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Thread #102326   Message #3138349
Posted By: Gibb Sahib
19-Apr-11 - 02:25 PM
Thread Name: Sailors' Songs or Chanties- Songbook Index
Subject: RE: Sailors' Songs or Chanties- Songbook Index
Does anyone here know the exact contents of the 2nd edition of Davis and Tozer's collection?

We know the contents of the first edition, and of the third (added 10 more to the 2nd) and the "Revised" (added an alternate piano arrangement for "A Roving").

If no one knows, then I am going to do some text analysis and try to figure it out.

My interest is in knowing what versions of the text would have been available to other authors at various times. The writer Lubbock, for example, borrows some chanties (without credit, I believe) from Davis/Tozer for his 1902 book. Those chanties were not in D/T's first edition, and if the 3rd did not come out until 1906, they must have been in the 2nd edition. That D/T took the chanties from Lubbock is unlikely, I think.

I hope is that in nailing down the form of the 2nd edition, we can see the direction of influence easier. Especially since D/T tended to rewrite all the texts they collected, thereby obscuring their origins.

D/T was hugely influential on other writers of the time. And other writers repeating the same texts seems to have created a false consensus that their lyrics were authentic. I think that Stan Hugill was later "fooled" by this false consensus, and in adopting these lyrics into his own collection, they have received yet another stamp of authenticity.