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Thread #120890   Message #3371913
Posted By: GUEST,Blandiver
04-Jul-12 - 12:16 PM
Thread Name: New Penguin Book of English Folk Song
Subject: RE: New Penguin Book of English Folk Song
the editors seem to have selected a collection of songs that fit pretty neatly into the "entirely useless" 1954 Definition.

These songs exist entirely independently of such prescriptive nonesense and owe their existence to the creative mastery of the working class men & women who made & sang & changed them (or not) in the fluidity of their natural habitat - these masters, as I say, of their vernacular art, like Tommy Armstrong, or James Armstrong or George Bruce Thompson, or the many others who remain, alas, nameless. The uselessness of the 1954 Definition is that it tells us nothing about Folk Song that isn't true of any other musical idiom, without very (Romantic / Idyllic) notions of just what sort of thing a Community might be, or how an 'Oral Tradition' differs from any other sort when all living traditional musical idioms are in a constant state of creative flux. Otherwise, it covers the Victorian tear-jerkers, music hall, 20th century pop songs, & snigger-snogwriter compositions (etc.) just as well as the songs included here.

Jack Blandiver

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