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Thread #49001   Message #740053
Posted By: sian, west wales
01-Jul-02 - 06:10 AM
Thread Name: Help: Translation needed: Can y melinydd
Subject: RE: Help: Translation needed: 'Can y melinydd'
MM, you should get hold of a copy of Blodau'r Grug: 100 Popular Welsh Folk Dance Tunes. From what I see at Amazon and elsewhere, it is 'currently unavailable' but I think that a lot of Welsh book shops still have copies about. Try Siop y Werin (Hope the clicky works!) if you want one. I gave a N.Irish co-worker a copy and she thought it was great!

There are a lot of Welsh songs and tunes at this site but there seem to be a number of typos in the texts, and some of the arrangements, although lovely, tend to obscure the tune - not great if you're new to them. Also, the timing is off in some. And I can't figure out why "Silver Threads Among the Gold" and "Nearer my God to Thee" are included! But still, an impressive collection. Check out "Pan gyfyd yr heulwen", "Merch Megan", "Mi dderbyniais bwt o lythyr" and "O gwrandaw, y beraidd fwyalchen" ... all of which I quite like.

Re: ciarili's points, I don't disagree that someone with a fine ear and experience of languages can deliver a song in a language which they don't understand, but they are few and far between. I also wouldn't be 100 per cent confident in learning from books and records. There are some people recording these days who promote themselves as 'Welsh' singers but who are either learners or have learned songs parrot-fashion ... and I can't for the life of me work out what they're singing. And sometimes I even know the songs! I don't suppose you really want to get into this seriously but... there are lots of Welsh classes around, on both sides of the Atlantic, and lots of individuals who will coach on pronunciation. I have a friend in Oregon who will be competing in the Folk Song Category at this year's National Eisteddfod, and she's worked on her pronunciation by weekly phone calls to a friend here in Wales. So ... it can be done, but takes more commitment than some singers are willing to undertake.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy your playing and the above sites are of some use!

sian