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nutty 19 Mar 07 - 10:13 AM
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Subject: £6 well spent
From: nutty
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 10:13 AM

I don't often spend money on CD's but I was at the Darlington Spring Thing at the weekend and came across some sampler CD'S put out by Waterson/Carthy.

I bought the Norma Waterson Definitive Collection although I intend to follow it with Martin's and Eliza's.

I have just finished listening to it --- what a joy ... 15 superb tracks and all for £6.

I still have my collection of Topic Samplers from the 70's and look forward to more artists producing CD'S for the pockets of the not so well off.


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Subject: RE: £6 well spent
From: The Sandman
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 02:24 PM

would you be kind enough to tell us the length of playing time of each cd.
15 tracks, probably 55 minutes maximium.


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Subject: RE: £6 well spent
From: nutty
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 02:32 PM

I'm not sure what you are trying to imply Dick. Is it relevant? For me the important thing is the quality of the tracks not the length.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Sandman
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 03:09 PM

I am not implying anything,how many minutes playing time is on the cd.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 03:14 PM

My apologies ... the CD length is 62 minutes 30 seconds.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 03:22 PM

The South American river site flogs these Definitive Collections' for far less than that.
And they practically pay you to take away 'special deals' of buy one and get another for almost zilch.
Very handy for those who don't believe in paying artists a market price for their work.
And wowee, compared to piracy, it's legal.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 03:32 PM

Can you provide a link to that site, please?


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Bainbo
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 03:48 PM

I think the Countess became too used to writing on a site that frowns on advertising :-)

This is the one she means.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 04:05 PM

I had no intention of advertising a site run apparently by greedy warrior women who will rip off artists as soon as look at them.

If, however, you are unable to buy direct from artists or from their own sites and HAVE to use rip-off channels, the least you can do is click through from Mudcat (or even better, from fRoots), who will thus benefit slightly from your transaction without it costing you more.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Tootler
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 04:46 PM

Regardless of what they are charging, they will still have to pay the artists and composers their royalties and as I understand it, these are pretty much fixed.

So how are they ripping the artists off?


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 05:20 PM

Well I looked but I couldn't find Waterson Carthy anywhere or anything cheaper than £6.

I did notice that some folk CD's on offer (Anne Briggs for example) were remastered tracks from vinyl LP's that are no longer generally available.
In such cases they are encouraging people to become familiar with artists who stopped recording many years ago.
The Norma Waterson CD for example has a terrific track of Aint No Man Worth The Salt Of My Tears not previously released.

I really fail to see how the release of such material damages the artists. The Topic Samplers of the past did a similar thing very effectively.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 06:26 PM

THere may very well be (UK) copyright issues about parallel imports - certainly CD-Wow got it in the neck from the courts again last week or the week before.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 09:01 AM

I'm still not sure what all this hostility is about.

There may be other Definitive Collections.

The ones I'm talking about - the Waterson Carthy ones are issued under license by Topic Records so presumably all copyright issues have been dealt with.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Scrump
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 09:16 AM

I had no intention of advertising a site run apparently by greedy warrior women who will rip off artists as soon as look at them.

I can't help wondering, then, why you mentioned them at all :-)

I can't see how Amazon are ripping off the artists unless they are withholding the royalties. Are you suggesting they are doing that?

If you go to your local record shop and pay £10.00 for the same CD that sells for £6.00 on Amazon, you would be deluded if you thought any of the extra £4.00 goes to the artists.

And Captain, I ask since you seemed keen to know - does the CD length meet with your approval?

But, ah, I see it now - a CD can hold up to 80 minutes of music, and this CD only holds 62.5 minutes. Have those b*****ds at Amazon stolen the other 17.5 minutes? :-)

Ye gods, a bloke gives a positive review of a folk CD and gets this!


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: skipy
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 09:23 AM

The way of the cat!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: GMT
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 09:30 AM

Nutty

There Ain't No Sweet Man (Who's Worth The Salt Of My Tears), appears on Norma Watersons self titled album. A wonderful collection of songs with the usual suspects as backup players.

