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Thread #131989   Message #2982473
Posted By: Little Hawk
08-Sep-10 - 01:43 PM
Thread Name: BS: Burning Korans
Subject: RE: BS: Burning Korans
That's right, Tunesmith. We can't confirm ANY kind of inner event (by "inner", I mean something that occurs but does not have measurable, observable phenomena that someone else can see or measure). We can only confirm outer events which yield data.

This does not mean that inner events aren't real, however. I have just had a whole series of inner thoughts and emotions which really did occur, and I know they did. But neither you nor I nor anyone else can provide documentary evidence of them. Still, I know that they occurred. And that they were a real occurence. But I can't prove it. Nor can anyone else.

That is the nature of spiritual things too. They are very much like thoughts. They occur, and the person who experiences them knows it when they occur, but there is absolutely no way of proving their existence to anyone else. You can only go by personal testimony, and people will believe it or not believe it generally according to their prior prejudices or beliefs about such matters.

And that's where any human being's experience of God or anything spiritual resides...strictly in a form of inner personal experience that can neither be proven or disproven.

Therefore, if there is a God, it would be downright silly to expect that God to show up and state that He, She or It agrees or doesn't agree with something someone else said. You can't get confirmation of an inner thought from an exterior source, and you shouldn't expect to.

So the people who are attempting to say that there is no God because they haven't seen anything to prove there is are attempting to do something write down something with a ballpoint pen on the air in their room. It's a complete non-sequitor. You cannot prove or disprove subjectivity, you can only prove or disprove objectivity. Nevertheless, subjectivity plays a real part in out lives.