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Thread #165570   Message #4016295
Posted By: Steve Shaw
31-Oct-19 - 05:37 AM
Thread Name: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
"Steve Shaw wrote: Brexiteers are ultra-tribalists. They IGNORE the sixteen-plus million who voted remain"

"And Remainers? They ignore 17.4 million who voted leave."

This is completely skewed. We can't "ignore" the 17 million, because they are getting their way. What they decided impacts leavers and remainers equally. We challenge the referendum result because we see it as illegitimate. We make the argument that the question asked was way too simplistic with regard to the sheer complexity of the issue. We contend that the successful leave campaign was predicated on xenophobia, even using racist material at times, and was essentially a pack of lies and propaganda intended to deceive the large numbers of the electorate who have a tangential transaction only with politics and who are thereby vulnerable to that propagandising. I hasten to add that I don't defend the remain campaign in the slightest, a point which actually reinforces my contention that the referendum was illegitimate. On the other hand, remainers have been told, including on a number of occasions here, that we lost, even that we're losers, our desire to remain will be completely ignored and that we should get over it. I could predict that this post will provoke that response yet again. Losers are easy to ignore. Winners impose their will on winners and losers equally and can't be ignored.