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Subject: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,Jasmine
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 10:00 PM

I was randomly surfing around Wikipedia today, and found myself on Ronnie Drew's page - and I was rather shocked to find that it had just been updated today, to say that he had passed away yesterday.

Link to Wikipedia page

Of course, being Wikipedia, it could very well be wrong too. I can't seem to find any other mentions anywhere else online of his passing though - surely that would at least be newsworthy in the UK if not in the US?

I hope it's not true... :(


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Jim Lad
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 10:12 PM

I'll do a quick search.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Jim Lad
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 10:19 PM

"Ronnie Drew passed away on Friday, March 23rd after a long battle with cancer. He died surrounded by family and friends."
From Wikipedia.

"It's nearly over now, Now I'm easy" E. Bogle
It's a sad day.
Jim


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 10:24 PM

I can't find mention of this anywhere else ...


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Brakn
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 10:26 PM

I can't find anything about it. Anyone can submit stuff to Wikipedia; it doesn't have to be true.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,Jasmine
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 10:34 PM

Yes, that's why I was curious. Considering that he has been battling cancer it's certainly plausible, but because anyone can post to Wikipedia without any sort of verification, it can't be relied on. And it seems odd that no news service has picked up the story, seems like they would've had enough time to have published it (even if only online) by now.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Jim Lad
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 12:34 AM

Nothing in any Irish Newspapers or Radio.
People really write stuff like that for kicks?


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: erinmaidin
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:17 AM

I live in Dublin and bought the Irish Independent Newspaper yesterday (Saturday). There was nothing in the paper about Ronnie's passing and there surely would have been had it been true. I'm going out just now to purchase the Times. I'll let ya know what I find out.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: guitar
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:43 AM

i can'ty find it either


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Declan
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:43 AM

I think this is a hoax. If it were true, it would have been on all TV and Radio news bulletins yesterday, but it wasn't. If I hear any news I'll pass it on.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: erinmaidin
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 06:45 AM

Just went to the shops and none of the papers have anything, nor has anything been on the news, like Declan mentioned. The only other possibility I can think of is that Mr.Drew, himself, requested that there not be a "circus" in the event of his passing.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: guitar
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 06:58 AM

if it's true then it's sad however if not then I hope he lives for a long time


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Seaking
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 07:25 AM

The guy is legendary, I just can't imagine a situation where his passing would go quietly or unnoticed - regardless of his own wishes.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 07:48 AM

Is Wikipedia really that untrustworthy? If so, that's very bad news!


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: erinmaidin
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 08:50 AM

Because of his "legendary" status the \Irish media would exactly respect any of his wishes.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: skarpi
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 08:58 AM

if so that Ronnie is not dead , this is the second time that
Wikipedia is telling us wrong about a persons life.

Shame on Wikipedia ,
I cant find anything anywhere about this in the news ?????



I mean if hes gone it should be in Irish news and papers .

All the best Skarpi Iceland , unless his wish has been to have the
funeral in peace.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Declan
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 10:55 AM

Whatever Ronnie's wishes Dublin is too small a place to keep something like this a secret for long.

I imagine that if Ronnie is in good enough health (and I hope he is) that he will get enormous enjoyment out of the fact that as Oscar Wilde once said "the reports of his death have been greatly exagerated".


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Jasmine
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 11:00 AM

Wikipedia can be unreliable, yes. What tends to keep it in the main reliable is that not only can anyone add anything to a page, but also anyone can remove or correct something. Overall that tends to keep the information correct, but it can't ever really be taken as truth unless there are external articles cited within that support it.

I am relieved to hear that there's been nothing in the Irish news, though. I wouldn't expect it to be big news here in the US because he's not nearly as well known here, but I would expect it to be big news across the pond. And I figured that if anyone might be likely to know, it'd be the Mudcatters. That it hasn't been in the news there makes me think that it's a lot less likely to be true. I'd think not at all true except for the above-suggested possibility that it is being kept quiet until after the funeral, but if that's the case it'll be out after.

[and I have to say, what a wonderful and refreshing thought that is - that the media would consent to putting the family's interests above their own even for a short period of time. I cannot imagine the US media doing the same, no matter how beloved or respected the person involved. The US media can pretty well be counted upon to make a circus out of anything and everything that has to do with any public figure, unfortunately.]


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 11:00 AM

I thought it was Mark Twain who said that ...


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Declan
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 11:04 AM

You could well be right meself. Most of these sayings tend to be attributed to Wilde. It was a Wilde guess on my part.

I think I was confusing it with Wilde's statement that he had nothing to declare but his genius.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Fergie
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 11:39 AM

Rumours of Ronnie's demise are grossly exaggerated, there is life in the ould dog yet.


