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Thread #160019   Message #3794060
Posted By: Howard Jones
06-Jun-16 - 06:16 AM
Thread Name: BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit
Subject: RE: BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit
I am genuinely undecided. My instinct is to Remain. I voted to join the Common Market, and I think the economic arguments for doing so still stand. The freedom and flexibility to live and work anywhere offer greater opportunities, although personally I have have no plans to take advantage of them. My children might though.

EU has created relationships and a shared mutual interest between countries which were traditionally hostile to one another. It is now unthinkable that those countries could go to war again. It is easy for those of us who grew up after the War to take this for granted, but history shows it is not inevitable. Of course, the UK leaving the EU would not mean that it falls apart, but it would be a destabilising influence ata time when the EU is under a number of pressures, from Greece's problems to the influx of refugees. So I don't think it would be good for us to do anything which could make things worse.

On the other hand, I identify as British rather than European. As an institution, the EU is dysfunctional and the ruling bureaucracy appears to be pursuing its own agenda rather than following the direction of the elected governments and the European Parliament. Closer co-operation is one thing, but I don't believe a European state is achievable or desirable - we are all too different, with different languages, cultures and outlooks, to be forced into a one-size-fits-all state.

I can see the arguments on both sides. What does infuriate me is the timing of this - there is no particular reason to raise this now, the timing is entirely due to Cameron's wish to neuter sections of his own party. If it blows up in his face and the vote is to leave, we face considerable uncertainty and short-term pain - whether there will be long-term gains is anyone's guess. If the vote is to remain, it will make it much harder to revisit the question if an issue should arise with the EU that really should make us think again.