Cheers
Gary


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 09:37 AM

GMT ... IT SAYS THIS ABOUT THE TRACK...............

'A PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED LIVE RECORDING'

I was just quoting what was written.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: JennyO
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 09:37 AM

The way of the cat!

Sadly, sometimes it is - fortunately not often. It looks like nutty has had the misfortune to attract the attention of a few who have their own agenda to push.

Never mind the knockers, nutty - it sounds like you have done well with this CD. Just keep on enjoying it!


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 10:19 AM

Scrump ,I asked a question ,I got an answer.
Why are you trying to involve me in this,I have never mentioned amazon,What the hell are you on about.
I have never knocked anyone.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Jim Lad
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 10:23 AM

Captain Birdseye: What does that translate into Euros? Chill out Bud. You chose your prices for your product. Nobody is making comparisons.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Scrump
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 10:33 AM

Why are you trying to involve me in this,I have never mentioned amazon,What the hell are you on about.
I have never knocked anyone.


There seems to have been a misunderstanding here, for which I apologise, Captain.

I didn't attribute the anti-Amazon remarks to you, only the person I quoted from at the top of my posting. This was countess richard, who I didn't mention by name, which is what seems to have caused the confusion.

However, I did ask whether the length of the CD met with your approval, as you had originally said this:

would you be kind enough to tell us the length of playing time of each cd.
15 tracks, probably 55 minutes maximium.


and the answer you got was "62 minutes 30 seconds", which is longer than your estimated maximum.

Once again, apologies for the confusion caused by not mentioning countess richard's name in my previous post.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 10:49 AM

JIM LAD,what the hell are you on about,Ihave never passed an opinion,I asked a question ,I got my answer,
you chill out,and stop reading things into my posts that are not there.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:01 AM

I didn't make an 'anti' Amazon posting, nor a pro one.

I alluded to the fairly self-evident preferable course of action that CD purchases should be made, whenever possible, from the artists themselves to ensure that the maximum profit goes to them. But if the only way to get the CD you want is via the lengthy river in South America, you could at least do some good by clicking through from this site or fRoots to place your order.

As for buying stuff from cut-price labels, you would imagine that any fule wood no that extreme caution ought to be exercised. I'm not aware of the details of whatever (if any) deal Highpoint has struck with Topic but this thread has alerted me sufficiently to think about asking assorted Carthys, Watersons or Engles next time I see them. Because I can't see how it does the image of their product a lot of good when it's price-slashed like so many cans of baked beans.

Not long ago, people here (and elsewhere) were cock-a-hoop that Five Hand Reel recordings were reissued being on CD. I found it extraordinary how no-one stopped to question the details or to wonder why Dick Gaughan had declined to write the liner notes. Because it was oh so simple. None of the surviving musicians would get a penny out of it.

It never ceases to disappoint me how so many thoughtless people in our so-called community think nothing of paying as little as possible (or preferably nothing) to listen to or watch artists who have, after all, no living expenses like the rest of the population, have they?


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Scrump
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:20 AM

I didn't make an 'anti' Amazon posting, nor a pro one.

Apologies to you too, countess. Assume the word 'anti' should be deleted from my posting. I wrongly inferred from your remarks such as:

Very handy for those who don't believe in paying artists a market price for their work.
And wowee, compared to piracy, it's legal.


and

I had no intention of advertising a site run apparently by greedy warrior women who will rip off artists as soon as look at them.

that you were in some way opposed to them. Clearly from your remark above I was wrong, and I apologise.

But you raise a valid point in your last posting above. I naturally buy CDs from artists at gigs, but if I'm buying a CD otherwise (perhaps of an artist I've never seen), I'm likely to shop around and find the cheapest outlet (we CD buyers are similar to artists in that we too have living expenses), on the grounds that the artist will make as much from any outlet other than themselves, regardless as to how much I pay.

