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Posted By: Nigel Parsons
06-Jun-19 - 05:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
Subject: RE: BS: Brexit #3: A futile gesture?
I'm only quoting the full post to make clear what I'm replying to:
It's been quite a long time now, and no comments on the idea that the NHS should be part of a trade deal with the NHS (and yes, I know Trump said two completely different things an hour apart. SO he could switch back to his original statement equally easily.)
Of course, the NHS is not a single thing: it would be possible to have say the mechanisms of NHS drug purchasing - which the US hate - part of the deal but not something else.
So imagine the US decides to play hard-ball. Their stance is (some aspects of the) NHS is part of the deal, or there is no deal at all.
Forget what any of the politicians say. What do our resident Brexiteers say?


The fact that some aspect of the NHS is on the table as part of the deal does not mean that anything involving the NHS will be part of a final deal.

On the table seems to be a widely misunderstood idea.

Brexit negotiations need to keep "No Deal" on the table. It doesn't mean it will be part of the final decision, but if it is not kept on the table, then it is not available as a fall back position if all we are offered is a poor deal.
Similarly, keeping NHS on the table does not mean that we are surrendering the option not to make it part of any deal.

So having the NHS on the table is not the same as saying it will be part of any trade deal. It is just keeping all options open during the opening of any negotiations.

Hopefully any negotiations would not be handled by someone with the lack of business acumen of Theresa May, who seemed to think that you open negotiations by making all possible concessions, and then expect to still have something to negotiate with.