Then Micky Maloney ducked his head
When a bottle of whiskey flew at him,
It missed, and landed on the bed
And the whiskey scattered all over Tim!
Bedad! he revives! See how he raises!
Tim Finnigan rising in the bed,
Says,"Whirl your whiskey 'round like blazes
Be the tundering jasus! Do you thunk I'm dead?"

Whack fol de da, now dance with your partner
Round the floor your trotters shake
Isn't it the truth I told ye,
Lots of fun at Finnegan's wake.

Good on ye Ronnie boy.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Jim Lad
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM

Rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated. Mark Twain.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 01:58 PM

According to one source: The actual Mark Twain quote is "The report of my death was an exaggeration."


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Mickey191
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 02:04 PM

Speaking of Wilde-it's been said that on his deathbed he looked up at the God awful wallpaper surrounding him. In his agony he said:"either the wallpaper goes or I do." And then he died.

Truth or Fiction? I'm sure someone here knows.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: bubblyrat
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 02:18 PM

According to the Daily Telegraph, Dave Swarbrick died YEARS ago !!


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Peace
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 02:29 PM

"Speaking of Wilde-it's been said that on his deathbed he looked up at the God awful wallpaper surrounding him. In his agony he said:"either the wallpaper goes or I do." And then he died.

Truth or Fiction? I'm sure someone here knows."

I do. It was.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 02:44 PM

Way I heard it, it was in actuality several days before he died that he said that. Not quite as effective a story, though.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Mickey191
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 03:03 PM

Peace, I'm glad you do! It was what?


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Jim Lad
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 04:24 PM

My Google's down so I remembered as well as I could. Just thought I'd check in and see who would be first to correct me.
Hey Kat! When's Wee Red's next recital?


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Peace
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 04:26 PM

It was either truth or fiction, Mickey.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Peace
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 04:30 PM

There is a similar type story about WC Fields on his death bed. He was looking back on his life and saying how sorry he was about his dislike of children and dogs. He said he felt terrible for having spoken badly of them in the course of his life. He asked for forgiveness, and then his head slumped back and his eyes closed. As his friend (Barrymore) was leaving the room, Fields is said to have raised himself to his elbows and exclaimed, "On second thought, fuck 'em!" THEN he died.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: erinmaidin
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 04:41 PM

Just checked Wikipedia again. The page has been modified as of this afternoon and no longer reports Mr.Drew's passing. We, in this household, are clinging to the possibilities that it was a total error and are fervant in sending all positive thoughts and energies to himself and his family.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Peace
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 04:47 PM

I just realized on which thread I'd posted the above anecdote regarding Fields. My apologies. And the post saying Wiki has been amended is great news.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:03 PM

Apologies, eh? I think you're setting us up for the W.C. Fields treatment ...


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:15 PM

Last time I saw Ronnie he announced to the audience that he had only 6 months to live. That was in 197? I reckon there's life in the old dog yet?


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 05:42 PM

Working on it, JimLad!:-)


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Effsee
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 09:22 PM

The story I read somewhere about W.C.Fields (a life long Atheist) was that a friend found him leafing through the Bible.
When asked what he was doing, he replied, "I'm looking for a loophole."
Now you've got to imagine just how he would have said that to get the full picture!


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: MudGuard
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 02:28 AM

The "Obit" has been removed from the English wikipedia page. It never appeared on the German page.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: patriot1314
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 08:17 AM

I contacted Sean Cannon last night, his reaction was "I'm sure someone would have told me"


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,Bardan
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 09:46 PM

The best story like that I heard was apparently one of the goons tombstones says "I told you I was ill".


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 09:55 PM

Spike Milligan ! But its in Gaelic !


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Songster Bob
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 11:33 PM

Spike Milligan -- did he die of anything serious?

Bob


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 26 Mar 07 - 11:52 PM

Vandals do put crap like this on wikipedia, but it is just as easy to take it down. If you see an unsourced announcement of death - fix it. Yiyu can also semi-protect a page to make sure that accounts not older than 3 days cannot edit it.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST,Lighter under an assumed name
Date: 01 Apr 07 - 05:30 PM

Trust *nothing* on Wikipedia unless you can verify it. *Nothing.* You'd be surprised at the number of "people" who think it's a riot to mess with the articles. Though they do their best, those who monitor the problem have a very hard time correcting the work of the vandals.

Sad but true.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 01 Apr 07 - 09:32 PM

As I have stated before - BE BOLD and fix these things. Wikipedia is better than nothing and can be a very good resource. it's not perfect but recent articles in major newspapers have documented the communities ability to stay more current than major news networks.


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Subject: RE: Ronnie Drew Wikipedia page - Obit?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 11:02 AM

I have spoken to his wife and Ronnie's finished his chaemotherapy. He was in hospital after a fall but he's recovering from that as well.


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