Mudcat Café message #3183350 The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #138735   Message #3183350
Posted By: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
07-Jul-11 - 04:31 PM
Thread Name: Do purists really exist?
Subject: RE: Do purists really exist?
lots of mudcatters have tried to explain what is meant by the heuristic term folk process (not Folk Process) and have given examples of how it works. Those of us who use this term know what we mean we use it. You have chosen repeatedly to muddy the waters with claims that 'all music is traditional'; 'all music is processed', etc., yet you yourself essentially understand what we mean when we use this term:

All is music is traditional - the very term Traditional Music is essentially tautologous. And yes, I understand what YOU mean when you use this term - but I must point out that all music is the consequence of such cultural / musical process, what's so special about folk? The answer is simply one of folk faith. Tell you what, GG - by way of an example, show me one music that ISN'T Traditional.

Muddy the waters? Hell, I'm the one seeking some clarification here.

Can you provide some specific examples? It would be helpful if you could name such a collector and cite his words on the subject.

The very fact that Folk Song is seen as a collective product with the stress on The Anonymous and The Traditional is proof pure of this legacy. The very fact that The Revival has insisted upon a collective Folk Process to validate the authenticity of their desired is another. To reverse the old adage: Folk refuses to see the Trees for the Wood, and what trees it chooses to see are those rare and exalted specimens who are deemed worthy for the purity of the Folk aspects of their repertoirs, not the condition of their musical experience / creativity as a whole.


Can I just say to me Folk is Fun? The old songs, sessions, ballads and all sorts - we have a ball; we talk, we discuss, we play, we get pissed, we do gigs, festivals, we record, we collaborate, we have our Weekly Residency, and I regard discussions like this as all part of that. Folk is a Ball. 35 years and counting...