The problem comes when an artist charges £12.99 + £1.50 p&p by mail order, when I can buy the same CD for £6.99 inc p&p online (yes, this is a real and recent example). I've got to really like the artist to buy it direct from them in that case.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:25 AM

It never ceases to disappoint me how so many thoughtless people in our so-called community think nothing of paying as little as possible (or preferably nothing) to listen to or watch artists who have, after all, no living expenses like the rest of the population, have they?

I take it that such remarks are directed at me Countess Richard as I had the temerity to believe that I found a bargain.
However I find your remarks incredibly naive if you think that the Watersons are being ripped off. It is surely in their interest that the general public is made aware of their recordings ... not just the most recent ones but those made since the 70's.

As a student in those days I was very grateful to Topic for producing its Samplers as they were tailored to the money I had to spare. As a pensioner now I feel exactly the same way.

Assuming that the artists are getting their proper royalties (and I'm sure if there was a problem we would have heard of it by now) then I can't see that it matters how much a CD costs.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: skipy
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:31 AM

Something in the water today eh!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:37 AM

As you very well know, Scrump, I was referring in generality to ANYONE lacking in scruples in how and from where they extract their 'entertainment' by whatever means and by shelling out as little as possible. And if you examine Amazon pricing and 'special offers' (special for whom?) it is immediately apparent that in some cases they are not covering costs even taking into account the tiny margin (in comparison to what they get when handling marketing and distribution themselves) which the artist receives. So who pays, when as sure as hell it won't be the entrepreneur? It is surely preferable to pay the market price directly to the artist.

I think I know exactly which example you are quoting. I saw it myself on a site with a dog and gramophone. And yes, I got mine direct from the artist and I hope you did too.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Jim Lad
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:55 AM

Well we're all in fine form this morning, aren't we?
Let's start again.
Nutty: You say "Subject: £6 well spent
From: nutty - PM
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 10:13 AM

I don't often spend money on CD's but I was at the Darlington Spring Thing at the weekend and came across some sampler CD'S put out by Waterson/Carthy.

I bought the Norma Waterson Definitive Collection although I intend to follow it with Martin's and Eliza's.

I have just finished listening to it --- what a joy ... 15 superb tracks and all for £6.

I still have my collection of Topic Samplers from the 70's and look forward to more artists producing CD'S for the pockets of the not so well off."
And I say "Great! Good for you"
Next........


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 12:00 PM

Thanks Jim .... isn't it amazing how the most innocuous of threads can be hijacked for political purposes.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Jim Lad
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 12:07 PM

Guilty, Your Honour!
"Good Morning all" from The Sunny, Cool, Windy Highlands of Victoria on this, The First Day of Spring. (I think)


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Scrump
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 12:13 PM

Countess, I take your point, but I think it's unrealistic to expect most people to pay more than they have to for CDs. Consumers will just find the best price for them, and won't consider the point you make, i.e. the artist will get more money if you buy from them direct.

Maybe you, and occasionally I, will buy CDs that way, if it's an artist we like and would like to help further. But you can't expect most people to even think of that aspect.

Besides, if an artist isn't happy for the likes of Amazon or HMV to sell their CDs, maybe they should not allow these outlets to sell them, and only sell them from their own website or at gigs.

Anyway, nutty, glad you enjoyed the CD and I hope you won't let the guilt of getting such a bargain spoil your enjoyment :-)


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Jim Lad
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 12:17 PM

Ooh Scrump! Give a wee twist eh?
Good morning
From
Jim.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 12:33 PM

I won't Scrump and I still intend acquiring the Definitive Collections of Martin and Eliza's work.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 12:42 PM

Nutty - it sounds as if you did well with the CD. You must be even more determined to get the other Definitive Collections now!


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 01:21 PM

As a matter of interest I thought I would look on the Waterson/Carthy official website and found that the Definitive Collections were not only there but had actually been produced in 2003.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: synbyn
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 02:26 PM

As to the length, personally I found LPs pretty good, in that my concentration begins to wane after about 20 minutes... and actually I find the length of CDs a barrier to appreciation of some artistes whose treatment of their raw material is broadly similar. But then I'm a product of the generation which lacks...er...


