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Posted By: Jim Carroll
20-Nov-19 - 11:25 AM
Thread Name: The current state of folk music in UK
Subject: RE: The current state of folk music in UK
My point Jack was that MacColl was far more sinned against than sinner
If he had behaved towards others half as badly as people are still behaving towards him, three decades after his death he world have desreved everything he got and more
If you think the Mudcaters "cunt" joke is acceptable your attitude towards how to respect your fellow folk enthusiasts is far different that mine

MacColl and Seeger devoted a great deal of their lives to helping the revival progress, passing on their collected material, working with less experienced singers, researching traditional material and sharing it...
Having attended their club from the late sixties to when it closed, I came to the conclusion that MacColl's 'poor' reputation was based his practice of, when he was asked his opinion on the singing of floor-singers, he gave it rather than saying when they wanted him to say - usually, that it was the best he'd ever come across since sliced bread'   
He ws an experienced and thoughtful singer (whether you liked his singing or not, and the research he and the Group carried out during its the ten yours life remains unsurpassed
He offered praise where he believed it was due and he offered advice
This doesn't go down well with a folk revival that believes itself above criticism
I felt it a privilege to work with good singers who were interested in my singing enough to offer assistance - most singers on the scene I knew adopted the Garbo "I vant to be alone" approach
That's why the standards declined and the performances fell below an acceptable public level - in m opinion -- of course
Jim Carroll