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Thread #131989   Message #2983092
Posted By: Jack the Sailor
09-Sep-10 - 10:13 AM
Thread Name: BS: Burning Korans
Subject: RE: BS: Burning Korans
I find myself having to publicly disagree with my good friend Kendall.

I see a lot of good in religion. The teachings of Jesus, Budda, Mohommed and so many others have done much to decrease violence and chaos in the world.

As for this particular instance. I am speaking as a Christian in America, If we were to follow Jesus' advice on this matter, to turn the other cheek; and more importantly in the case of the Manhattan Mosque, to follow his commandment and love our enemy and, again, more importantly our neighbors as our selves, we would be making our best effort for world peace and doing what is best for our country.

Bobert,

Need I point out that the lack of response from Billy Graham is mostly likely due to the fact that he has been dead for quite some time. I'd also like to point out that he, when he was alive and Mr. Stanley now are people who try to live the WORD.

Jesus, said something that translates in my mind as 'cast the log out of your own eye before you point out the mote in another person's eye.' As he often did, Jesus was using exaggeration and vivid imagery to make his point. His point is that it is unbecoming and often hypocritical for a Christian to criticize. Judge not lest you be judged was another way he put it.

Mr's Graham and Stanley have said plenty to give any serious follower of theirs a clear idea that the Koran burning is wrong. But being men who were/are seriously trying to follow in the footsteps of Jesus, open condemnation of another is not a tactic which is open to them.

Bruce had made the point that both the Koran burning and the building of the Mosque are legal but in his view wrong. I think that the underlying evil in both cases is on the same side and stems from the same source. It is the fallacy that the sins of 19 hijackers can be blamed on all Muslims.

Did the early Christians blame all Romans for their persecutions and call on God to avenge them then fight with the sword? Peter tried that. What did Jesus do? The Christian way, the true Christian way is to meet the violence with love and to martyr ones self if necessary.

Belonging to today's Church is very easy. You can have a three car garage, a beach house, an RV and 12 guitars and be a member in good standing. You can vote Republican have someone else's 20 year old child fight wars that you support in exchange for their only true hope at an education.

But Jesus said it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into Heaven.

Does your Pastor know where you are bound to end up if you follow your present course? Is he telling you that 10% plus a side donation for the building fund is all that is required? Is he a rich man too?

Tea Party Christians say that the country is going down hill due to an erosion of Christian values. I couldn't agree more.