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Posted By: Stanron
26-Jul-19 - 10:26 AM
Thread Name: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
Jim Carroll wrote: "The EU has said it will not negotiate"
The EU has already negotiated and Britain has rejected what it has come up with
Britain represents its own opinions (it's a moot point whether they are in Briain's interests) which, is some cases, adversely affects those of other countries - Ireland being the most obvious.
The consequences of a wrong decision should be obvious to all, yet Johnson declares that the backstop has to go
That is not negotiable
A call for leaving Europe, given the facts that are now available, is mindless nationalism with deadly consequences
You are the last person to be in the position to accuse others of refusing to negotiate Stanron
When have you ever been prepared to even discuss your own pronouncements - not in my recollection
JIm Carroll
It could be argued that the EU has never negotiated. The leaving arrangement has been rejected by Parliament three times. Each time the reason given was the backstop. Each time the EU refused to renegotiate. It still says it will not renegotiate. I think it is fair to say they will not, in the future, renegotiate.

As for 'mindless nationalism', a standard accusation of the communist theology as I recall, you might be in trouble there because the EU sees itself as becoming one nation. Then what will you do?