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Thread #59921   Message #958828
Posted By: toadfrog
24-May-03 - 06:04 PM
Thread Name: BS: Conservative, Liberal, or Human Being?
Subject: RE: BS: Conservative, Liberal, or Human Being?
Well, Mr. Hardly, the original question was pretty bad. But what else is there to say about Rush Limbaugh? Or George Bush?

As I think Mary says, it is altogether possible to imagine a country that is too "liberal," and where the vices of "liberals" are pushed to an altogether unreasonable point. It looked in the 1960's like that might possibly happen. But today, "conservatism" is a misnomer. There just aren't any conservatives. This is true because conservatism already triumphed. Bush, Ashcroft and Rumsfeld are not "conservatives." They are not entitled to wear that honorable name. They are not interested in conserving old values. They are only destroyers. Their only principle is that the rich should have more money. Neither is Rush Limbaugh. He basically panders to people who don't care whether the rich get richer, as long as the poor, and especially the N===='s, are really made to suffer.

And the problem with liberals is not that they put too much faith in government. They are altogether too hostile to government, as are the conservatives. Although I probably differ with Mary Garvey on a lot of things, she is right about one thing. America is choking to death on an excess of libertarianism. With everyone insisting on their freedom to do whatever they want, regardless of the consequences. And that shortcoming is common to "liberals" and "conservatives" alike.