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Thread #154579   Message #3627599
Posted By: Stu
22-May-14 - 03:49 AM
Thread Name: BS: Whither now England?
Subject: RE: BS: Whither now England?
" Surely it would be in everyone's interests to continue the monetary status quo, to facilitate the trade which is certain to still go on after independence is secured?"

Scotland won't be truly independent without its own currency. By hanging on to the pound she will still be at the mercy to the Bank of England which will inevitably lead to cries of victimisation and foul play (perhaps justified) but even were it totally above board it will lead to resentment and continuing, festering hatred of the English.

It'll be tough, but Scotland needs to get shot of sterling to be truly independent.


"Also, you need the right to bear arms. Your "excellencies" will continue to crap on you as long as they have nothing to fear."

On dear. Did you not read my original post? You won't get anything done with guns, and we don't want them (in fact, we want less). Elizabeth Fry didn't need them, neither did Winstanley or Turing. The Rochdale Pioneers weren't tooled up. Time for you to read some English social history.

Anyhow, all the guns in the US don't stop the government spying on every move of their own people, and there's not a damn thing they can do about it. Guns are there to comfort cowed, powerless, deluded and frightened people (some of whom who inevitably, end up slaughtering innocents). And farmers.

Nope, despite the excesses of our ruling classes ordinary English folk can organise themselves and effect profound social change. The dominance of UKIP and the rightward shift of all mainstream parties is of concern because the answer to our problems isn't a blanket 33% income tax, total privatisation of the NHS and the further demonisation of minorities, who are no more than scapegoats for government incompetence.

We can do better. We can be progressive and I firmly believe we are, as a people of the home nations (including England) naturally compassionate, humane and care deeply about protecting the vulnerable in our society.

We need to shake off the shackles of this monarchist/oligarchical political climate and move towards a to more forward-thinking, long-term and socially compassionate economic system that sees people as living beings, not just numbers.