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Thread #149850   Message #3490585
Posted By: Joe Offer
15-Mar-13 - 03:55 AM
Thread Name: BS: Catholic religion response to 'today'
Subject: RE: BS: Catholic religion response to 'today'
In the oft-neglected Original Post, gnu asks, "Why does anyone get pissy about the fact that the Cat'lic church is at least 70 years behind "the times" with regard to SOME issues? Isn't it NOT rocket science?"

Well, I get pissy about it all the time. I hold to the general compendium of Catholic teaching; but I think the Catholic Church is wrong in its teaching about homosexuality, contraception, and ordination of women and married people. I think the child molestation scandal is good evidence that the authorities of the Catholic Church do not have enough expertise in sexual matters to be able to give credible directives on matters of sex.

I agree with the Catholic Church that abortion is the taking of a human life, but I think it needs to approach this issue with far more compassion and understanding. I also think that if the Catholic Church would ally itself with Planned Parenthood and promote birth control, it could make a dramatic reduction in the number of abortions that take place.

But they haven't asked my opinion lately, and they're not likely to change theirs in the foreseeable future. So, on these matters, I listen to my conscience and wait for the day when the Powers That Be are enlightened.

Oh....one other thing: Ed T questions my statement about laicization. I said, "It's like saying a plumber is no longer a plumber, because he has committed a crime." Ed wonders why the Catholic Church can't decertify a priest in that manner. Ordination to the priesthood involves reception of a sacrament. Once a sacrament is bestowed, it cannot be taken away. It just doesn't work that way. Laicization is not ordinarily done as a punitive measure, although it can be granted to men who have resigned from the priesthood and want to get married. What is supposed to happen, is that a priest who commits a heinous crime like child molestation is supposed to have his faculties (his license to function as a priest) taken away. If a priest does not have "faculties," he does not have permission to function as a priest, anywhere in the world. But some of the organizations began to demand laicization of child molester priests, and now it is done in certain cases.

I don't mean to be condescending if I ask what a person knows about the teachings Catholic Church if he/she has not been inside a church for twenty years, or has not had significant Catholic religious education as an adult. It's true, though. If what you know about Catholic teaching is from the newspaper or from what you learned as a kid in catechism class, you really don't know. Trouble is, most adults within the Catholic church have had no adult education about what the Catholic Church teaches, either. It's not all that complicated. Most adults with a college education should be able to understand the Catechism of the Catholic Church quite well. And the official Catholic teaching in the Catechism is far less harsh and far more rational that many of the understandings of Catholic teaching that I see expressed above.

-Joe-