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Thread #131011   Message #2953656
Posted By: theleveller
28-Jul-10 - 03:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: Is Monarchy Obsolete in the UK?
Subject: RE: BS: Is Monarchy Obsolete in the UK?
Very quickly:

"Opinion, bearing in mind: "This agreement has, at the beginning of each reign, been repeated by every succeeding Sovereign."."

That, of course, is in itself just your opinion. The statement from the website if totally fatuous - rather like saying that the sun agrees to rise in the east each morning. This agreement, like the Royal Assent, is a given and woe betide any monarchy who fails to give it.

The Crown Estate website also states that there is an 'assumption' of ownership. This is only on the sid eof the monarchy and is assumed becaause it has never been legally challenged. British history is a catalogue of conflict between the assumptions of the monarch and Parliament's determination to curb these. Charles l 'assumed' the divine right of kings but that did not stop Patliament condemning him as "tyrant, traitor, murderer and public enemy to the Commonwealth of England" and declaring that "the office of the king in this nation is unnecessary, burdensome and dangerous to the liberty, society and public interest of the people."

Moving quickly on:

"If the monarchy were to disappear tomorrow, the Crown Estate would continue to do what it has always done for nearly one thousand years provide income for the administration of the country."

Opinion. And why should 'republicans' want to oust the monarchy, yet keep 'The Crown'? "

I can't honestly believe you think that. How do you deduce that republicans want to keep The Crown? It's the 'Estate' part that is important. The Act of Parliament that abolished the monarchy would, i expect, clarify the situation and the Crown Estate would become the State Estate :).

"I suspect it would revert to the monarch - they aren't stupid.."

I would very much suspect otherwise. See above.

In the end, however, as I've said earlier, the finances are not the key issue - more important are the constitutional and democratic aspects.

Sorry to rush - have much work to do. Nice talking to you - have fun!