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Thread #32497   Message #427477
Posted By: Vixen
28-Mar-01 - 10:10 AM
Thread Name: 'Hole in the Ground' question
Subject: 'Hole in the Ground' question
D'Cats--

My partner Tim and I have been doing a kiddie song called "Hole in the Ground." It's one of those songs like "Hole in the Bottom of the Sea" and "I Know an Old Lady who Swallowed a Fly".

"Once there was hole
I said there was a hole
Deepest hole
That you ever did see

Oh the hole in the ground and the green grass grows
all around and around and the green grass grows all around

Well in that hole
Was some Dirt
Richest Dirt
That you ever did see

Oh the dirt in the hole
and the hole in the ground
and the green grass grows all around and around
and the green grass grows all around
"

You get the idea, I'm sure....

Anyway, my first question is, WHO WROTE THIS SONG??? If possible, I'd like to know who wrote the lyrics and who wrote the tune...It's not in the digitrad, at least not as "Hole in the Ground," so I'm assuming it's got somebody's copyright on it.

I'd like to know, because we take all sorts of fun liberties with the song (for example, we played a gig at Big Bird's house, and put Big Bird in the egg in the nest on the branch on the limb on the tree on the roots in the dirt in the hole in the ground...

Which leads me to my second question...when does a song cross over from a "composed work" with copyright to a "folk process" song where people have added and changed and otherwise modified a piece beyond its original form and content?

As always, I eagerly await your input!

V