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Posted By: GUEST,Allan Conn
17-Jun-14 - 06:15 PM
Thread Name: BS: World Cup
Subject: RE: BS: World Cup
Some people do support all the Home Teams Stu. Many don't. Plenty instances of it like the old England song sung on the terraces to the tune of thet Monkees' song "Poor old Craigie Brown...oh what can it mean....for a sad Scottish bastard and a crap football team". Likewise when I returned from Spain 82 all you heard on the TV re the fans was "Bonnie bonnie Scotland...what's it liek to be back home". Euro 96 when the parachutes came down in Wembley with country's flags only 2 got booed. Germany and Scotland. The idea that everyone in England supports Scotland is a non-starter. And to tell you the truth who cares? We have 5 million fans we don't need any more.

The change has been in England itself. In the last few decades there seems to have been a real drop in confidence. In the 60s and 70s they knew Scots wanted them beat (and of course you could swap Scots for Welsh or Irish) and they laughed it off. It was taken as the daft sport's rivalry that it was. Denis Law felt no qualms about going on Parkinson and saying he had to play golf in 1966 when England were playing Germany because he couldn't bare to watch in case they won. Everyone just laughed and of course a few of the England team were his mates. Likewise the likes of Alan Ball and Mick Channon made it clear how much they loved and needed to beat Scotland. Not many in Scotland thought any worse of them. It is sport and they are the oldest sporting rivalry in the football world. I think it has been lost a bit in England now as Scotland have slid down the rankings, the yearly fixture has long ended, and Germany and Argentina have overtaken Scotland as the teams the English love to beat. England remains the hate team for Scots though. Probably the being in bed with an elephant thing. It may be silly but it is sport. Just a game and not politics or racism. It'd be like saying Man City fans are anti Manchester because they want Man Utd beaten.