Mudcat Café message #962278 The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #59921   Message #962278
Posted By: John Hardly
30-May-03 - 08:07 PM
Thread Name: BS: Conservative, Liberal, or Human Being?
Subject: RE: BS: Conservative, Liberal, or Human Being?
Great discussion guys. Glad to see it -- and I learn... Slowly, but I learn. I'll always wonder what practical solutions could or would have arisen with politics out of the way -- but, of course, that is naive. Politics we'll always have with us.

I do think there is a value in defining the sides -- not because we must (or anyone does) fit into one stereotype or the other, rather, because the extremes are representitve of philosophical underpinnings that I think are worth understanding -- and dividing, for yourself, the wheat from the chaf. I understand others don't see it that way.

I'm glad to see such a good discussion evolve out of this. I PM'd Strick because I couldn't quite make out the finer points of Fred's part of the discussion(yes, I'm that dense!), and I thought his economics background could help me sort it out.

What I didn't say, that Fred was aware of, was that I wrote my essay in two parts. The "conservative" side I wrote in answer to a question here as to what one was. that discussion led me to raise the challenge (nobody took me up on this challenge)to try to explain what the other side believes in such a manner that they would not take issue with it. I made the attempt with the "liberal" part of my essay, but back then I decided not to post it. I don't spend that much time here anymore and when I do I really didn't like the growing feeling that I was spending (wasting) more time "below the line" when my major interest here is in music. Also the mudcat was going through a particularly toxic stretch and, though I thought my attempt a pretty successful attempt at writing something non-inflamatory, at that point EVERYTHING seemed inflammatory on the mudcat. Thus, I filed the essay. Lately I've taken a more "what the hell" attitude and figger if I'm civil that's all I can be expected to control here.

Anyway, there it is. Glad I posted it and got to watch two civil gentlemen have a good discussion. I learned from and enjoyed it.