out being Lancastrians


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Vin2
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 04:49 AM

Know what you mean Baggins. I was born at 2, Wellock St, Newton Heath, Manchester, Lancs, M10. (now a Sharpe's warehouse). Used to always (still do mostly) end our address labels as 'Manchester, Lancs.' even when moved to Middleton & Heywood, so there you go.

By the way do you remember a pub in Salford called the 'Two Brewers'(i think)? Sure i saw Ralph McTell, Dando Shaft and others perform there in (probably mid to late seventies)?? Then there was the Black Lion where Pete Farrow used to run some fab nights.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Baggins 360
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 04:37 AM

I just thought I'd add this to the string. Most of us Mancunians know that Manchester/Salford is our City BUT our county is Lancashire we are Lancastrians. Those buggers in the Town Hall can call us anything they like, but most of us (of a certain age) that Manchester's where you come from but Lancashire is where you belong to. Nuff said. To add my vote the greatest Folkie from Manchester was Ewan MacColl (who was a Salford Lad, His Dad was Scottish) and to my mind the bestFolkClub in Liverpool was The Wash House.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Frank Duffy's daughter
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 04:05 AM

Hello,

Just to say that my Dad, Frank Duffy, isn't dead! He is alive and (more or less) well although he's in a home in Longsight with dementia. It's nice to know people still remember him. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 04:11 AM

Thanks for reminding us, June. Our loss was great indeed when Dave died and yours must have been even greater.

One of the classic memories I have was of Dave and Martin, dunno where Alan was at the time, singing 'Gungadin' at Swinton Folk Club when it was at the 'Sandhole'. I can still hear it in my mind and always thought that Dave would have really looked the part in a red coat:-)

He also gave me a good ticking off after we had moved to the White Lion for saying, after someone had tuned a guitar, "Good enough for folk". He was a consumate profesional and really believed that folk music, even on an amateur level, should be done well at all times. I believed him then and still do. Never used the expression since!

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,Terry
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 08:06 PM

That would be "Dame Ellen Terry" daughter of Benjamin Terry and Sarah Ballard I believe.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 05:19 PM

yes, Dave Weatherall part of the group Jolly jack,VeryGood


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: GUEST,june ratcliffe
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 04:23 PM

Would like to add my brother,the late Dave Weatherall to your list guess I am bias but always thought he had a great voice.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Edmond
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 09:14 AM

Thanks for jogging my memory, Lea - Ian Chisholm was the only guitarist (and what a guitarist !) I ever saw who could 'bend' a harmonic a la Davy Graham.

I remember him from Mike Stephens' club at the Saddle in Bolton.

Sad about 'Tiger' Moss. Last time I saw him was at the Golden Lion, where he and his lady were handing out 'der-ders' for audience participation.

Anyone know what happened to Trevor Jones, Fallowfield Folkers, White Swan (Mucky Duck), Ladybarn ?

Bryn Pugh


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Vin2
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 08:27 AM

Theresa can usually be seen at Saddleworth festival of which she is a 'firm friend' since it started.


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: SussexCarole
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 06:03 PM

And what about our favourite lady from Manchester....Theresa Tooley!


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: John Routledge
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 05:48 PM

Yes indeed Kitty. Joe Kerins has lived in Manchester for more than fifty years.Longer than most Mancunians :0)


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Subject: RE: Best Folkies from out of Greater Manchester
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 05:45 PM

Not originally from, but living in.... Joe Kerins...


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