Last time I saw Brenda was a few years back at a Ralph McTell gig in Penzance. She got up with Ralph to do a join in and see what happens with us. Ralph's guitar amp. packed up and he was making frantic hand signals to his techy - to no avail. As to pasties - best I have ever come across are to be had in Hayle.I recall singing in the club in Devonport in the late 60's and him sing the Oggie Man. Malcolm's desc. is quite right - the arrival of larger atands gave rise to the eventual Ivor Dewdney pasty firm. Thsy say things don;t change for the better and ID pasties are living proof. Good to hear Cyril is still singing - we are all getting weathered a bit now but carry good memories.