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 04:02 AM

G'day synbyn,

I think you have touched on a good and valid point ... admittedly, one dear to my own heart. In these days of mind-bogglingly vast collections of "downloaded" music all living in a small, off-whitish tablet with some sort of minimalist control knobs and bars - I'm assailed by people who can't comprehend that I don't want to plug into a seamless stream of aural wallpaper.

I try to explain that a skillfully laid out set of songs ... perhaps the recording of a well constructed concert bracket - or the definitive songs of an historical event or cause ... is far more than the sum of its parts. The two sides of an LP - separated by, at least, the time it takes to flip the record and drop the needle - could constitute a perfect 'dose' of the music of one subject ... event ... group ... whatever. Adding everything else they ever recorded (let alone everything anyone else has recorded, in the same broad slot of the download site) only subtracts from what may have been perfection.

All this apart from trying to explain that the music percolating in my brain, of its own accord, is just as interesting ... perhaps more germane to my next gig ... and far better for my soul! It's nice to have "Definitive Collections" - if only for complete reference - but the "ideal" length, for me, to listen to one group or subject, is often much less than can be shoehorned onto a CD ... and I admire artists who have the guts to issue CDs that are the right length for the songs or subject ... not counted our like so many of Birdseye's Frozen Peas!

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 04:40 AM

when I listen to cds, I very rarely listen to the cd all in one take,but click on to a particular track,this is physically much easier,than doing so with vinyl lps.[where if you are not careful you can damage the vinyl]
Bob Bolton the right length for the subject, is a subjective judgement,what you might think right,another person might not.
   whats all this stupid stuff about frozen peas.,most people look at how many tracks are on a cd before they buy them,as well as what the tracks are.
I asked the question originally,because there is a difference between 30 minutes of playing time and 60,in my opinion something thats fifteen or thirty minutes long,should not be the same price as something that is sixty two minutes long.
Yes Nutty appears to have a bargain,.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 05:20 AM

G'day Cap'n,

The reference was to illustrate the "never mind the quality - feel the width" mentality that demands a well-formed opus to be padded out to assuage the hollow feelings engendered by any unused space on the media ... frequently to the detriment of the work. I needed an example of easily counted items of minimal value ... and frozen peas popped into my mind.

Birdseye brand got a guernsey for its folk music connection: My black and white memories of early TV (here in Australia) were frequently punctuated by the advertising jingle chanting:
"Goodness how delicious - eating Birdseye peas! (&c ... ad libitum ... or nauseam)".

It was, of course, many years before I recognised this as a parody of the American Civil War Confederate soldiers' song Goober Peas - "celebrating" what was said to be the decision Confederate Supply Minister - Mr Goober - to supply peanuts as vegetables, to replace the unavailable standard legumes! (BTW: like much in folklore, perusal of the OED's citations show that the term was in used decades before this story is set!) However, I did throw it in to keep some sort of folk song link alive.

Anyway ... I did note that "Definitive Collections" were very useful 'references' - unfortunately, they are not so often a good listen... or value... as the work that finds its "right" length.

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 07:16 AM

Here is a link to the latest CD-WOW case judgment, for those who are interested in the legalities of importation into the EEA.

a href="http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2007/533.html&query=title+(+Independiente+)&method=boolean">Judgement


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Scrump
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 07:19 AM

I haven't looked at the track listing for the Waterson-Carthy and related "Definitive Collection" CDs, but it sounds as if they are good.

But if I see a CD with such a title as "Definitive Collection", I'm usually suspicious that it will be anything but that, especially if it's a budget priced CD.

It's like those cheapo pop/rock CDs that claim to be "The Best of..." or "X's Greatest Hits". You often find with cheap (budget priced) CDs that they might have a few tracks from what is generally considered the 'best' of that artist's work, and the rest a lot of inconsequential filler material. I'm not saying that in this case, but this is a general comment on budget priced CDs.

