Mudcat Café message #3781228 The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #159479   Message #3781228
Posted By: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
25-Mar-16 - 05:33 PM
Thread Name: BS: I Love this Idea
Subject: RE: BS: I Love this Idea
This post is mostly aimed at Donuel, because a couple of reasons.

First, It seems apparent that his musicality, is a bit more 'depthy', and serious, than the run of the mill trolls, who just want to spout and argue unlearned 'opinions'.

Second, Because his reply back to me showed more of an openness, to 'consideration'.

Third, because in his reply, he included this: "Predictions have to be based on existing knowledge. The people who make such leaps be it a Jules Verne or Albert Einstein do admit they saw a validity not based on facts alone but as though knowledge was captured in the wind."....

...and being as you termed it, in that manner, and are a musician of deeper understanding, I give you this(which I've posted several times in Mudcat, but nobody seems to get it)....

Ludwig van Beethoven: "The vibrations on the air are the breath of God speaking to man's soul. Music is the language of God. We musicians are as close to God as man can be. We hear his voice, we read his lips, we give birth to the children of God, who sing his praise. That's what musicians are."

"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. Music is the electrical soil in which the spirit lives, thinks and invents."
― Ludwig van Beethoven

"Music is the one incorporeal entrance into the higher world of knowledge which comprehends mankind but which mankind cannot comprehend."
― Ludwig van Beethoven

"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
― Ludwig van Beethoven

"Don't only practice your art, but force your way into its secrets, for it and knowledge can raise men to the divine."
― Ludwig van Beethoven

"My misfortune is doubly painful to me because I am bound to be misunderstood; for me there can be no relaxation with my fellow-men, no refined conversations, no mutual exchange of ideas, I must live alone like someone who has been banished."
― Ludwig van Beethoven

"Music is the mediator between
the spiritual and the sensual life."
― Ludwig van Beethoven

That all being said,....(or quoted)...YOU might have a different perception, of what is considered to be (quoting Ludwig), 'divine' 'Spiritual', 'ideas', 'higher revelations',...and even 'God'...

Unfortunately, when this subject is brought up, those with a limited capacity to understand, cannot differentiate between a 'God force', and a 'religion'..being as their only point of reference, is what has been handed down, and rebelled against, when the Roman Empire, co-opted their government, and 'pagan rituals' and idols, with their interpretations(out of convenience), with an encroaching, popular, power called Christianity...that was threatening their ideology.

So, with that in mind, AND distancing the subject AWAY from 'religion', this may interest(even fascinate)you....

'Good' IDEA.....'Logos'(Greek)...Word used only one time, in the Bible

...and after this one I've got another link,(video), that may be of interest and consideration to you.

Anybody is welcome, but I'm not into entering a banal argument will small minded, emotionally disturbed, troll-like creatures.