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Thread #146443   Message #3400935
Posted By: GUEST,Tony
06-Sep-12 - 02:51 PM
Thread Name: Free the Pussy Riot Three
Subject: RE: Free the Pussy Riot Three
quote: I think polarising activity can lead to a consolidation of state power...

What about the reverse? Can it lead to anything else? Anything we would want to see? Examples of when it has done that?

You said that's just how dadaists and pranksters are and we can't help it. But the issue isn't whether we should try to stop them. I certainly wouldn't. This thread is about supporting that divisiveness by signing a petition. My choice is not to support it, but instead to ignore it and look for something more positive to support.

You asked what can people do when they've tried normal methods but that doesn't work. Is your answer that they should contribute to the system that makes normal methods not work? That's all that polarizing and dividing the population accomplishes.

My answer is to try to avoid that pitfall, not to participate in things that divide us, and to try to see the other side's point of view and find some common ground on which we can all agree.

Of course, that involves concessions by both sides. And rational dialogue with people whom we disagree with. No one wants to do that. Everyone wants to huddle up with their allies and trash the other side, spewing venomous rage about them like Glenn Beck or ridiculing all that they hold sacred like Bill Maher.

So we keep debating the same issues over and over with no progress, and people who could care less about whether gays marry or whether women abort their own fetuses take advantage of that division to continue rigging the economy and waging wars to consolidate wealth and power.