Worse than that, especially in the pop and rock genres (or soul, easy listening and other popular non-folk music for that matter), you get a lot of cheap CDs with re-recordings, or inferior live recordings. In folk this shouldn't be such a problem, because folk musicians are generally able to reproduce fairly faithfully live what appears on their studio recordings. Not so for most pop and rock artists, though.

But I have managed to get a few bargains myself in the past, in folk music CDs as well as pop/rock or other genres. You just have to be careful to read the small print (if the CD has any on the back cover), before you buy.

Are these "Definitive Collection" CDs available for other artists than those mentioned above?


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Subject: RE: �6 (pounds) well spent
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 07:44 AM

Richard (Bridge, not Countess) - I couldn't get that link to work, and I wanna KNOW. Can you do us a clickie or re-type it or something? Thanks!


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Subject: RE: �6 (pounds) well spent
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 07:46 AM

Or maybe start a new thread with it? Sounds worth scrutinising -


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 08:16 AM

try this Bonnie

Judgement


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 10:24 AM

Funny, that was made with the blickifier - or at least I thought it was...


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: synbyn
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 10:41 AM

Morning, Bob!

Couldn't agree more- the Cap'n has a point re access to the tracks, certainly much easier than LP or tape, and we can all now build up compilations of our favourites and cut out the fillers... it's not the artists that I think are to blame, often they don't seem to have much control over what goes out, especially when the back catalogue is raided.. imho I enjoy the careful placing of songs to build a whole performance over shoehorning. I think of Packie Byrne, if that's how you spell him, who is a master at accentuating the tougher songs by giving his audience a cheerful ditty first... much more powerful than battering the audience over the head...

and then there's the issue of 'warmer' sound on analogue recordings...

and yes, countess, I do believe in where possible cutting out the middle man, because again imho that's where things often go agly...
not so much nowadays where the artist can go indie, but for those whose best work is locked up in a vault somewhere... with a Gollum...
Some of the best is still missing...

yan tan tantethra...


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Scrump
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 11:00 AM

when I listen to cds, I very rarely listen to the cd all in one take,but click on to a particular track,this is physically much easier,than doing so with vinyl lps.[where if you are not careful you can damage the vinyl]

Very true Cap'n, especially if you have had a few pints :-)

...most people look at how many tracks are on a cd before they buy them,as well as what the tracks are.

True. It's worth also looking at the track lengths, if they are printed on the cover, because sometimes a seemingly short CD in terms of number of tracks can in fact be fairly long in minutes. An example of course would be a classical CD containing two symphonies, that may consist of 8 tracks but can almost fill the CD to capacity; or a CD containing two Goon Shows, which may be half an hour in length each.


I asked the question originally,because there is a difference between 30 minutes of playing time and 60,in my opinion something thats fifteen or thirty minutes long,should not be the same price as something that is sixty two minutes long.
Yes Nutty appears to have a bargain,.


An interesting point. It's certainly true that some CDs of popular music contain not much more than half an hour's worth of material, which is poor value in terms of length alone (although as has been pointed out by others, the quality is more important to many of us than the length).

But with the advent of MP3 downloading, it seems we are now able to download each individual track, and can pick and choose what we pay for, rather than buy a whole album with someone else's idea of a good selection. So on average, we will be closer to paying by the minute than we are at present. Who knows, some enterprising online retailer might do just that, and charge per minute or second of downloaded music.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: Jim Lad
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 01:34 PM

Nice return, Captain Birdseye.


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: nutty
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM

Scrump .... Definitive Collections by the bucket full here ... not all of them cheap but all interesting.

CLICK


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Subject: RE: £6 (pounds) well spent
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 02:17 PM

my cds work out at 12 sterling,but since I am not able to charge the same appearance fees for gigs as Martin and Norma,I am not in a financial position to reduce them.http://www.dickmiles.com


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